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This episode of The PBSCCS Podcast is a group discussion on Spring Training. This is Part Two of the interview.
Speakers:
-Logan Jones (Chicago White Sox)
-Joe Leo (Arizona Diamondbacks)
Questions/topics covered in this episode:
-Using Spring Training to prepare players for the demands of the regular season
-The good, the bad, the ugly of Spring Training
-Finding time to take care of yourself
Quotes:
-"There's a lot of different things we can do to manage that workload as Spring Training goes on to keep guys fresh" (4:32 - Joe Leo)
-"There's been, I feel like, a pretty decent push recently to make Spring Training a bit more representative of the demands of what the season actually entails" (5:09 - Logan Jones)
-"Practicing gratitude, being present, meditating - doing all those things to take care of yourself. Because if you can't take care of yourself you're not gonna best be able to serve the people around you" (26:30 - Joe Leo)
-"I think this influence and impact probably extends beyond maybe what we even know" (27:50 - Logan Jones)
If you would like to learn more from the guests on this episode, you can follow them on social media:
Instagram:
@logan_jones95 - Logan Jones
@joeyl2 - Joe Leo
Twitter:
@Logan_Jones95 - Logan Jones
This episode of The PBSCCS Podcast is a group discussion on Spring Training. This is Part One of the interview.
Speakers:
-Logan Jones (Chicago White Sox)
-Joe Leo (Arizona Diamondbacks)
Questions/topics covered in this episode:
-Daily responsibilities during Spring Training for the strength and conditioning coach
-Collaborating with other departments during Spring Training
-Intake testing and assessment during Spring Training
-Programming and individualization for players upon arrival
Quotes:
-"It is true chaos, but I've learned to embrace that" - Logan Jones (5:47)
-"Everyone in the organization is in the building this time of year, so there's a lot of cool opportunities to talk shop with people that you might not be seeing all year" - Joe Leo (16:42)
-"I've been super fortunate to just see really good people doing really good things and things that they're really smart in. And I've been able to kind of pick up and put my own spin on these things" - Logan Jones (29:53)
-"I think, on our end, leveraging the relationships we have and creating new relationships with the guys we haven't had is really powerful and a great way to get to the meat of what we're trying to do faster" - Joe Leo (40:51)
If you would like to learn more from the guests on this episode, you can follow them on social media:
Instagram:
@logan_jones95 - Logan Jones
@joeyl2 - Joe Leo
Twitter:
@Logan_Jones95 - Logan Jones
Kirby Retzer began his career with the Boston Red Sox Strength and Conditioning staff as a college intern in 2013. Upon graduation from the Exercise Science program at Florida Gulf Coast University, he was hired by the Minnesota Twins where he oversaw their rookie-level operations and injury rehabilitation programs for two seasons. Then, from 2016 to 2023, Kirby returned to the Red Sox and held 4 different leadership positions throughout his 8 seasons with the team. During his tenure with the Red Sox, he earned a Master’s degree in Kinesiology with an emphasis on Orthopedic Rehabilitation and studied to become a Certified Muscle Systems Specialist. Kirby has been able to prolong the careers of present Major League players and develop some of the young rising stars in the game today. He left the Red Sox organization to spend more time with his family and work with Symmetry.
Topics covered in this episode:
-Discussing life during and after professional baseball
-Maximizing impact as a Strength and Conditioning Coach
-Continuing Education Resources
Quotes:
-"The principles apply to everybody really" (9:45)
-"I want to provide really good evidence-based information layered within experience to help people, and I think that that's probably the way that I want to 'get back' to the game" (23:13)
-"Obviously biased right here, but the CMSS stuff, the Certified Muscle Systems Specialist, is the best thing I've found" (31:11)
If you'd like to learn more from Kirby, you can find him on social media:
Instagram:
@kirbyretzer
or Kirby can be reached at:
[email protected]
Kirby Retzer began his career with the Boston Red Sox Strength and Conditioning staff as a college intern in 2013. Upon graduation from the Exercise Science program at Florida Gulf Coast University, he was hired by the Minnesota Twins where he oversaw their rookie-level operations and injury rehabilitation programs for two seasons. Then, from 2016 to 2023, Kirby returned to the Red Sox and held 4 different leadership positions throughout his 8 seasons with the team. During his tenure with the Red Sox, he earned a Master’s degree in Kinesiology with an emphasis on Orthopedic Rehabilitation and studied to become a Certified Muscle Systems Specialist. Kirby has been able to prolong the careers of present Major League players and develop some of the young rising stars in the game today. He left the Red Sox organization to spend more time with his family and work with Symmetry.
Topics covered in this episode:
-Working with Chris Sale on his journey to a National League Cy Young award
-The value of training with machines
-Being a Certified Muscle Systems Specialist
Quotes:
-"It's just of paramount importance for us to be able to develop tension in positions and under load and different configurations" (9:40)
-"But if we take the principles of what the machines afford us to do and apply that training methodology while we're in a hallway, we can be creative with banded resistance" (10:08)
-"It's a way to systematically analyze a person to help them reduce pain or eliminate unwanted sensation like tightness of stiffness" (25:34)
If you'd like to learn more from Kirby, you can find him on social media:
Instagram:
@kirbyretzer
or Kirby can be reached at:
[email protected]
Joe Scire is currently serving in his third season as the Team Dietitian and Coordinator of Performance Nutrition for the Arizona Diamondbacks. Before joining the Diamondbacks, Joe spent three years at Ohio State University, where he pursued his master’s in medical dietetics, worked closely with the baseball team, and researched performance biomarkers in the endurance athlete population. A New Hampshire native, he earned his bachelor’s degree in biochemistry, molecular and cellular biology from the University of New Hampshire.
