In this episode Mark welcomes relationship expert Thais Gibson to break down the six stages of relationships—from Dating and Honeymoon to Power Struggle, Rhythm, Devotion, and the Everlasting stage—and the exact rites of passage required to move through each. Together they expose why most couples stall (and split) in the power struggle, how to turn conflict into intimacy through vulnerability, needs-based communication, and trait integration, and why secure attachment isn’t a mystery—it’s a set of repeatable skills. You’ll learn how anxious partners can stop chasing, how avoidant partners can stop flaw-finding, and how both can build the habits that create a lasting “us.” If you’re ready to trade roller-coaster love for a relationship that’s rooted, resilient, and deeply satisfying, this conversation is your roadmap.

Thais Gibson is the co-founder of The Personal Development School, a best-selling author, podcast host, Ph.D. recipient, and a leading expert in personal development and attachment trauma. With over 13 certifications in modalities such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Hypnosis, and Somatic Experiencing, she spent nearly a decade in a high-demand client practice where a growing waitlist highlighted the need for more accessible tools for emotional healing. This inspired her to create The Personal Development School (“PDS”), which has since expanded into a global community of over 55,000 members across 145+ countries, supported by her extensive clinical experience and research.

—Instagram: @thepersonaldevelopmentschool 

—Website: https://university.personaldevelopmentschool.com/ 

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I’ve learned so much on this journey, especially the importance of consistency and speaking my truth, even when it’s challenging. So in this solo episode, I invite you to embrace discomfort, challenge your limits, and commit to your full potential. Change yourself, change the world.

Discover:

• The value of authenticity, speaking the truth with grace and kindness, and the power of honesty
• The idea of leaving a meaningful legacy, making a positive impact on future generations, and standing for one’s beliefs
• The importance of challenging the status quo and promoting dialogue to drive change
• The transformative potential of embracing discomfort, acknowledging growth through challenges, and rejecting victim mentality

Resources:

—Get My Breakup 5 Day Audio Series and Workbook: www.createthelove.com/breakupaudio

Get My Book! Liberated Love - Release Codependent Patterns and Create the Love You Desire: https://markgroves.com/book

—Explore My Courses: https://markgroves.com/courses

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In this episode I talk about what it really means to outgrow who you’ve been - that moment when the identity that once felt safe starts to feel like a cage. I share about my own transition, how easy it is to get trapped in who people think you are, and how terrifying it can be to let that version of you die. But that death is where freedom begins. This conversation is an invitation to look at the titles, labels, and stories that have kept you comfortable yet disconnected, and to remember that you already have the wisdom to guide yourself forward. I explore how to reclaim your energy from distraction, use your past as a map for your evolution, and walk yourself out of the prison of certainty and into the aliveness of possibility.

Resources:

—Get My Breakup 5 Day Audio Series and Workbook: www.createthelove.com/breakupaudio

Get My Book! Liberated Love - Release Codependent Patterns and Create the Love You Desire: https://markgroves.com/book

—Explore My Courses: https://markgroves.com/courses

Follow me and my work here:

—Subscribe to my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/markgrovestv 

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Have A Question?

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Drop us a note at [email protected] for sponsor product support, questions, comments, guest suggestions, or just to say hello!

This episode is sponsored by:

• Institute for Integrative Nutrition: Certified Health Coach Training: Use code MARKGROVES20 for 20% off ALL courses from IIN & Chopra at http://bit.ly/MARKIIN
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In this episode Mark sits down with Lacy Phillips, founder of To Be Magnetic and author of How to Manifest, for an inspiring conversation about how to bridge psychology, energy, and intentional living to create an authentic life. Lacy shares the truth about manifestation—why it’s not about blind optimism, but deep self-awareness and integration. Together they explore the role of technology in shaping our desires, the growing pull toward analog living, and how reclaiming sovereignty from collective conditioning leads to true empowerment. Lacy dives into how “tests from the universe” are actually invitations to embody our worth, and why following our intuitive pings is the key to living in alignment with our truest selves. 

Lacy Phillips is a global manifestation expert and the founder of To Be Magnetic—the #1

manifestation brand rooted in neuroscience. Her revolutionary method combines psychology,

neuroplasticity, and energetics to rewire limiting beliefs at the subconscious level. Through her

signature digital membership, The Pathway, she’s helped over 100k+ people, including

founders, mothers, artists, authors, podcasters, spiritual leaders, content creators, and even

celebrities alongside everyday seekers in over 118 countries.

