This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m sitting down with Jim Sloan, CEO and founder of Navartis a specialist recruitment agency in the infrastructure sector. 

Jim’s journey is an incredible story of growth to a team of 110+ across multiple countries and significant profits of £2M EBITDA

Here’s what we discuss:

🔑 How Jim started the business as a new brand within a larger group

💼 The pivotal MBO process that happened shortly after and set the stage for exponential growth.

📊 Why understanding net margin could save your business.

🚀 How to build a scalable model that doesn’t depend on you.

🏆 The secret to balancing massive growth with your personal life.

Whether you’re in the trenches scaling up, bouncing back from setbacks, or planning your future exit when the time is right, this episode is full of actionable advice.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Jim Sloan and Navartis

02:25 Jim's Journey into Recruitment

06:42 The Entrepreneurial Spirit and Early Challenges

10:48 Navigating the Recession and Business Growth

13:59 The Management Buyout Experience

20:05 Post-MBO Growth and Expansion

26:34 Strategic Growth and Profitability

32:39 Investing in Future Growth

35:29 Identifying Market Opportunities

39:02 Building a Business for Better Returns

43:27 The Importance of Management in Growth

48:13 Effective Communication in Recruitment Management

55:31 Balancing Business Growth and Personal Life

01:04:33 Learning from Mistakes in Leadership

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Episode Sponsor: Atlas

Your memory isn’t perfect. So Atlas remembers everything for you. 

Atlas is an end-to-end recruitment platform built for the AI generation. It automates your admin so you can focus on the business tasks that matter. 

How many conversations do you have every day? With clients. Candidates. Your team. Service providers.

Now how many of those conversations can you recall with 100% accuracy? How many hours a week do you spend making notes to try and retain as much as possible? And how much is still getting lost along the way? 

Traditional CRM systems weren’t built for the type of recruitment business you’re running right now. 

They were built to rely on the structured, tagged, categorised, and formal data you could feed it. Manual processes that needed you to input specific information based on specific questions and answers. 

But what about all the other conversations you’re having every single day? 

Atlas isn’t an ATS or a CRM. It’s an Intelligent Business Platform that helps you perform 10X better than you could on your own. 

How? 

By removing all your low-value tasks, acting as your perfect memory, and providing highly relevant recommendations to impact your performance. 

Learn more about the power of Atlas – and take advantage of the exclusive offer for The RAG listeners – by visiting https://recruitwithatlas.com/therag/ 

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Episode Sponsor: Hoxo

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 7000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!

You can have this too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template
• Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 7000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Craig Whiting, founder of RLS Search, who shares his incredible journey from solo billing to building a 15-member team specialising in tech talent for investment management.

In this episode, Craig opens up about his transition from running a small operation with his partner—billing £1.5 million annually over 6 years—to managing a growing team, expanding internationally, and learning to "step off the tools." 

Here are just a few reasons to tune in:

• 🧑‍💻 Understanding why he and his partner focused on remote, solo billing for the first 6 years of their business
• 📈 Learn how Craig scaled RLS Search organically, only adding team members when ready—and how remote work reshaped his business model.
• 🤝 Hear Craig’s tips for building meaningful client relationships that boost both credibility and profitability.
• 🥊 Discover how Craig's background in boxing instilled the discipline and integrity that fuel his recruitment success.
• ⚖️ How Craig ensures he constantly balances family life with business growth
• 🌍 Explore his plans for international expansion, including new offices in South Africa and Pakistan.

If you're looking to build a global recruitment team, you won’t want to miss this!

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Episode Sponsor: Untapped

Untapped is THE market leader and go-to agency for finding and hiring tried-and-tested offshore talent into UK, US and Australian-based recruitment companies.

They’re providing top-class TEAMMATES, NOT OUTSOURCES! 

We use Untapped for Hoxo’s own offshore hires, and it’s been a total game-changer for our team. No one else can compete with the quality of their network, their in-depth candidate assessment process or their time to hire. 

If hiring elite-level overseas talent into your business to boost sales and increase productivity whilst saving yourself a huge amount in employment costs isn’t on your radar for 2024, it should be!

Untapped are hiring recruitment, sales, marketing and support staff into recruitment agencies of all shapes, sizes and specialisms globally and they are growing rapidly!

Join the waiting list today so you don’t miss out on the next cohort of business-launching hiring projects. https://bit.ly/47GGdvZ

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Episode Sponsor: Hoxo

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes daily and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 7,000 recruiters around the globe follow this process daily, and the results have been amazing!

You can have this too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost your business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template
• Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp, which has seen over 7000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

Ever wondered what it takes to build a thriving recruitment business with your partner? 

On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, Kate Cross joins me to reveal the highs, lows, and secrets to creating sustainable contract revenue while maintaining a successful personal relationship.

Kate is co-founder of Harvey Jacob, a construction recruitment agency that’s generated over £500,000 in contract revenue annually for the past 17 years. 

