Some of Oregon's public land features obsolete fencing that's damaged and harmful to animals. The Oregon Natural Desert Association has been working on removing fencing from public grounds for years. In 2012, the association completed an effort to remove barbed wire fencing from the Hart Mountain National Antelope Refuge in Lakeview. Since then, the organization has continued removal efforts in the state and also works on building and retrofitting fencing to protect wildlife. The organization has partnered with the Bureau of Land Management on some of this work. Lace Thornberg is the communications manager at the association and Kate Yates is a wildlife biologist for BLM. They join us with details.