In this bonus episode, Sally interviews Gary Jubelin, one of Australia's most respected detectives, about her mother's unsolved disappearance. They discuss the importance of connecting key people and events in her mother's final days. Sally also asks Gary for his take on the coroner's findings, tendencies in Rick Blum's behavior, and whether police should dig deeper into his past. 

Don't miss out on these fascinating insights and advice from one of Australia's top detectives. Listen to the full episode now!

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In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally and Joni arrive in Amsterdam, following in Marion’s footsteps through rain-soaked streets, smoky hotel rooms, and winding tram rides. With one of them unexpectedly sidelined, the other takes on the city solo—navigating hidden corners, historic museums, and cryptic conversations in search of answers. What unfolds is a mix of emotion, determination, and discovery in a city that holds more than just memories.

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After leaving Japan with even more questions, Sal and Joni land in London.
Their first stop is the British Library, and then it's off to the Sphinx to try to place Marion—and possibly Rick Blum—in the same location back in 1997.

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One of the last notes Sally received from her mum was written on hotel notepaper from a room at the Hotel Nikko Narita in Japan.

In this episode, Sally and Joni travel there to uncover answers: did her mum ever stay at this hotel? Did she get married here? And what immigration records might finally unlock the secret of Marion’s disappearance?

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In this episode, Sally and the team join Search Dogs Sydney at two different locations in New South Wales, following up on leads that have emerged over the past few years. You can help Search Dogs Sydney continue their incredible work for people like Sally—who are living with the pain of ambiguous loss—by visiting https://searchdogssydney.org/ and making a donation.

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In this episode, Sal and Joni share the frustration of trying to move forward after the coronial verdict. For every step ahead, they’re pushed two steps back. Tune in to hear about the red tape, the blunders, the nightmares, the lack of empathy—and, finally, the breakthrough.

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On 29 February 2024, the coroner delivered her findings into the disappearance of Marion Barter, Sally’s mum. After almost 27 years, Sally was left with more questions than answers—questions she was determined to resolve. In this episode, hear what unfolded in the aftermath of the inquest and discover what comes next.

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Before you listen to the first episode of The Missing Matter, hear how the story has unfolded. In this bonus episode you can catch up on the story of missing person Marion Barter and her daughter Sally's decades-long journey to find out what happened to her mum, who disappeared in 1997. 

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Just when you thought the story was over, the questions only deepen. Hosted by Sally Leydon - Marion’s daughter and the voice you know from The Lady Vanishes - The Missing Matter picks up the trail after the March 2024 coronial findings. With over 22 million downloads behind it, this fan-funded follow-up launches on its own new feed, ready to chart a fresh journey into the unknown.

Join Sally and her investigative team as they:

• Revisit key locations from Australia to Europe, chasing every lead
• Deploy scent-tracking dogs in the hunt for Marion’s final resting place
• Travel worldwide—from Japan and London to Amsterdam, Brussels, Luxembourg and Lille
• Reflect on the coronial findings, the excitement of live events, and the planning stages of an epic research trip
  
  

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