Kate worked alongside her husband Simon as a recruiter before they made the bold decision to start Harvey Jacob together. 

Now, through her new venture, Coral Coached, she’s on a mission to help other recruitment businesses find sustainable success for themselves.

💡 Why you should listen:

• Unique challenges: Kate offers a behind-the-scenes look at the dynamics of running a family business and shares valuable insights into balancing work and personal life.
• Sustainable success: Learn how she’s built consistent contract revenue and created a solid business model that stands the test of time.
• Coaching for growth: Explore the value of coaching in fostering personal and professional development.
• Lessons in leadership: Kate’s approach to emotional intelligence and resilience is something every leader can learn from.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to The RAG Podcast and Kate Cross

01:44 Kate's journey into recruitment

03:39 Transitioning from banking to recruitment

05:32 The move to Sydney and business setup

11:02 Challenges of running a business with a partner

15:20 Navigating personal and professional life

19:18 Rebranding and business growth

22:51 Managing a family business

27:49 Overcoming relationship challenges

30:39 Reflections on business and personal growth

32:36 Navigating stress and expectations in recruitment

35:24 Personal struggles and professional growth

38:40 The journey of motherhood and coaching

43:22 Life changes and returning to business

46:36 Evolving business strategies and realisations

51:25 The transition to coaching and supporting others

57:14 Building a sustainable business model

01:00:29 Lessons learned and future aspirations

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Episode Sponsor: Atlas

Your memory isn’t perfect. So Atlas remembers everything for you. 

Atlas is an end-to-end recruitment platform built for the AI generation. It automates your admin so you can focus on the business tasks that matter. 

How many conversations do you have every day? With clients. Candidates. Your team. Service providers.

Now how many of those conversations can you recall with 100% accuracy? How many hours a week do you spend making notes to try and retain as much as possible? And how much is still getting lost along the way? 

Traditional CRM systems weren’t built for the type of recruitment business you’re running right now. 

They were built to rely on the structured, tagged, categorised, and formal data you could feed it. Manual processes that needed you to input specific information based on specific questions and answers. 

But what about all the other conversations you’re having every single day? 

Atlas isn’t an ATS or a CRM. It’s an Intelligent Business Platform that helps you perform 10X better than you could on your own. 

How? 

By removing all your low-value tasks, acting as your perfect memory, and providing highly relevant recommendations to impact your performance. 

Learn more about the power of Atlas – and take advantage of the exclusive offer for The RAG listeners – by visiting https://recruitwithatlas.com/therag/ 

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Episode Sponsor: Hoxo

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...x

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 7000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!

You can have this too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template
• Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 7000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

From no recruitment experience to solo founder billing £1m a year– @Paul de Rozarieux’s Journey in Recruitment

This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by an incredible guest, Paul de Rozarieux, founder of Fusion Search. 

Paul’s story is truly one of a kind. 

With zero recruitment experience, Paul built his business from scratch, growing it into a seven-figure success without formal training or support.

But there’s more to Paul’s story than just numbers. 

After 20 years of running a generalist recruitment firm focusing on change and transformation in FinTech, Paul has decided to take a bold new direction. 

He’s launching Beyond the Founder, a new venture aimed at helping ambitious recruitment companies avoid the mistakes he made and scale successfully.

In this episode, we dive deep into:

• How Paul built a seven-figure business from nothing.
• His decision to pivot after feeling unfulfilled despite his financial success.
• Why checking in with yourself and finding your passion is crucial as an entrepreneur.

If you’re looking for inspiration, advice on scaling, or insights into finding joy in your work again, this is an episode you don’t want to miss!

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Paul de Rozarieux

03:04 Paul's Unique Entry into Recruitment

05:56 The Early Days of Fusion Search

09:01 Navigating Challenges and Finding Success

11:49 The Evolution of Business Strategy

14:55 Financial Growth and Personal Reflections

18:06 Balancing Work and Family Life

20:54 The Pressure of Success and Self-Worth

24:13 Future Aspirations and Lessons Learned

31:18 Navigating the Challenges of Solo Entrepreneurship

32:42 The Importance of Strategic Hiring

33:12 The Journey of Niche Recruitment

35:30 Adapting to Market Changes During COVID

39:31 Recognising Burnout and the Need for Change

42:43 Exploring Personal Branding and Networking

46:52 Finding Passion in Recruitment

50:12 Building a Strong Business Infrastructure

54:17 Identifying Key Challenges for Founders

57:41 Establishing Effective Leadership Routines

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Episode Sponsor: Untapped

Untapped is THE market leader and go-to agency for finding and hiring tried-and-tested offshore talent into UK, US and Australian-based recruitment companies.

They’re providing top-class TEAMMATES, NOT OUTSOURCES! 

We use Untapped for Hoxo’s own offshore hires, and it’s been a total game-changer for our team. No one else can compete with the quality of their network, their in-depth candidate assessment process or their time to hire. 

