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This week, Tobias Judin from Norway's data protection regulator, the Datatilsynet (and EDPB representative), joins host Alan Chapell to talk about trust, (mis)aligned incentives, and consent in the European ads marketplace. We go deep on the challenges around pay or consent models for digital media as the EDPB plans to issue guidance for the larger publishing industry. Will pay or consent save the publishing industry - or become a drag on data protection law?
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Data Protection in Europe
01:18 Understanding the Role of the EDPB
04:42 Data Protection as a Competitive Advantage
08:41 The Challenges of Consent Mechanisms
11:54 Proportionality in Data Processing
16:42 The Future of Behavioral Advertising
21:53 The Concept of Pay for Consent
26:58 The Role of Size and Scale in Data Protection
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This week, host Alan Chapell is joined by Daniel Hanley of the Open Markets Institute as they attempt to make legal sense of Judge Mehta's September 2, 2025, decision in the Google Search Antitrust case. In other words, they outline "WHY" the Google decision is legally problematic.
Judge Mehta’s remedies ruling left major loopholes for Google.
Judicial caution and AI narratives diluted strong enforcement.
DOJ missed chances to highlight Google’s credibility problems.
Structural remedies were avoided despite clear legal precedent.
Publishers and competitors remain vulnerable under weak remedies.
00:01 Setting the Stage: Google’s regulatory storm and Mehta’s decision.
01:30 From Liability to Remedies: Strong liability ruling vs. weak remedies.
04:20 Why the Pullback?: Judicial caution and Google’s AI framing.
12:30 Legal Inconsistencies: Contradictory remedies undermine competition.
25:10 Appeals and Outlook: Next steps for Google, DOJ, and the states.
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Cobun Zweifel-Keegan joins host Alan Chapell to discuss key themes around U.S. state efforts to enforce on privacy AI and consumer protection. We talk about regulatory tension between the federal and state governments, the key areas of focus at the state level and the impact of state enforcement. We also riff a bit on Alan's recent Substack article comparing Spotify's Panama Playlists with the 1987 events leading up to the Video Privacy Protection Act - https://chapell.substack.com/p/why-congress-will-pass-a-privacy.
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Alan Chapell is joined by Justin Evan's where they discuss his book: The Little Book of Data. While designed for business teams, the book (and the podcast) also lights a path that can be helpful to the legal and regulatory folks. Our conversation also makes broader points about the creative process and how to stay relevant in your career by remaining curious.
Check out the Little Book of Data at https://www.harpercollinsleadership.com/9781400248353/the-little-book-of-data/
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In this episode, Alan is joined by Shoshana Wodinsky, veteran journalist in the ads space turned tech expert for the Federal Trade Commission. Shoshana offers an unfiltered view of how things sometimes function at the Commission - and shares some insights on how recent FTC policies impact the ads space.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Privacy and Regulation
03:08 The Role of the FTC in Privacy Standards
05:43 Lina Khan's Impact on Consumer Protection
08:53 Navigating Between Technology and Economics
11:33 The Challenges of Bureaucracy in Regulation
14:45 Investigating Bias in Advertising
17:30 The Complexity of Legal Theories
20:16 The Nature of FTC Investigations
23:16 The Balance of Ideology in the FTC
26:32 The Future of Privacy Regulation
29:29 Conclusion and Reflections on FTC Dynamics
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In this episode, Alan discusses Contextual Integrity as applied to the ad space with Professor Helen Nissenbaum. They go deep into profiling and the use of PETs. Alan encourages listeners to check out some of Helen's writing at https://nissenbaum.tech.cornell.edu/main_cv.html#pub
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Kamyl Bazbaz and Joseph Jerome from DuckDuckGo join Alan to discuss the role of the browser, the intersection between privacy and competition and how DuckDuckGo differentiates itself within the craziness of larger ads space.
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Ari Paparo and Alan Chapell discuss Ari's new book Yield: How Google Bought, Built, and Bullied its Way to Advertising Dominance. They also talk about the potential impact of the fallout of Google's antitrust trials on the marketplace. And Ari provides some insights as to why it's difficult for privacy and regulatory issues to make their way into the C-suite.
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Megan Gray joins host Alan Chapell for a discussion of the various remedies being proposed in the Google Search Antitrust Trial with the DOJ as we head towards Judge Mehta's decision in that case later this summer.
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The Meta antitrust trial has been undercovered with in the ads space. Host Alan Chapell brings antitrust litigator Brendan Benedict on to get a sense of the core arguments of both the FTC and Meta and make some predictions on how this case will play out.
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