Topics covered in this episode:
-A deep dive into his role with the Diamondbacks
-Advice for others on finding success
-Continuing education resources
Quotes:
-"I'm ready to serve whenever they are ready" (12:24)
-"If you can kind of like stand your ground and just do your best and show them that you care, I think you're gonna be in a good space with guys" (24:59)
-"The real measure of success in my mind is your commitment to personal growth" (30:07)
If you'd like to learn more from Joe, you can find him on social media:
Instagram:
@jmscire
Joe Scire is currently serving in his third season as the Team Dietitian and Coordinator of Performance Nutrition for the Arizona Diamondbacks. Before joining the Diamondbacks, Joe spent three years at Ohio State University, where he pursued his master’s in medical dietetics, worked closely with the baseball team, and researched performance biomarkers in the endurance athlete population. A New Hampshire native, he earned his bachelor’s degree in biochemistry, molecular and cellular biology from the University of New Hampshire.
Topics covered in this episode:
-Betting on yourself and serving the next generation
-Helping elite athletes to connect the dots
-The secret to making a great smoothie
Quotes:
-"You have to look at it as like kind of an honor to serve the next generation" (9:53)
-"It's hard for things to stick, I think especially in our fields because we need a long runway for things to actually take affect" (15:38)
-"Avocados in smoothies is the secret ingredient to make it elite" (18:27)
If you'd like to learn more from Joe, you can find him on social media:
Instagram:
@jmscire
Chris Frosch is entering his 6th season in professional baseball and 4th year with the Baltimore Orioles organization, where he is currently their AA strength coach. Prior to joining the O's in 2022, he spent time with the Chicago Cubs as a MiLB S&C Coach and interned at both Florida State and Texas Christian University in 2019. He graduated from the University of Tampa with a degree in Human Performance
Topics covered in this episode:
-Working the Arizona Fall League
-Advice and ways to find success
-Continuing education resources
Quotes:
-"You always want what's best for the guys" (8:50)
-"At the end of the day you're part of player development, and your job is to produce Big Leaguers that help the Major League club win" (16:58)
-"Be patient, take care of your people, do a good job, and the results will come" (31:36)
If you'd like to learn more from Chris, you can find him on social media:
Instagram:
@cfrosch_
X:
@cfrosch_
Chris Frosch is entering his 6th season in professional baseball and 4th year with the Baltimore Orioles organization, where he is currently their AA strength coach. Prior to joining the O's in 2022, he spent time with the Chicago Cubs as a MiLB S&C Coach and interned at both Florida State and Texas Christian University in 2019. He graduated from the University of Tampa with a degree in Human Performance
Topics covered in this episode:
-Completing a quality internship
-His best professional baseball story
-Strength and skill development
Quotes:
-"I think there's a kind of shift in baseball. Across the board seems to be heading that way towards athleticism and placing a premium on that" (9:20)
-"It's really easy to have a negative impact honestly, especially in-season, you know, if you ask too much of guys" (11:15)
-"Off-season is where the magic's gonna happen, and where you can make those big strides that some guys need" (24:26)
If you'd like to learn more from Chris, you can find him on social media:
Instagram:
@cfrosch_
X:
@cfrosch_
This is Part Two of an interview with Phil Wilson of Relax Saunas. Relax Saunas is currently a sponsor of The PBSCCS. Relax Saunas are far infrared saunas, and in this episode we discuss far infrared light and therapy.
Quotes:
-"But what I like best about the Relax Sauna, and far infrared saunas in general of course, is that it activates the parasympathetic nervous system" (18:25)
-"Basically when it gets you into the present moment then that's when all the magic happens. And this helps you get into the present moment" (19:12)
-"10% average increase. Okay...what I'm saying is the Relax Sauna can make the difference between hitting a home run and doing an out" (31:05)
You can find much more information on the Relax Saunas website:
relaxsaunas.com
You can also get $200 off your purchase by using the code MLB200 at checkout below:
relaxsaunas.com/mlb
This is Part One of an interview with Phil Wilson of Relax Saunas. Relax Saunas is currently a sponsor of The PBSCCS. Relax Saunas are far infrared saunas, and in this episode we discuss far infrared light and therapy.
Quotes:
-"What a beautiful product that I can promote. And what's exciting is that it gets you into the now" (7:45)
-"The Relax Sauna is really the only portable sauna in the world in the sense that it will fit in a suitcase" (16:49)
-"Not all saunas are alike" (22:33)
You can find much more information on the Relax Saunas website:
relaxsaunas.com
You can also get $200 off your purchase by using the code MLB200 at checkout below:
relaxsaunas.com/mlb
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