Archive content finds new life on YouTube while broadcast TV is officially "a blip in history." Welcome to The Media Odyssey Podcast live from MIP London!

In this special live episode from MIP London, Evan Shapiro sits down with Martin Trickey, who runs Zoo 55, ITV Studios' digital distribution arm that launched just over a year ago. The conversation reveals how traditional broadcasters are finally waking up to the massive untapped value in their archives, how YouTube is television for older demographics as well as younger people, and why the broadcast era was just a temporary moment in human storytelling. 

Rather than defending the traditional TV model, Martin makes a compelling case for why broadcasters must radically transform or become irrelevant.  The episode is a reality check on how quickly the media landscape is changing, with 55% of the British population now millennials and younger who never developed traditional broadcast habits. Success now requires mastering social video alongside streaming not instead of it.

Key Takeaways:

1. Archive Content Unlocks New Value on YouTube 

ITV's Zoo 55 is finding massive value in archive content that was gathering dust on shelves. Old episodes of shows like Hell's Kitchen and River Monsters are discovering entirely new audiences on YouTube who never saw them during their original broadcast runs. This represents a significant new revenue stream from content that had no previous monetization path.

2. YouTube Audiences Span All Demographics, Not Just Young People 

The biggest demographic watching full episodes of Coronation Street on YouTube is 65+, and they're watching mostly on TV devices. Everybody is watching content on YouTube regardless of age. The assumption that it's only for younger audiences is false. Archive content attracts both younger viewers discovering shows for the first time and older viewers who are now consuming familiar content on YouTube instead of traditional broadcast.

3. Broadcast Television Was "A Blip in History" 

The monopolies that free-to-air broadcasters had in the 1960s-1980s are gone and never coming back. Peer-to-peer and social communication is how people have told stories since cave painting, and we've returned to that model. In 1985, shows on BBC One or ITV at 8pm guaranteed audiences because there was nothing else on. That era is over.

4. No Traditional Viewing Habits Means Streaming Will Not Fully Replace Broadcast

55% of the British population are millennials and younger who did not grow up with the same broadcast habits as their parents and grandparents. The time previous generations spent on television has been replaced by a combination of streaming AND social video—not just streaming. Younger generations actually watch less streaming than older generations. The idea that 100% of the TV audience will migrate to streaming alone is false.

5. Building Communities on Social Video Requires Significantly More Work 

Cutting through on social platforms is incredibly difficult compared to traditional broadcast. It requires great content plus discoverability work (thumbnails, titles, metadata), engagement with super fans and influencers, and constant optimization. Broadcasters must work far harder to build communities on social video than they ever did building TV audiences, but it's essential for survival.

6. 2026 Is the Year for Brand Direct Deals on YouTube

ITV expects 2026 to be the year they move significantly into brand direct deals beyond programmatic advertising. YouTube is expected to launch dynamic brand insertion in the second half of 2026, allowing creators to swap out sponsored segments without taking down and re-uploading entire videos. This will allow creators and partners to keep a larger share of revenue, and ITV plans to offer brands the ability to co-create content and distribute it across their network of social channels.

Thank you to Martin Trickey for joining the pod!

Martin Trickey - https://www.linkedin.com/in/martintrickey/

Zoo 55 - https://www.linkedin.com/company/zoo-55/

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• (00:00) - Welcome and Introductions

Netflix backs out of the bid for Warner Bros. Discovery (aka “Disco Bros”), leaving Paramount Global — sorry, “Nepomount” — as the likely merger partner. Welcome to another live earnings edition of The Media Odyssey.

In this episode, Evan Shapiro and Marion Ranchet break down the bombshell developments between Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount. Is this smart consolidation… or a true “Titanic meets the iceberg” moment?

