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The New Scene Presents - That's Fair with Keith & Nathaniel. A new podcast exclusive to our Patreon subscribers. "That's Fair" features Keith M. (The New Scene Podcast / Memory Entry) and Nathaniel Shannon (Photographer / Author / Documentarian) having weekly (or as close as we can get) conversations about the more personal aspects of life, music, culture, society and topics submitted by members of our community.
Episode 01: You Can't Fight Against Everything All of The Time
Keith and Nathaniel discuss our recent job layoffs, stepping into the world of a life as a struggling artist, Turnstile's recent Grammy win, Nathaniel's disdain for Grammys conversations, hardcore in the mainstream, food preferences, our rejection of The Beatles and Star Wars, making media your identity, the Super Bowl and more.
Keith welcomes Spencer Chamberlain back to the show and we discuss life during and after the pandemic, the long road to self discovery, the art of making a full length album, the making of Underoath's latest LP "The Place After This One", their recent anniversary tour for their classic 2004 LP "They're Only Chasing Safety" and Spencer's reflections on some of the band's discography. We also discuss Spencer's band SLO/TIDE, the difficult rollout of their debut LP "Too Much Weight", their 2025 LP "The Blur", AI and the future of music, navigating band tensions and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 4:06
Keith welcomes Jacob Bannon back to the show and we discuss growing up split between Andover and Boston MA, discovering independent music through skateboarding and friends, early show going experiences at the Red Barn, and the ups and downs of the life of an independent artist. We also discuss the new Converge LP "Love Is Not Enough", the central theme behind the record, a deep dive on the writing and creative process for the record, extreme vocal methodology and the toll it takes on the body, the recent "Saddest Day Fest" curated by Converge, Jake's other band Umbra Vitae and his lyrical process for the band, what's new at Deathwish Inc and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 3:02
Keith sits down with Anthony Roman to discuss growing up on Long Island, Anthony's early history with music, the formation of Garden Variety, early inspiration they found in the Replacements and other bands, stories from the road and the scene at the time, the band's final LP "Knocking The Skill Level" and tension at the time that led to the end of the band. We also discuss the formation of Radio 4, the different approach Anthony wanted to take with this band, their history and the new burgeoning rock scene in New York City in the early 2000's, our mutual love of classic screamo bands, what's next for Garden Variety and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 3:11
Keith sits down with Dan Thomson to discuss growing up in Ottawa, discovering the local scene, early inspiration from the band Moneen, the formation and history of Sparrows and the end of the band in the wake of the pandemic. We also discuss the formation of Lowheaven, the recording of their debut EP and their new LP "Ritual Decay", the band's creative process, signing with MNRK Records, what's next for Lowheaven and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 3:14
Keith sits down with Arthur Shepherd to discuss growing up in Long Island, its developing scene in the 90's, the formation of Mind Over Matter, band influences, some of their history and leaving to form World's Fastest Car with Walter Schreifels. We also discuss the history of Errotype:11, Arty's band Instruction, their major label experience on Geffen Records, the formation of Beinn, the making of their debut LP "Perpetual Architecture", the founding of the legendary Saint Vitus Bar, the ups and downs of running the venue over the years, musings on the music industry and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 2:46
Keith sits down with Jordan Olds to discuss growing up in Denver, discovering the local scene, how a record store clerk turned Jordan onto "real" hardcore, moving to New York City to attend college and Jordan's early pursuits in film and stand up comedy that led to the creation of Two Minutes To Late Night. We also discuss the history of Two Minutes to Late Night, their cover songs that became popular during the pandemic, some backlash Jordan received from passionate Ink & Dagger fans for his cover of "The Road To Hell", Jordan's new band Blood Vulture, the making of their debut LP "Die Close" which was inspired by Bram Stoker's "Dracula" and other vampire media, their recent tour with Gwar and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 3:13
Keith sits down with Jami Morgan to discuss growing up in Pittsburgh, getting involved in the local scene, the formation of Code Orange, signing with Deathwish Inc. for the release of their debut LP "Love is Love // Return to Dust", the band's creative process, their rise after the release of "I Am King" and their Grammy nominated 2018 LP "Forever", the making of their 2023 LP "The Above", the band's current hiatus and how Jami adjusted after the hiatus. We also discuss the formation of Nowhere2Run, the different artistic pursuits of the project including artist collaborations, film soundtracks, original music and touring blood raves.
Intro - 0:00 - 2:57
Keith shares The New Scene's Top Records of 2025 and we welcome Harper Boyhtari back to the show to discuss the past year, seasonal depression, physical fitness, getting older, Greet Death's 2025 LP "Die In Love" (our pick for top record of 2025), album influences, some of the writing process, Greet Death's 2025 tours and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 1:56
Keith welcomes Chris Higdon back to the show and we discuss Elliott's history, the release of their 2000 LP "False Cathedrals", the circumstances within the band that led to a new lineup and the release of their 2003 LP "A Song In The Air", their return in 2022 after almost 20 years of inactivity, how they prepared for the shows, vocal warm up routines and Elliott's most recent tour. We also discuss Chris's new band Mirrorless, the recording of their debut self-titled EP, their recent tour with Shiner, band mechanics in the modern age and more.
Intro - 0:00 - 4:15
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