For more than 25 years, Sally Leydon has been waiting for answers about her missing mum, Marion Barter.

In Season 2, Sal steps beyond her own story to speak with other families enduring the same unthinkable reality—the ambiguous loss of a loved one who has vanished without explanation.

These are raw, intimate conversations about hope that refuses to die, grief that never finds closure, and the strength it takes to live in the in-between. 

Episode 1 for Season 2 is out Monday, August 18th. 

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Sally and Joni hit the road to northern New South Wales, knocking on doors, and coming face to face with people who just might hold missing pieces of the puzzle. Along the way, Sally unveils the next chapter for The Missing Matter — an ambitious new direction that will open up the podcast to other families of the missing, giving their stories a voice and their loved ones a platform.

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In this final episode of this series, Sally and Joni follow a curious lead about a passport found in Tasmania that belonged to the former owner of a house Rick Blum lived in and they journey to Rye, Tonbridge Wells and Burwash

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Sally and Joni arrive in Lille, France, hoping to uncover long-buried records. But instead of answers, they find closed police stations, sealed archives, and endless red tape. Could one small detail still hold the key?

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In this bonus episode, Sally interviews Gary Jubelin, one of Australia's most respected detectives, about her mother's unsolved disappearance. They discuss the importance of connecting key people and events in her mother's final days. Sally also asks Gary for his take on the coroner's findings, tendencies in Rick Blum's behavior, and whether police should dig deeper into his past. 

Don't miss out on these fascinating insights and advice from one of Australia's top detectives. Listen to the full episode now!

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In Luxembourg, Sally and Joni set out to meet Monique Cornelius — a key witness in Marion Barter’s case — but instead stumble on a detail that stops them in their tracks:  As they trace old addresses, explore Luxembourg’s hidden banking secrets, and speak with locals in quiet villages, more strange coincidences emerge. 

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Sally and Joni head to Brussels on a mission to follow one of the strangest leads in the case: a mysterious coin cabinet inside Belgium’s Royal Library. As they dig through archives, flea markets, and fragile connections to Rick Blum’s past, they begin to uncover more about his aliases, his dealings, and possible links to stolen coins and foreign bank accounts. But a visit with one of his former victims — and a quiet moment of compassion — reminds them why they’re really here.

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In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally and Joni arrive in Amsterdam, following in Marion’s footsteps through rain-soaked streets, smoky hotel rooms, and winding tram rides. With one of them unexpectedly sidelined, the other takes on the city solo—navigating hidden corners, historic museums, and cryptic conversations in search of answers. What unfolds is a mix of emotion, determination, and discovery in a city that holds more than just memories.

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After leaving Japan with even more questions, Sal and Joni land in London.
Their first stop is the British Library, and then it's off to the Sphinx to try to place Marion—and possibly Rick Blum—in the same location back in 1997.

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One of the last notes Sally received from her mum was written on hotel notepaper from a room at the Hotel Nikko Narita in Japan.

In this episode, Sally and Joni travel there to uncover answers: did her mum ever stay at this hotel? Did she get married here? And what immigration records might finally unlock the secret of Marion’s disappearance?

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