Key Takeaways:

1. Netflix Walks Away — Political Pressure?

The timing raises eyebrows: Ted Sarandos’ White House visit came just days before Netflix exited the bid. Was there political pressure? Possibly. Regardless, the $2.8B breakup fee gives Netflix fresh optionality — whether that means acquiring Lionsgate, Xbox, Roku… or choosing disciplined restraint.

2. Two Sides of the Same Coin

Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount share strikingly similar business challenges: linear decline, streaming plateau, advertising pressure.

Can merging two structurally similar companies create real transformation? We predict significant layoffs and a battle over which brand identity survives — HBO or Paramount.

3. U.S. Political Risk in 2026

With midterm elections approaching, regulatory and political pressure could intensify. Evan suggests Attorneys General in film- and TV-heavy states may resist the merger to protect jobs and local economies. The political calendar could directly impact whether this deal closes.

4. European Market Fallout

Much like the Disney–Fox merger, Europe could see substantial layoffs and market recalibration — especially around sports rights.

Marion raises key questions:

• What happens to SkyShowtime (the Paramount–Comcast JV)?
• Could Max, Channel 5, and Pluto TV consolidate further?
• Does this create a stronger #3 player — or just a bigger struggling one?

5. The Bigger Issue: Streaming’s Plateau

While mega-mergers dominate headlines, the core business is slowing. Streaming growth is flattening, churn remains high, and by the end of the decade the model may resemble today’s cable ecosystem. Advertising helps — but it cannot fully offset structural decline.

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00:00 Introduction and Naming the Disaster
03:55 Warner Brothers Discovery's Performance
17:07 The Impact of Mergers on the Industry
22:43 The Future of Netflix and Strategic Acquisitions
27:08 Question #1 - Will Oracle become the backbone of WBD/Paramount?
28:22 The Impact of Sports Rights on Streaming
32:02 The State of Streaming in Europe
34:37 Challenges in Monetizing Streaming and FAST Services
37:56 Branding and Identity in Mergers
42:30 The Future of SkyShowtime
44:28 Placing Bets on the Merger
45:59 Upcoming Events; Marion and Evan at Stream TV Libson

Pinterest loses 14% in five days, Roku posts its first profitable year, and Netflix's market cap drops $200 billion. Welcome to The Media Odyssey Live!

In this live earnings coverage episode, Evan Shapiro and Marion Ranchet break down results from Pinterest, Roku, and TF1, while also discussing the ongoing Netflix-Warner Brothers Discover-Paramount saga. 

The conversation reveals how mobile-first platforms like Meta and TikTok are crushing traditional social media, how Roku finally achieved full-year profitability after pivoting from hardware to platform, and how European broadcasters are making deals with streamers to survive. Rather than celebrating growth, the hosts examine what's really driving (or killing) these businesses and how consolidation fears are freezing the entire media industry.

The episode is a reality check on how companies that seemed invincible just a few years ago are now struggling to compete, while the bidding war for Warner Brothers Discovery is creating dangerous industry-wide paralysis.

Key Takeaways:

1. Pinterest Is Losing the Social Media Battle Despite User Growth

Pinterest reported 16% revenue growth for 2025 and monthly average users up 12% year-over-year in Q4. However, their stock dropped 14% in five days following earnings. The company cannot close direct transactions because users shop on Pinterest then complete purchases on Amazon, Meta, or TikTok. 

Pinterest acquired TV Scientific, a CTV advertising company, to try to activate their shoppable e-commerce data on the big screen. The fundamental problem is that Pinterest is losing advertising share to Meta, TikTok, YouTube, and Amazon, particularly on mobile where those platforms dominate.

2. Roku Achieves First Full-Year Profitability After Platform Pivot

Roku posted their first profitable full calendar and fiscal year in 2025 after pivoting from hardware-first to platform-first in 2014. Their market valuation dropped from $50 billion (at $500 per stock) in 2021 to $13 billion today. Platform revenue is now over $4.5 billion compared to hardware revenue of half a billion, making hardware only 12-13% of the overall business. 

