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The idea that manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas or across borders to other countries is a frequent explanation from both Republicans and Democrats about why the American middle class has been hollowed out.
But it's a convenient half-truth. The other side we don't talk about is the other kind of offshoring, from the shores of the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico.
Grant talks to Middlebury College Associate Professor Gary Winslett, whose new article for the Washington Post is all about this other offshoring and why we should be talking more about it. Their conversation is a deep dive into why manufacturing left the Midwest for the South, how the new talk of Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson's Abundance mindset fits into all this, and whether the leaders of both parties are just too old to see a way forward.
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Manufacturing is thriving in the South. Here's why neither party can admit it.
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The idea that manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas or across borders to other countries is a frequent explanation from both Republicans and Democrats about why the American middle class has been hollowed out.
But it's a convenient half-truth. The other side we don't talk about is the other kind of offshoring, from the shores of the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico.
Grant talks to Middlebury College Associate Professor Gary Winslett, whose new article for the Washington Post is all about this other offshoring and why we should be talking more about it. Their conversation is a deep dive into why manufacturing left the Midwest for the South, how the new talk of Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson's Abundance mindset fits into all this, and whether the leaders of both parties are just too old to see a way forward.
LINKS:
Manufacturing is thriving in the South. Here's why neither party can admit it.
Support the show
Follow along on social media
X: @mimsnewspod
Instagram: @mimsnewspod
TikTok: @mimsnewspod
Substack: mimsnewspod.substack.com
YouTube: youtube.com/@MIMSnewspod
Bluesky: Granthermes.bsky.social
Follow Grant:
X: @GrantHermes
Insta/TikTok: GrantHermesTV
SPONSORS AND ADS:
Our listeners are smart, loyal, and tuned in — and your brand could be too.
Let’s work together. For sponsorships and custom ad spots, reach out to [email protected]

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