• Pre-Order HOW TO MANIFEST by Lacy Phillips (with exercises by Jessica Gill) 
• Expanded on Youtube
• @tobemagnetic
• @Lacyannephillips

This episode is sponsored by:

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In this episode Mark sits down with Dr. Richard Schwartz, founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS), for a profound conversation about healing the parts of ourselves that carry pain, trauma, and protection. They dive into the power of “unburdening” — the process of releasing individual, ancestral, and collective wounds — and how doing so reconnects us to the self, the calm, compassionate center within us all. Dr. Schwartz breaks down the roles of our inner protectors, exiles, and firefighters, explaining how true healing happens when we stop exiling our pain and start listening to it with curiosity and love. Together, Mark and Richard explore how parts work bridges psychology and spirituality, why even our most destructive parts are rooted in protection, and how accessing the Self transforms not only our internal world but the collective one around us.

Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that de-pathologizes the multi-part personality. His IFS Institute offers training for professionals and the general public. He is currently on the faculty of Harvard Medical School, and has published five books, including No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model.

Links:

• website: https://ifs-institute.com/
• books: https://ifs-institute.com/store
• Pre-order the new book now

Sponsors:

• Institute for Integrative Nutrition: Certified Health Coach Training: Use code MARKGROVES20 for 20% off ALL courses from IIN & Chopra at http://bit.ly/MARKIIN
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Navigating a breakup? Grab my 5 day Breakup Audio Series www.createthelove.com/breakupaudio

Subscribe to Mark’s Substack to receive his weekly reflections and insights straight from his heart to your inbox. https://markgroves.substack.com/ 

Contact us at [email protected] for sponsor product support, questions, comments, or just to say hello!

In this episode Mark sits down with psychotherapist and author Joe Nucci to unpack the rise of psychobabble—how social media has turned mental health into bite-sized buzzwords that distort the truth about healing, growth, and relationships. They dive deep into the myths that dominate online conversations—like “your feelings are always valid,” “everyone’s a narcissist,” and “everything is ADHD”—and explore how oversimplified self-diagnosis and viral therapy language can actually keep us stuck instead of setting us free. Together, they challenge the culture of self-labeling, discuss how nuance and personal accountability are essential for real mental wellness, and offer a refreshing, grounded perspective on what it really means to heal in today’s hyper-digital world.

Joe Nucci, LPC, is a licensed psychotherapist, writer, and social media influencer. His content contextualizes mental health misinformation, pop-psychology facts and fallacies, and culturally misconstrued ideas. Joe’s work focuses on empowering individuals—whether or not they have abackground in psychology—so they can live a life with a greater sense of agency and self-awareness. 

Links:

• Instagram: @joenuccitherapy
• Website: www.joenuccitherapy.com

This episode is sponsored by:

• Cozy Earth: Use code MARK for 40% off sitewide at http://www.cozyearth.com
• Avocado Green Mattress: www.avocadogreenmattress.com

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In this episode I dive into what happens when life completely falls apart—when everything you thought was certain suddenly isn’t, and you’re left wondering who you are and where to go next. I explore the beauty and pain of disorientation, those moments when everything feels dismantled but are actually guiding you back home to yourself. This isn’t about fixing or forcing your way through the chaos—it’s about learning to sit in the space between, trusting that what’s breaking down is making space for what’s real. I’ll walk you through how to reclaim the parts of yourself you’ve left behind, rebuild trust in your own voice, and remember that sometimes the falling apart is actually the becoming.

Resources:

—Get My Breakup 5 Day Audio Series and Workbook: www.createthelove.com/breakupaudio

Get My Book! Liberated Love - Release Codependent Patterns and Create the Love You Desire: https://markgroves.com/book

—Explore My Courses: https://markgroves.com/courses

Follow me and my work here:

—Subscribe to my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/markgrovestv 

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Have A Question?

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If you want to dive deeper into Mark’s content, search through every episode, find specific topics we’ve covered, and ask him questions, go to his Dexa page: https://ask.markgroves.com

Drop us a note at [email protected] for sponsor product support, questions, comments, guest suggestions, or just to say hello!

