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In this debrief episode Mike and Justin recap the interview they did with Tom Brown's mother, Penny Meek. Join us as we wrap up the Tom Brown case.

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In this debrief episode, Justin and Mike sit down to discuss the Tom Brown case. There is a lot of information in this case and a lot of twist and turns to get through. This is probably the most bizarre case we have done to date, but we are far from finished with it. Check it out!!!

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Thomas Kelly "Tom" Brown was an 18-year-old senior at Canadian High School when he went missing on the morning of November 23, 2016. What happened to Tom and who is responsible? All these years later we still have so many unanswered questions. We are going to try and break down this mystery on The Murder Project.

Sources for this episode include:
Wikipedia - For dates and other information
Tom Brown's Body (arcgis.com)
Tom Brown's Body, a Podcast by Skip Hollandsworth – Texas Monthly
thomas brown – The Unfound Podcast Channel

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In this episode of the debrief Justin and Mike discuss the case of Jerry Michael Williams. We get into the details about how an affair turned into murder. We also break down what went wrong and how what seems like a perfect crime was not so perfect.

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In this week's episode we are looking at the case involving Jerry Michael Willimas or Mike as he was known to his friends. Mike went missing after he ran out for a quick duck hunting trip. He as scheduled back early in the day to go on a trip with his wife Denise, but he never returned. What happened to Mike? Did he go missing or is there something more sinister at hand? 

Sources for this episode include:
Wikipedia - The Murder of Jerry Michael Williams for dates and other information.

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In this episode Justin and Mike break down the Julius Jones case. What we need in this case is the full evidence. We need answers from the District Attorney's Office. We need to know what happened. If Julius Jones is innocent, which there is a lot a play, where is justice?

Sources for this episode include:
July 3, 2016 article by [email protected] 

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In this episode I will go through and do my best to discuss the ins and outs of Julius Jones narrowly escaping death row and the murder of Paul Howell. There is a lot of information and theories that go into this one. Because Jones claims that not all evidence was included in his original trial, mainly his alibi, its hard to go back 20+ years to tie it all together.  I believe his best defense at this point is a corrupt DA and a  tainted jury. There are multiple stories that play out in this case and some of them are happening simultaneously and that is another reason I believe this is a hard one. It kind of makes it difficult to follow along but I think it is a story that need to be told. 

Sources for this episode include:
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4075575/paul-howell-murder-explainer/
https://innoceneproject.org/julius-jones-death-row-oklahoma-what-to-know/
https://medium.com/@freepaperspodcast/the-terrifying-case-of-julius-jones-878fec81e50f

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In this debrief episode Justin and Mike breakdown the case of Ryan Waller and Heather Quan. We discuss the details of the case as well as why certain parts of the investigation went the way they did. Its defiantly a hard case to take in and the ending is the hardest part.

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This case has a lot of twists and turns. The police show up at Ryan Waller's apartment to conduct a welfare check on him and his girlfriend Heather Quan. When they arrive, Ryan looks like he has been beaten up and Heather is found  on the couch, dead. Ryan acts like he doesn't know what happen and acts like he barely knows Heather. He gives several different accounts to police detectives and leaves everyone involved confused. Is Ryan trying to mislead police, or is there more to the story. And trust me, there always is...

Sources for this episode include:
Some dates and info from a reddit discussion - Ryan Waller - A Murder Investigation Gone Terribly Wrong.

https://medium.com/crimebeat/when-the-suspect-is-a-victim-f4a01da6999

YouTube link:
The Haunting Case of Ryan Waller (JCS Inspired) - YouTube 

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We have new intro music for the 2 Not Cops episodes. In episode 30 we are going to be talking about reports, domestic violence, and missing persons/runaways. We have some stories to go with each topic and also some laughs. Check us out on social media or send us a email in you have any questions you would like an answer to on the next 2 Not Cops episode. [email protected]

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