The Roku Channel now includes 70,000 AVOD titles, over 400 FAST channels, and 72 premium subscriptions (similar to Amazon Channels). Subscription revenue, not just advertising, drove them to profitability with a dual revenue stream model.

3. TF1 and Netflix Strike Partnership Deal for French Market

TF1, France's largest broadcaster, struck a deal with Netflix to bring their entire programming suite to Netflix users in France. The deal launches in June 2026, with TF1 handling ad sales for Netflix inventory. 

TF1's streaming revenue grew 36% (a combination of subscription and advertising). When combined, TF1 and Netflix become extremely attractive to advertisers by reaching both TF1's older broadcast audience and Netflix's younger streaming demographic. Across Europe, new players like Samsung TV Plus use TF1 as their ad sales house, while HBO Max uses Canal+, because selling advertising at scale requires local expertise.

4. Netflix's Warner Brothers Discovery Bid Creates Industry-Wide Freeze

Netflix's market capitalization has dropped $200 billion (approximately) since they started bidding on Warner Brothers Discovery. The bid would cost $82-84 billion and put Netflix $85 billion in debt. Ted Sarandos called it "an accelerator" and said "we don't need Warner Bros," despite the company previously saying they'd never do ads (now they do), never do sports (now they do), and that YouTube is "just for wasting time" (while signing Jake Paul, Ms. Rachel, and Sidemen). 

The bidding war has frozen Netflix, Paramount, and Warner Brothers Discovery in place—affecting hiring, programming purchases, and business development. Global film and TV purchases were down 15% last year, partly due to this freeze effect.

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• (00:00) - Welcome & Live Check-In (Oman, Ramadan, construction chaos)

Amazon invests $200 billion in AI, Roblox pays out $1 billion to creators, and Spotify's ad sales decline. Welcome to another episode of The Media Odyssey Live!

In this live earnings coverage episode, Evan Shapiro and Marion Ranchet break down results from Amazon, Roblox, Sony, and Spotify. The conversation reveals a massive AI spending race across Big Tech, the dramatic shifts happening in gaming away from traditional consoles, and the ongoing struggles of audio advertising. Rather than celebrating growth numbers, the hosts examine what the investments and losses actually mean for each company's long-term strategy and whether the spending will pay off.

The episode is a reality check on how companies are pouring unprecedented amounts into AI infrastructure while some core businesses struggle, and how the gaming industry is splitting between platform-first models and traditional console-dependent approaches.

Key Takeaways:

1. Amazon Hits $200 Billion in AI Investment With Mixed Results

Amazon announced a $200 billion AI infrastructure investment for next year, the highest among Big Tech companies covered in recent earnings (compared to Apple's $15 billion, Microsoft's over $100 billion, and Meta's close to $140 billion). 

2. AWS is growing, but the Stock Response is Muted

AWS grew 24% and advertising continued at 20%+ growth, but net income only grew 6%. Amazon reported 315 million Prime viewers, their first subscriber disclosure in two years. Amazon's stock response was muted despite strong AWS and e-commerce performance, signaling market concern about whether the massive AI investment will show returns.

3. Roblox Stands Apart from Console-Dependent Models

Sony and Microsoft's gaming divisions both had bad fourth quarters, with Sony reporting minus 4% in gaming sales. Meanwhile, Roblox had a massive year and fourth quarter, reporting 144 million daily active users (35% under 13, 38% ages 13-17, and 27% over 18).  Roblox paid out over $1 billion to creators in 2025 but has never been profitable. Most profitable gaming is either mobile or live gaming, and 65% of all in-game advertising is generated by Roblox. Microsoft's $70 billion Activision acquisition is 75% live gaming, not console business.

4. Spotify's Ad Sales Declined 4% Despite Subscription Growth

Spotify's ad sales were down 4% in Q4 year-over-year, despite Q4 being the best ad sales quarter of the year. However, subscription revenue grew 14% and Spotify has the least churnable subscription in all media.

