The Pawsitive Post in Conversation by Companion Animal Psychology

Leave us a voicemail!

In this special episode, Zazie and Kristi are joined by some of the most popular guests from previous episodes to chat about all things animal behaviour, including dogs, cats, ants, penguins, and crows.

We talk about:

• with Jo Wimpenny, PhD, author of Aesop's Animals, we talk about The Ant and the Grasshopper and how we know whether or not animals can plan ahead--plus we get exciting news about her next book
• Zazie and Kristi chat about their highlights of the year
• with Marc Bekoff, PhD, author of The Emotional Lives of Animals (and many other books) we talk about ethology, his research with penguins, and whether animals have rituals
• Zazie and Kristi chat about Holiday rituals
• with Erica Beckwith CTC of A Matter of Manners Dog Training, we talk about how to get cute Holiday photos of your pets
• and finally we share which books we've been reading

The full show notes are available on the Companion Animal Psychology website: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/

Previous episodes with these guests:

• Animal minds and our favourite fables with Jo Wimpenny , PhD https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/14597289
• Canine emotions and perceptions with Marc Bekoff PhD, Zazie Todd PhD, and Cat Warren at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16276537
• Animal emotions with Marc Bekoff, PhD, at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17148973
• The benefits of tricks training for dogs and cats with Erica Beckwith https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/12793661

Also mentioned in this episode:

• Preorder Beauty of the Beasts by Jo Wimpenny https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/beauty-of-the-beasts-9781399417617/
• Ask Me Anything about Fearful and Reactive Dogs https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/18168422
• Wild Rituals by Caitlin O'Connell
• Jane Goodall
• Erica Beckwith's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/amatterofmannersdogtraining/

The books we chose are:

• A Woman Among Wolves by Diane K Boyd
• 4 Days a Week by Juliet B Schor
• The Passengers on the Hankyu Line by Hiro Arikawa trans. Allison Markin Powell
• Dare I Say It by Naomi Watts

Learn more about:

Dr. Jo Wimpenny https://jowimpenny.com/ 

Dr. Marc Bekoff https://marcbekoff.com/

Erica Beckwith CTC https://www.amatterofmannersdogtraining.com/

Kristi Benson CTC https://www.kristibenson.com/

Zazie Todd, PhD https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/ (This is also where you'll find full show notes and a transcript).

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

Zazie and Kristi are joined by Prof. Carri Westgarth to answer your questions about dog bites, how to avoid getting bitten by a dog, and what to do if you have been bitten by a dog.

We talked about:

• Why dogs bite
• How to use management to keep people safe from dogs
• How to keep children safe from dog bites
• What to do if a loose dog charges you
• How to regain trust if your own dog has bitten you
• The difference between predatory behaviour and fear aggression
• The systemic factors that can make a difference to the prevalence of dog bites, and why education is only part of the answer
• Why Breed Specific Legislation isn't the solution to dog bites
• And more!

Also mentioned in this episode:

• Dr. Sophia Yin's video with loose dogs (correction: it was in Australia) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhm36dDFrk4
• The Care for Reactive Dogs website https://careforreactivedogs.com/
• Zazie's email list. Sign up here: https://companionanimalpsychology.kit.com/a88e8d1a2a

Books by Prof. Carri Westgarth:

• The Happy Dog Owner
• Dog Bites: A Multidisciplinary Perspective (co-edited with Daniel Mills)

Books by Zazie Todd PhD:

• Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy
• Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog

Professor Carri Westgarth is Chair in Human-Animal Interaction at the University of Liverpool with a passion for understanding the relationships we have with our pets. With a background in animal behaviour and dog training she has trained in veterinary epidemiology and human public health. Her research interests focus on the implications of dog ownership for human health and wellbeing, but also how owner management of their dogs can impact dog welfare. Both quantitative and qualitative research methods are used to tackle her primary research questions of how to improve population health through the promotion of dog walking, and how to prevent dog bites. Her expertise on understanding and changing the behaviour of dog owners is sought by many organisations wishing to prevent dog bites and promote ‘responsible’ dog owner behaviour, such as her work as a consultant for Royal Mail. She is also a Full Member of the Association of Pet Behaviour Counsellors and founder of the Merseyside Dog Safety Partnership. In her spare time Carri teaches dog training classes, and previously was a professional Assistance Dog Instructor. Her practical experience in many areas relating to dogs, combined with a multi-disciplinary academic perspective, gives unique strength and relevance to her expertise.

