The gang plays a little game: What are the odds Trump a) Becomes president, b) Goes to jail, or c) Neither? Let us know what you think the odds are in the comments!

Plus, another ignorant country song storms the charts, and Trump apparently DM'ed a lot of people on the app formerly known as Twitter.

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Ever wonder how homelessness has gotten so bad in America? And why there appears to be no successful efforts to solve it? The Atlantic's Jerusalem Demsas joins Tim and JVL to answer every question they have about this massive problem. It's a truly in-depth discussion you won't want to miss!

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Sarah and JVL talk about the politics of Joe Biden’s Hunter problem and the game theory on whether or not Ron DeSantis should stay in the race.

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Tim recounts his trip to Iowa to watch GOP presidential candidates make their weak bids for the nomination over Trump, Including Ron DeSantis, who just replaced his campaign manager. And the so-called "pro-women's sports integrity" conservatives are relishing the U.S. women's soccer team getting knock out of the World Cup. 

Plus, Ohio shuts down GOP attempts to make constitutional amendments (abortion rights) harder, and Sarah gives updates on what her focus groups think of "on the rise" Tim Scott.

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Country artist Amanda Shires joins Tim to discuss Nashville politics, abortion (including her life threatening ectopic pregnancy), being a liberal singer in a conservative genre, starting the all-female country group The Highwomen and more!

Plus, Tim gives his thoughts on the latest arraignment of former president Donald Trump.

Find Amanda's tour dates here: https://amandashiresmusic.com/

Loving You: https://atorecords-ffm.com/lovingyou

Highwomen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D-6nklMMbM

Summertime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aW1a4fM8X0

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Sarah and JVL talk about the latest arraignment.

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It's the latest indictment of former President Donald Trump, this time on the most dangerous charges yet: 2020 election interference. What will this mean for the 2024 race? What are the worst defenses of Trump's actions? Will Trump be put on trial during the general election? The gang breaks down all of this and more on today's The Next Level!

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Ron Filipkowski joins Tim to talk his journey from lawyer to never-Trump political commentator. Together, they analyze the MAGA transformation of the party they once called home, lambast Ron DeSantis' attempts to peel off Trump supporters, and explain how he balances his day job with his constant tweets on conservative crazies.

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Sarah and JVL talk about Jack Smith’s superseding indictment, Hunter Biden not getting pardoned, Sarah’s new campaign, and Barbenheimer. It’s a pretty good show this week.

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DeSantis attempts to reboot his campaign with by firing a third of his staff, one of whom apparently made videos with Nazi symbolism. Plus, Kevin McCarthy teases an impeachment inquiry of President Biden, progressives turn on AOC, and a bizarre conservative ad makes it way online.

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