5. Video Podcast Consumption is being Vital

Video podcast consumption grew over 90%. The number one podcasting platform on Earth is YouTube, with a billion people watching YouTube podcasts on TV every month. Overall, about a third of total podcast consumption is split between Spotify, Apple, and YouTube, with YouTube leading.

6. Netflix and Spotify Strike Video Podcast Deal

Spotify announced a deal with Netflix to distribute video podcasts, including The Ringer and Bill Simmons content. The deal makes Spotify's entire video strategy potentially break even or profitable immediately. However, the exclusivity nature of the deal means podcasts on Netflix cannot be on YouTube, which some view as shortsighted given YouTube's dominance in video podcasting. The deal reflects Netflix's attempt to become a daily touchpoint and steal the podcasting crown from YouTube.

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Catching Up

Google crushes expectations even as YouTube slows, and Disney names a CEO to distract from its numbers. Welcome to The Media Odyssey Live!

In this live earnings coverage episode, Evan Shapiro and Marion Ranchet break down Google and Alphabet’s Q4 2025 wins and Disney's less positive performance. The conversation reveals surprising shifts in where advertising dollars are flowing, with mobile and social platforms capturing growth that once went to traditional video platforms. Rather than celebrating wins, the hosts dig into what the numbers actually reveal about maturing products, shifting consumer behavior, and the growing challenge of competing across multiple devices and formats.

The episode is a reality check on how even dominant players like YouTube are facing headwinds, while free ad-supported platforms are quietly gaining massive ground against premium subscription services.

Key Takeaways:

1. Google Beat Expectations But YouTube Growth Is Slowing

Google beat expectations on both top and bottom line, with cloud revenue growing 48%. However, YouTube revenue growth in Q4 was less than 10%, missing expectations for the first time in recent memory. This signals YouTube is becoming a maturing product, with the majority of Q4 advertising upside going to TikTok and Meta instead. Despite the slowdown, YouTube's full-year revenue outpaced Netflix's total revenue, and Google now has the same number of subscribers across Premium, Music, and Red as Netflix has total subscribers.

2. Mobile and Social Are Outpacing TV in Ad Spending

A record $13 billion in midterm political advertising is coming in 2026, with the majority of growth going to mobile-first, targeted advertising on platforms like Instagram and TikTok rather than traditional TV or even Connected TV. The money that used to flow to cable is now moving to Instagram and TikTok, signaling that mobile and social will outpace even connected television growth in 2026. YouTube needs to refocus on mobile and shorts to compete, as their heavy focus on TV has left mobile vulnerable.

3. Disney's Streaming Strategy Faces Challenges 

Disney's revenue was up only 5% in Q4, with net income down 9% for the quarter. However, net income grew 140% year-over-year, driven entirely by streaming services bouncing back toward profitability. The sports business (ESPN) was not profitable in Q4, mostly because of rights fees, with only 1% revenue growth but a 23% drop in operating income. Disney is positioned to add vertical video to their streaming platform as a way to embrace social-first experiences and the creator economy.

4. FAST Surpassed Netflix in Q4 Engagement

Free Ad-supported TV platforms collectively surpassed Netflix in Q4 2025 television engagement in the United States according to Nielsen's Gauge. Tubi grew revenue 19% year-over-year and had its second profitable quarter, reaching 3% on the Gauge. Roku Channel hit 2.5%, and when combined with other FAST platforms not measured by Nielsen (like Samsung TV Plus), FAST collectively exceeded Netflix's share even with Netflix's massive December performance. This represents the biggest competitive threat to both YouTube and Netflix going forward.

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Greetings

Apple, Microsoft, and Meta — with a quick detour into Comcast — have all reported earnings, and we’re breaking it down. Welcome back to The Media Odyssey podcast. In this episode, Evan and Marion ask the big question: why did the market cheer some results and punish others, even when the numbers looked strong?

