State Democrats have been working behind the scenes to keep a crime measure off of the November ballot. The measure would repeal portions of Proposition 47, which relaxed the penalties for certain crimes including shoplifting and retail theft. But, Democrats have been working on their own crime fighting package.

It's time for our daily chat with KCBS Insider Phil Matier. Phil joined KCBS Radio's Patti Reising and Bret Burkhart to discuss Prop 47.