Website: https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/people/carri-westgarth

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

We learn what canine scent work is, why it's so good for dogs, and how to get started--and progress--in this activity with Certified Nose Work Instructor Bonnie Hartney of Ocean Park Dog Training.

We talk about:

• How Bonnie got started in scent work and how the activity first came about
• Why scent work is fun for dogs and for their humans
• What to expect at a beginner class
• Whether scent work is for all dogs
• The kinds of scent that are used, how dogs progress to searching for a target odour, and the kinds of searches they do
• What Bonnie has learned about her dogs from doing scent work
• How Kristi's dog Archer is likely to do at scent work if she tries it
• Differences between scent work classes and professional scent work

If you'd like to try nose work, Bonnie recommends:

National Association of Canine Scent Work: https://www.nacsw.net/

Find an Instructor https://education.k9nosework.com/instructor_extsearch

Online Scent Training with Scent Work University:

https://www.scentworku.com/collections/foundation-sniffing-program

For shy and fearful dogs with Kelly Lee; https://www.dogkindtraining.com/sniff

The book Bonnie chose is Finding Flora by Elinor Florence.

Bonnie Hartney is the owner and head instructor/trainer of Ocean Park Dog Training in Surrey, BC, which is AnimalKind accredited. Bonnie is a force-free, reward-based dog training professional, who brings knowledge and experience working with shelter dogs and pet dogs to advance other’s understanding of pet dog behaviour. Bonnie earned her CTC (Certificate in Training and Counselling) from a distinguished, international leader, Jean Donaldson at the Academy for Dog Trainers. To further her understanding of scent detection for pet dogs, Bonnie studied with NACSW (National Association of Canine Scent Work) founders and is a certified CNWI (Certified NoseWork Instructor) with 9 years experience teaching Nose Work. For over 25 years, Bonnie has volunteered and worked with the BC SPCA, helping shelter dogs to be adopted. Currently they have Nose Work classes every day of the week with 4 certified Nose Work Instructors and more than 95 dog teams.

Bonnie's website, Ocean Park Dog Training https://www.oceanparkdogtraining.com/ 

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/oceanparkdogtraining/ and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/oceanparkdog/ 

You might also like Ep 35 on human remains detection dogs with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17384889

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

We hosted an Ask Me Anything on anxious, fearful, and reactive dogs. You asked some incredible questions, and this is the result.

We talked about:

• How to find the starting place for working with anxious dogs
• Helping dogs who are afraid of elevators
• Fear of strangers
• Helping reactive dogs in tricky environments like apartment buildings and cities
• Reactivity to other dogs
• Fear of loud noises
• How the unfortunate side effects of shock collars can persist after training is over
• How to persuade people not to use aversives
• and more!

Also mentioned in this episode: Understanding resource guarding in dogs (and what to do about it) with Lisa Skavienski https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/12905737  (episode 8)

Thank you to everyone who sent in questions for this episode and/or who attended the live event. If you'd like to see more events like this, let us know!

This event was arranged to celebrate the publication of my book Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, which is available wherever books are sold, including Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Bark-Science-Helping-Anxious-Reactive/dp/1778403328/ and Greystone Books https://greystonebooks.com/products/bark

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

We talk about the real world of conservation dogs and the fictional world of FBI dogs and conservation canines with Jen J. Danna, who writes under the name Sara Driscoll. Deadly Trade is the latest FBI K-9 mystery from author Sara Driscoll. K-9 handler Meg Jennings can never walk away from her job, even amid her Hawaiian Islands honeymoon, where she and her search-and-rescue black Lab encounter a double threat from wildlife poachers and Mother Nature.