The conversation dives into iPhone surprises, AI spending anxiety, advertising dominance, and what all of this says about where big tech and media are headed next.

Key Takeaways:

1. Apple: iPhone to the Rescue (Again)
Apple posted a better-than-expected quarter, mostly thanks to strong iPhone demand — the first real year-over-year growth in four years. Much of that growth came from China, which raises questions about how repeatable it is. Services revenue crossed $100B annually, but growth is slowing, and iPhones still account for over half of Apple’s total revenue. Still cautious, Apple is taking a wait-and-see approach to AI, focusing on on-device features rather than building massive infrastructure. And finally we pose the question: with such a premium audience, why hasn’t Apple built a serious advertising business yet?

2. Microsoft: Great Numbers, Nervous Investors
Microsoft delivered strong results across the board, with cloud and AI continuing to power growth. Despite that, the stock dropped as investors worried about how much the company is spending on AI, especially through its OpenAI partnership. Copilot adoption is real, but expectations were even higher — and the market wanted faster proof. Gaming (including Activision Blizzard) barely got a mention, highlighting ongoing uncertainty about Microsoft’s role in the future of gaming. Bottom line, we found Microsoft is getting punished not for weak performance, but for investing too aggressively.

3. Meta: Ads Win, Spending Shrugs
Meta’s quarter was all about advertising strength — higher impressions and higher prices. Even though net income was down for the year, the stock jumped as investors bought into Meta’s AI vision. AI at Meta isn’t about selling tools — it’s about making ads smarter, products faster, and teams smaller. Unfortunately, Reality Labs continues to bleed cash, and the metaverse is quietly fading into the background. But with promises to leverage AI-driven efficiency (aka layoffs), Wall Street seems convinced that will boost margins down the line.

4. Comcast & Peacock: Scale Matters 
Comcast lost hundreds of thousands of broadband customers, a worrying sign for its core business. Peacock is still small, still losing money, and limited by its US-only strategy. Without global scale, the streaming math gets very hard — especially as content costs stay high

5. The Bigger Picture
Advertising is the growth story — subscriptions have hit a ceiling. A handful of tech giants now control the majority of global ad spend, reshaping the media economy. AI works best when it’s built into massive platforms, not sold as a standalone product. The market is rewarding clear AI narratives and punishing uncertainty — even when the fundamentals look strong.

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Overview of Earnings Reports

The Creator Economy has 1.5 million creators, billions in revenue, and… zero worker protections. Welcome back to The Media Odyssey Podcast!

In this episode, Evan Shapiro and Marion Ranchet sit down with Shira Lazar, founder of What's Trending and a pioneer in the creator economy. The conversation covers Shira's journey from early vlogger at CBS News to building a digital media brand covering internet culture, and dives deep into her current work on the Creator Bill of Rights and mental health advocacy for creators through her organization Creators 4 Mental Health. 

Rather than focusing on growth metrics or platform strategies, Shira, Marion, and Evan tackle the human side of content creation including the mental health challenges, lack of industry protections, and systemic issues facing the millions of people who make up the creator economy.

The episode is a reality check on how the creator economy, despite generating billions in revenue for platforms and brands, still lacks basic worker protections and the mental health support structures that exist in traditional industries.

Key Takeaways:

1. The Creator Economy Is a Real Industry That Lacks Basic Protections

There are 1.5 to 10 million creators in the US (compared to 83,000 steel workers) yet creators operate in what's described as the "Wild West" without established worker protections. The creator economy generates enormous revenue, with Meta alone generating more than all television on Earth, and Unilever putting half their marketing budget into creator partnerships. Despite this scale, creators lack the fundamental protections, unions, and support systems that exist in traditional industries.

