Robert F Kennedy Jr. - President Trump's pick as health secretary - begins his confirmation hearings today. He's the man who coined the phrase 'Make America Healthy Again', but with a track record of conspiracy-led and anti-vaxx views, Washington has looked at his nomination with alarm. Still, his fight against Big Pharma and Big Food has been welcomed by an interesting cohort: a band of women calling themselves ‘crunchy moms.’

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Guest: Josie Ensor

Host: Luke Jones

Producer: Taryn Siegel.

Further reading: The ‘crunchy mom’ influencers embracing Maha

Further listening: Meet Robert Kennedy Jr: The US election wild card https://pod.fo/e/1ff482

Clips: Shawn Ryan Show podcast, ABC News, Fox News, TikTok/@momsacrossamerica, TikTok/@LivingwithBecca, Lex Fridman podcast, New York Post, CBS News, Club Random with Bill Maher, Joe Rogan Experience.

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