What the hell is up? This week, I’m joined by Dr. Sailesh Rao—engineer, researcher, and founder of Climate Healers—to dive into a powerful conversation about climate change, veganism, spirituality, and the unforgettable pinky promise that drives his mission. 🌍✨

Dr. Rao shares how his background as an engineer, instrumental in building the internet, informs his unique approach to animal advocacy and systemic change. His insights into understanding and reshaping systems are nothing short of transformative.

Get ready for a thought-provoking and inspiring episode. Enjoy! 🎧