The right of students' to free expression on campus is a sacred one and part of the academic advancement they should be engaging in. But are universities sacrificing academic riguor to placate no-platforming students? What role does the media play in the public's perception that free speech is under threat at universities? And what do the controversies around free speech have in common with dangers to academic freedom?

These are some of the questions Sara Custer discusses with deptuy news editor John Morgan and Hanna Holborn Gray who served as president of the University of Chicago from 1978 to 1993 and actiing president of Yale University from 1977 to 1978.