2. Mental Health Crises in the Creator Economy Need Systemic Solutions

Creators face unique mental health challenges from constant platform algorithm changes, metrics obsession, isolation, and financial instability. While awareness of mental health issues exists, there's no clear infrastructure or accessible resources for creators to get help. The Creator Bill of Rights initiative aims to establish mental health support as a foundational element of the industry rather than an afterthought, making resources tangible and accessible.

3. The Industry Was Built by Accident, Not Design

Unlike traditional industries that were planned and structured over time, the creator economy emerged through happenstance without intentional design or worker protections built in. The automotive industry had headquarters, roads, and eventually unions, but the creator economy is asymmetrical with no central structure. This requires building frameworks from scratch, including state and federal level recognition, rather than trying to retrofit traditional models.

4. Corporate Media Faces Similar Mental Health Issues Without the Awareness

The mental health challenges aren't unique to creators, corporate media employees struggle with burnout, loneliness, and shame around mental health, but without the same level of awareness or conversation. In corporate environments, mental health struggles are often seen as a disgrace despite theoretical access to company resources. The creator economy has an advantage in that there's at least recognition that something is wrong and needs to be fixed, creating an opportunity to build support systems into the foundation of the industry.

Thank you Shira Lazar for joining the pod!

Shira Lazar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shiralazar/ 

What’s Trending: https://www.linkedin.com/company/what's-trending/

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Guest Introduction

Google officially beat Apple and HBO Max is conquering Europe. Welcome back to The Media Odyssey Podcast! 

In this episode, Evan Shapiro and Marion Ranchet focus on two media milestones that didn’t get the attention you expect: Google officially surpassing Apple in scale, and HBO Max’s long-awaited launch across key European markets. Rather than treating these as isolated news items, the conversation explains why both moments matter and what they reveal about platform economics, global strategy, and competitive positioning.

The episode is a reality check on how quickly the hierarchy is changing, and how even long-anticipated launches now arrive in a far more crowded, expensive, and competitive environment.

Key Takeaways: 

1. Google Has Officially Passed Apple in Size

Google, along with the rest of Alphabet, beat out Apple with a higher annual revenue and faster top-line growth. What once looked unthinkable now reflects Google’s dominance across advertising, platforms, and global scale.

Apple’s business remains strong, but it’s reliance on hardware and services tied closely to its ecosystem have kept growth down it is missing out on a core two thirds of consumers. 

2. HBO Max Is Finally Launching Across Europe

HBO Max’s rollout into major European markets, a move years in the making, finally began. The launch represents a major operational and branding milestone for Warner Bros. Discovery.

Timing is a strategic Risk for HBO Max, arriving in Europe after Netflix, Prime Video, and Disney+, making customer acquisition more difficult and more expensive than it would have been earlier. Launching now means competing in a market where consumer budgets are tighter and subscription fatigue is real.

3. Scale Is Now the Deciding Factor

Whether it’s Google surpassing Apple or HBO Max expanding internationally, the episode reinforces that scale is increasingly what determines who can compete effectively.

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Overview

Netflix’s earnings beat expectations, but the numbers reveal a business increasingly reliant on optics, pricing, and financial engineering rather than underlying engagement growth.

In this live earnings breakdown episode of The Media Odyssey Podcast, Evan Shapiro and Marion Ranchet analyze Netflix’s latest quarterly results, separating headline wins from structural concerns. 

While revenue, profit, and subscriber figures all came in strong, deeper engagement metrics tell a more cautious story. The conversation focuses on growth rates, viewing hours, ad revenue contribution, and the financial implications of Netflix’s proposed Warner Bros. Discovery acquisition.

The Numbers: 
 

1. Netflix Reported 325 Million Subscribers (After Saying It Would Stop)

Despite previously stating it would no longer report subscribers, Netflix disclosed a global total of 325M, reframing what likely ~23M net adds without explicitly saying so.

2. Revenue and Profit Growth Remain Strong

Netflix reported +15% revenue growth in Q4 and +16% for the full year, with net income up ~25% in Q4 and ~26% year over year, comfortably beating Wall Street expectations.

