Some of the most valuable leadership lessons come from challenging life experiences.

In this episode, host Jess Carter and producer Chelsea Gill get personal as they talk about battling cancer, from receiving their diagnosis to deciding on a treatment plan—and the way data played a part in their decisions.

Now both in remission, Jess and Chelsea reflect on how their journeys have influenced their approach to leadership. They explore how paying attention to your body can help you make better choices. Through their experiences, they learned to be patient when making decisions, to consult with experts, and to trust their judgment—skills that carry over into work and life.

This episode is a reminder that data is relevant everywhere, and listening to your body can significantly impact personal well-being and job performance.

In this episode, you will learn:

• How physical and emotional awareness can improve leadership skills
• The role of self-advocacy in pursuing better outcomes, whether for health or work
• The importance of collecting multiple data points before finalizing a decision

Things to listen for:

• (00:00) An introduction to the episode with Chelsea and Jess
• (02:11) Chelsea and Jess' diagnoses
• (05:42) How body awareness can help you as a leader
• (11:45) Advocating for yourself in both health and professional decisions
• (12:20) Collecting data on treatment and care
• (18:01) Why you should prepare for low-chance outcomes
• (22:45) Pause before making a decision
• (24:34) You have the ability to decide what's best for you
• (29:29) Leadership lessons from battling cancer