Journalist Helen Lewis of The Atlantic joins Ravi to dive into her new piece, "The ‘Mainstream Media’ Has Already Lost," as they explore the shifting media landscape and its implications for politics. They discuss the rise of independent media, its challenges to traditional outlets, and the complex role of podcasts and influencers in shaping public opinion. Helen offers insights into the evolving relationship between media and political campaigns, including the stark contrasts in how candidates engage with audiences. Together, they unpack the ethical dilemmas and societal impacts of this new media era and ponder what the media's role in democracy will be moving forward.

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