3. Engagement Growth Is Essentially Flat

Total viewing reached 191B hours annually, up only ~1B hours half-over-half. Average viewing now sits at roughly 1.7 hours per subscriber per day, down from ~2 hours a few years ago.

4. Netflix’s Share of Total TV Viewing Remains Under 10%

Even during an all-time high month driven by Christmas Day, Netflix accounted for ~9% of total TV usage per Nielsen Gauge data.

5. Advertising Generated ~$1.5B, Still Only ~3% of Revenue

Netflix disclosed $1.5B in ad revenue, representing roughly 2–3% of total revenue, with management signaling plans to double and eventually triple that figure.

6. Roughly 40% of New Subscribers Are on the Ad Tier

Third-party estimates suggest ~40% of recent subs are ad-supported, but Netflix provided no ARPU, churn, or engagement data tied to those users.

7. Guidance Was Lowered Despite the Earnings Beat

Netflix reduced forward guidance, contributing to a ~7% stock drop overnight, highlighting investor concern despite strong backward-looking results.

8. The Proposed Warner Bros. Deal Would Push Debt to ~$85B

If completed, Netflix would take on roughly $50–54B in new debt, bringing total obligations close to $85B, a key factor behind market skepticism.

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Welcome

CES isn’t about gadgets anymore, but who controls the interface between audiences, data, and distribution.

Welcome back to The Media Odyssey Podcast! From CES, Evan Shapiro and Alan Wolk, Co-Founder and Lead Analyst of TVREV, unpack what this year’s show revealed about the future of media, entertainment, and technology while expanding on their predictions for 2026. 

Beyond the hype of AI demos and hardware announcements, the conversation centers on power shifts: who owns how we get information, who controls discovery, and which companies are quietly positioning themselves as the new gatekeepers.

Rather than signaling a breakout moment, CES reinforces a familiar reality.  Platforms are consolidating influence, AI is moving into the background, and media companies face shrinking control over how audiences find and engage with content.

Key Takeaways:

1. Media Is Entering a Prolonged Era of “Feudal Fragmentation”

Alan predicts that the monoculture is gone for the foreseeable future, replaced by thousands of disconnected content bubbles with their own truths, celebrities, and norms. This fragmentation isn’t new, but it will deepen through the rest of the decade, making shared cultural moments increasingly rare.

2. There Is No Longer a Single Source of Truth and That Has Consequences

The loss of mass media gatekeepers means audiences now operate from entirely different realities. News can be fully ignored, expertise is routinely dismissed, and misinformation thrives because there is no longer a common reference point for facts.

3. The End of Expertise Is Both Dangerous and Liberating

Traditional experts and institutional authority are losing power, but this also enables creators and outsiders to build massive media businesses without permission. The upside is democratization, the downside is the erosion of trust in skill, craft, and knowledge.

4. Power in Media Is Decentralizing Away from Hollywood

Alan predicts that media power will continue to disperse geographically and structurally. New creator-led studios are emerging in Texas, Brazil, Nigeria, and beyond, attracting talent away from traditional Hollywood centers as production costs fall.

5. Niche Audiences Will Become the Foundation of Sustainable Media Businesses

The era of building new mega-brands is over. Instead, companies and creators will build profitable businesses around passionate, well-defined niche communities. Even if those audiences are invisible to the mainstream.

6. Discovery and Serendipity Are Breaking Down

Algorithmic feeds increasingly show audiences more of what they already like, making it harder for genuinely new ideas to surface. Alan predicts fewer breakout cultural movements and more recycling of familiar formats, sounds, and franchises.

7. Sports Remains the Last True Monoculture

Live sports still cut across bubbles and deliver shared, simultaneous experiences. Alan predicts sports will retain outsized importance for advertisers and platforms, even as niche sports slowly grow and fragment over time.

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• (00:00) - Introduction and Guest Introduction