We talked about:

• The work of conservation dogs and what they do on the Hawaiian islands
• Why Sara was inspired to write about conservation canines in Deadly Trade
• How to write about dogs as characters in their own right
• The kind of training that Hawk, the FBI canine, and the conservation dogs in the book would go through in real life
• How the dogs influence the success of the mission
• How Hawk picks up on things his handler, Meg, can't
• Why Sara chose to write about endangered birds
• What it's like writing with a co-author
• And as always, we ask for a book recommendation!

Deadly Trade is published on 28th October 2025 and is available from all good bookstores.

Sara Driscoll is the pen name of Jen J. Danna, coauthor of the Abbott and Lowell Forensic Mysteries and author of the FBI K-9 Mysteries and NYPD Negotiators series. After over 30 years in infectious diseases research, Jen hung up her lab coat to concentrate on her real love—writing “exceptional” thrillers (Publishers Weekly). She is a member of the Crime Writers of Canada and lives with her husband and four rescued cats outside of Toronto, Ontario. 

Learn more about Sara Driscoll on her websites, saradriscollauthor.com and https://jenjdanna.com/.

Also mentioned in this episode:

• Away to Me by Patricia McConnell PhD will be published in February 2026 and is available for pre-order now
• You can hear Patricia McConnell talking about the book at 2024's Bark! Fest, which is available as a previous episode of this podcast https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16149739
• Learn about the work of historical scent detection dogs in an episode with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17384889 
• The Hawaiian crow is the ‘Alalā. Learn about the ‘Alalā project https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/alalaproject/ 

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

Demand barking is a type of barking that dogs do to get something they want, like a treat, toy, or attention. It happens because we've previously (accidentally) rewarded them for it. So what should you do if your dog is demand barking?

In this episode, we talk about:

• How dogs bark for different reasons, including watchdog barking and barking due to fear
• What demand barking is
• Why the phrase "demand barking" is actually a bit of a misnomer
• We give examples of demand barking, including when Zazie's dog Pepper does this
• We share ideas and tips for what to do about it
• Kristi talks about why she set up a course on this and what's included
• And finally we talk about the books we're reading.

The books we recommend in this episode are:

• Spoiler Alert: You're Gonna Die by Korttany Finn and Jacquie Purcell
• Junie: A Novel by Chelene Knight

Also mentioned in this episode:

• The episode on harmonious multidog households and resource guarding in dogs https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17835523
• The episode on how to help your reactive or fearful dog https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17695165
• The Hogan's Alley Society https://www.hogansalleysociety.org/

Learn more about Kristi Benson and her courses: https://www.kristibenson.com/

Learn more about Zazie Todd: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/home.html

Get Zazie's books from all good bookstores or here: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/books.html

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

Dog sports are fun activities for you and your dog, but with so many to choose from, it can feel daunting to get started. We demystify dog sports with trainer Ayoka Bubar, a Rally Obedience judge who has taught (and tried) many different sports. She shares the details and tells us how to match sports to dogs.

We talked about:

• Why Ayoka loves dog sports
• Why dog sports are good for dogs
• We get examples: rally o, tricks training, barn hunt, and carting
• Which kinds of dogs and people these sports are best for
• The best place to start if someone is interested in trying a dog sport
• The role of a dog's breed in choosing a dog sport
• Which dog sports are suitable for reactive and fearful dogs
• What Ayoka has learned from doing so many different dog sports
• The kind of community that is found amongst dog sports people
• And as always, we get a book recommendation

Ayoka chose Atomic Habits by James Clear as her book choice.

Ayoka Bubar is an approved judge for the Canadian Association of Rally Obedience and she never passes up an opportunity to try a new sport with her Rottweilers. She has trained or trialed in Flyball, Agility, Tracking, Trick Titling, Herding, Rally Obedience, Mondioring, IGP, and Scentwork, so she is the perfect person to tell us about dog sports. As well, Ayoka believes that dog training should be fun for dogs and their humans, which we love to hear. And she likes to use positive reinforcement techniques to help handlers communicate more effectively with their dogs.

