In this episode, we dive into the behind the words of my NEW book 'That's Not What This Book is About' - available July 1, 2025.  My Uncle Ray and I sit down to have a conversation about the chapter 'Draw an Oval' - where we discuss art, teaching and where my inspiration comes from.  You want an honest and powerful conversation about teaching - this is it.

That's Not What This Book Is About  - Joanna Johnson
Order it on July 1, 2025 at unlearn16.com