The PERColator Podcast

The PERColator Podcast

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The PERColator Podcast episodes

  • Episode 51: The Doctrines of Impasse and Implementation

    A detailed review of the doctrines of impasse and implementation at the intersection of the duty to bargain in good faith and seemingly endless negotiations. 

    Cases referenced in the episode:

    • Vancouver School District, Decision 11791-A (PECB, 2013) - Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission 
    • Yakima Valley Community College, Decision 11326-A (PECB, 2013) - Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission 
    32 min
  • Episode 50: The Duty to Provide Information

    Chris and Loyd discuss the duty to provide information in the collective bargaining environment focusing on both the legal and practical aspects of the obligation. 


    References:

    Island County, Decision 11946-A (PECB, 2014) - Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission

    City of Redmond, Decision 8879-A (PECB, 2006) - Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission

    Seattle School District, Decision 5542-C (PECB, 1997) - Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission

    Snohomish PUD, Decision 7656-A (PECB, 2003) - Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission

    34 min
  • Episode 46: PERColator Profile with Otto Klein

    Get to know Otto Klein, a partner and founder of Summit Law Group, and a giant in public sector labor relations.  Guest co-host Jamie Siegel, a mediator and hearing examiner at PERC, also joins Matt and Otto as they discuss valuable insights, tips, and stories.  

    51 min
  • Episode 45: The Power of No in Bargaining

    No might be the scariest word in negotiations where the goal is to reach an agreement where both sides can say yes. But could there be an upside to the use of No in bargaining? Join Chris and Matt as they talk about ways that a nuanced use of No can be a helpful tool in the negotiations process. 

    References:

    • Never Split the Difference, Chris Voss
    • Start With No, Jim Camp
    • Three Kinds of No, James Sebenius


    29 min
  • Episode 44: The Virtues of Active Listening in Bargaining

    The virtues of active listening have long been touted for its benefit in relationship building and understanding. But modern research has examined how active listening can lead to depolarization and stronger working environments, which we explore on this episode.

    References:

    • Listening to Understand: The Role of High-Quality Listening on Speakers’ Attitude Depolarization During Disagreements (various authors).
    • Communicating for Workplace Connection: A Longitudinal Study of the Outcomes of Listening Training on Teachers’ Autonomy, Psychological Safety, and Relational Climate (various authors)
    42 min
  • Episode 43: Interest Arbitration – 2023 Trends and Insights

    Learn how interest arbitrators decided on issues as wages in times of high CPIs, recruitment and retention in tight labor markets, drug testing in light of legalized cannabis, and scheduling challenges. What trends that might impact today's bargaining, particularly for those with interest arbitration available to them when they reach impasse.

    References:

    Interest Arbitration Report, American Bar Association Section of Labor & Employment Law, State and Local Government Bargaining and Employment Law Committee.


    29 min

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The PERColator podcast, hosted by the Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission, is a space where negotiation theory meets practice. The podcast will explore different themes related to…