This episode is sponsored by:

Cozy Earth: Use code MARK for 40% off sitewide at http://www.cozyearth.com

• Institute for Integrative Nutrition: Certified Health Coach Training: Use code MARKGROVES20 for 20% off ALL courses from IIN & Chopra at http://bit.ly/MARKIIN
• Mighty Networks: Go to http://www.markgroves.com/mightynetworks to learn how to create your own community!
• Avocado Green Mattress: www.avocadogreenmattress.com

In this episode I dive into the often-misunderstood process of forgiveness and letting go—what it truly takes, why it’s so elusive, and how to move beyond pain without abandoning yourself. I break down the traps that keep us stuck in resentment, the difference between oversharing and authentic vulnerability, and how grief and anger can become catalysts for growth rather than prisons of suffering. Through powerful insights, stories, and timeless wisdom, I explore how to transform wounds into wisdom, create closure without waiting for it, and trust that nothing meant for you will ever require you to betray who you are.

Resources:

—Get My Breakup 5 Day Audio Series and Workbook: www.createthelove.com/breakupaudio

Get My Book! Liberated Love - Release Codependent Patterns and Create the Love You Desire: https://markgroves.com/book

—Explore My Courses: https://markgroves.com/courses

Follow me and my work here:

—Subscribe to my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/markgrovestv 

—Subscribe to my Substack: https://markgroves.substack.com

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—Facebook - @createthelove: https://www.facebook.com/createthelove

Have A Question?

—Have a Question For Mark That You’d Like To Hear Answered on the Podcast? Leave us a Voice Note Here: https://www.speakpipe.com/TheMarkGrovesPodcast

If you want to dive deeper into Mark’s content, search through every episode, find specific topics we’ve covered, and ask him questions, go to his Dexa page: https://ask.markgroves.com

Drop us a note at [email protected] for sponsor product support, questions, comments, guest suggestions, or just to say hello!

This episode is sponsored by:

• Cozy Earth: Use code MARK for 40% off sitewide at http://www.cozyearth.com
• Avocado Green Mattress: www.avocadogreenmattress.com

In this episode I dive into the truth about authenticity—what it really means, why it’s so often compromised, and how the pull between belonging and self-expression shapes our lives. I unpack the ways codependency and people-pleasing keep us wearing masks, the cultural and relational pressures that silence our voices, and the cost of abandoning ourselves for acceptance. Through stories, research, and practical insights, I invite you to explore where you’ve been prioritizing connection over truth, and how to begin reintroducing yourself to the world with courage, boundaries, and authenticity that’s rooted in choice, not fear.

Resources:

—Get My Book! Liberated Love - Release Codependent Patterns and Create the Love You Desire: https://markgroves.com/book

—Explore My Courses: https://markgroves.com/courses

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Have A Question?

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Drop us a note at [email protected] for sponsor product support, questions, comments, guest suggestions, or just to say hello!

This episode is sponsored by:

—Institute for Integrative Nutrition: Certified Health Coach Training: Use code MARKGROVES20 for 20% off ALL courses from IIN & Chopra at http://bit.ly/MARKIIN

In this episode, Mark sits down with author and thought leader Bethany Webster for a powerful deep dive into the “mother wound” and how it unconsciously shapes our sense of self, relationships, and capacity to thrive. Bethany breaks down the four levels of the mother wound, how family dynamics and cultural conditioning intertwine, and why so many of us carry invisible patterns of self-abandonment, guilt, or people-pleasing. Through her own story and years of teaching, she reveals how confronting and healing these wounds can liberate us from inherited beliefs, create healthier boundaries, and unlock greater authenticity in love, work, and life. This is an eye-opening conversation on breaking cycles, reclaiming sovereignty, and learning to mother ourselves with compassion and truth.

Bethany Webster is considered a global expert on healing the Mother Wound. She is a writer, international speaker and transformational coach. Bethany started blogging in 2013 about the Mother Wound and quickly experienced worldwide demand for her work. Through blending research on intergenerational trauma, feminist theory, and psychology with her own personal story, Bethany's work is the result of decades of research and her own journey of healing. Bethany speaks, consults and mentors around the world sharing her growing body of work that is raising the standard of women’s leadership and personal development.

Links:

• Website: www.bethanywebster.com
• Book: Discovering the Inner Mother: A Guide to Healing the Mother Wound and Claiming your Personal Power
• Online course: https://www.bethanywebster.com/healing-mother-wound-course/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/themotherwound/
• Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/healingthemotherwound
• Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/innermother

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Contact us at [email protected] for sponsor product support, questions, comments, or just to say hello!

—This episode is sponsored by:

• Institute for Integrative Nutrition: Certified Health Coach Training: Use code MARKGROVES20 for 20% off ALL courses from IIN & Chopra at http://bit.ly/MARKIIN