Learn more and get details of classes at https://ayokabubar.com/

Ayoka on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ayoka.bubar

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theogrottendog/ 

Also mentioned in this episode:

Bark! The Science of Making Your Dog Happy by Zazie Todd. Available wherever books are sold. 

Tricks classes by Erica Beckwith of A Matter of Manners Dog Training https://www.amatterofmannersdogtraining.com/

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

The benefits of having more than one dog and what you should do to ensure everyone gets along. We talk about:

• How having another dog in the home can be beneficial for a dog
• How it can cause issues
• Disagreements between dogs are normal, just like people disagree
• What kind of disagreement is okay
• The mistake many people make which makes things worse
• How to make sure resources aren't a source of stress
• How to deal with dog fights and break them up
• Management can be life-saving for multi-dog homes
• On the fly training for polite interactions
• And as always, we recommend some books

The books recommended in this episode are:

How to P*** Off Men: 109 Things to Say to Shatter the Male Ego by Kyle Prue

Birds of Coastal British Columbia by Nancy Baron and John Acorn

This episode topic was suggested by a listener. If you have ideas for things you'd like us to talk about, let us know!

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

Content warning: Suicidal ideation comes up in this conversation. Help is available. In Canada or the US, call or text 988 for the suicide crisis helpline. In the UK, the Samaritans are on 116 123. 

When a cute puppy turns into a terrible teen, many people struggle. Tina Spring of Sit Happens joins us to talk about adolescent canines and how she helps people with their teenage dog in a place where many pups miss out on puppy class. Tina is also the smart, funny, and kind host of Your Family Dog podcast.

We talked about:

• the importance of puppy class and how to socialize your puppy
• why Tina offers an adolescent puppy class
• the issues that people have as their puppy becomes a teen
• the importance of food treats and seeing things through your puppy's eyes
• what Tina says when people are struggling with their adolescent dog
• similarities between parenting teenage puppies and teenage humans
• burnout and trauma in dog training
• Your Family Dog podcast and how Tina got involved

Zazie Todd and Marc Bekoff on Your Family Dog 

Zazie on YFD to talk about anxious dogs  and happy dogs 

The Beast Keepers by Julie Fudge Smith 

Colleen Pelar https://colleenpelar.com/

Talking to Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell.

The full show notes and transcript are available here: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2025/09/teenage-dogs-and-what-to-do-about-them.html

Tina Spring started training dogs as a child in 1979 in 4H. Her love of dogs and of teaching led her to a career working with dogs and families. She published her first book, 90 Days to the Perfect Puppy, in 2005 and it’s now part of her online puppy rearing program that bears the same name. She is the owner of Sit Happens Dog Training & Behavior, LLC in Athens, Georgia, where she does in person and online consults and specializes in fear and aggression and the special relationships between kids & dogs. She’s also the co-host of the Your Family Dog podcast, which is a really fun and excellent podcast.

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky 

Leave us a voicemail!

If a dog is reactive, fearful, or anxious, often the dog is struggling--and so is their person. We share tips to help you to help your fearful dog, from the first chapter of Zazie's book Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog. Bark! is out now in paperback and available wherever books are sold.

Get Bark!: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/books.html 

We talked about:

• How important it is to recognize the signs of stress in dogs
• Your priority is to help your dog feel safe
• Pick a food your dog really loves that you can use to teach them to like the thing they are scared of
• The kinds of food that are best
• How to be prepared and make sure you have those tasty treats to hand
• How to bridge and fridge
• The importance of finding activities that both you and your dog love
• Kristi and Zazie each share a story of a time something unexpected happened and they had treats to hand
• And finally we talked about the books we're reading.

The books we mention in this episode:

• The Beaverton podcast (okay, it's a podcast!)
• The Home Cookbook, 125th anniversary edition
• Otter by Jackie Morris

Also mentioned is a study on how people spot signs of stress in dogs interacting with children. You can read about it here: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2017/05/people-mistakenly-think-anxious-dogs.html

Support the show

About the co-hosts:

Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.

Kristi Benson's website  Facebook  

Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. 

Instagram  BlueSky