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Britain is at a breaking point, and on this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Rob Bates, founder of the Centre for Migration Control, for a forensic breakdown of Shabana Mahmood’s new asylum and immigration reforms.

We dig into what these proposals really mean: from 20-year settlement routes, the so-called “jewellery clause,” and Labour’s attempt to reframe illegal Channel crossings as an acceptable path to refugee status to the ballooning cost of asylum hotels, the collapse of border enforcement, and how Britain ended up spending billions housing people the state has lost track of.

Rob exposes the shocking scale of visa overstayers, the true size of the illegal migrant population, and why the small boats crisis is only the visible tip of a much larger system failure. We explore the data wars, crime figures, FOI revelations, nationality vs. country-of-birth disputes, and the politicised fight over who gets to define the truth.

We also get into the deeper structural rot: the ECHR bottleneck, the Modern Slavery Act being gamed, human rights loopholes exploited by foreign offenders, and how gangs, trafficking networks, and the black-market economy have embedded themselves into Britain’s immigration system.

All this, small boat crossings, overstayers, asylum hotels, the £16 billion bill, ECHR constraints, crime data controversies, and the political revolt inside Labour in a conversation cutting through the spin to what’s really happening at Britain’s borders.

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