If hiring elite-level overseas talent into your business to boost sales and increase productivity whilst saving yourself a huge amount in employment costs isn’t on your radar for 2024, it should be!

Untapped are hiring recruitment, sales, marketing and support staff into recruitment agencies of all shapes, sizes and specialisms globally and they are growing rapidly!

Join the waiting list today so you don’t miss out on the next cohort of business-launching hiring projects. https://bit.ly/47GGdvZ

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Episode Sponsor: Hoxo

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes daily and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 7,000 recruiters around the globe follow this process daily, and the results have been amazing!

You can have this too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost your business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template
• Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp, which has seen over 7000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

AI is set to transform recruitment, and this episode will blow your mind!

On this week's episode, I am joined by Jordan Shlosberg, founder of Atlas, to discuss how his AI-powered CRM is set to transform the recruitment industry!

Now, Jordan knows a thing or two about building successful businesses. He took his previous company, ProSapient, to a massive $40 million in revenue before exiting. 

He launched Atlas with one goal: to eliminate the tedious admin work recruiters face. Now, with over 1,000 users on their waiting list, Atlas acts as a virtual assistant, handling all the admin and delivering insights at the push of a button.

In this episode, we'll be talking about:

●Jordan's incredible journey to success. 

●How he scaled ProSapient to $40 million and successfully exited the business.

●What he learned along the way, and how those lessons inspired him to create Atlas. 

●We'll also dive deep into how Atlas is using AI to revolutionise recruitment. 

●You'll discover how this powerful CRM can help you streamline your workflow, make better placements, and ultimately, boost your revenue.

I love what Jordan's doing with Atlas. It's like having a virtual assistant who takes care of all those tedious admin tasks that we recruiters have to deal with day in and day out. 

This is why we have partnered together this year, and Atlas is now one of two headline sponsors for the show! 

Tune in to learn how AI is reshaping recruitment, and see if Atlas is the game-changer your agency needs! Don’t miss this conversation with one of the industry's top innovators!

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Episode Sponsor: Hoxo

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 7000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!

You can have this too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template
• Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 7000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

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Episode Sponsor: Atlas

Your memory isn’t perfect. So Atlas remembers everything for you. 

Atlas is an end-to-end recruitment platform built for the AI generation. It automates your admin so you can focus on the business tasks that matter. 

How many conversations do you have every day? With clients. Candidates. Your team. Service providers.

Now how many of those conversations can you recall with 100% accuracy? How many hours a week do you spend making notes to try and retain as much as possible? And how much is still getting lost along the way? 

Traditional CRM systems weren’t built for the type of recruitment business you’re running right now. 

They were built to rely on the structured, tagged, categorised, and formal data you could feed it. Manual processes that needed you to input specific information based on specific questions and answers. 

But what about all the other conversations you’re having every single day? 

Atlas isn’t an ATS or a CRM. It’s an Intelligent Business Platform that helps you perform 10X better than you could on your own. 

How? 

By removing all your low-value tasks, acting as your perfect memory, and providing highly relevant recommendations to impact your performance. 

Learn more about the power of Atlas – and take advantage of the exclusive offer for The RAG listeners – by visiting https://recruitwithatlas.com/therag/ 

Season 8 premiere! 

In this episode, I’m bringing back one of the most talked-about guests we've ever had: Tom Glanfield, the founder of LHi Group (originally Lawrence Harvey). 

Last time Tom was on, he shared his hilarious and inspiring growth journey and plans for exiting the business. Now, he’s back after successfully securing a massive exit! 

We dive into 

• what life looks like after selling his company
• how he’s spending his time
• managing his wealth
• and balancing his personal life. 

Tom opens up about the highs and lows, from enjoying newfound freedom to reflecting on what he missed while building the business, especially as a father.

We also explore his health-focused lifestyle, his commitment to being more present for his family, and the wisdom he has for current and future recruitment founders.

Tom’s story is more than just about the numbers—it’s about creating a life that aligns with your values. 

If you’re a recruitment leader, aspiring entrepreneur, or just curious about life post-exit, tune in for an episode full of inspiration, lessons on leadership, and a look behind the curtain of one of recruitment’s most successful founders.

Chapters:

00:00 Welcome back!

01:00 Reflections on growth and success 

05:03 Navigating challenges during COVID

09:48 Employee Ownership Trust

14:59 Finding balance after exiting the business 

19:58 Health, longevity, and personal growth

25:12 Parenting and life lessons

30:12 Aspirations for the future and legacy 

34:58 Business development lessons

39:47 Final thoughts: Success beyond money

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Episode Sponsor: Hoxo

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within 7 days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 7000 recruiters around the globe are following this process daily and the results have been amazing!

You can have this too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder & CEO Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template
• Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 7000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

________________________________________________________________

Episode Sponsor: Untapped

Untapped is THE market leader and go-to agency for finding and hiring tried-and-tested offshore talent into UK, US and Australian-based recruitment companies.

They’re providing top-class TEAMMATES, NOT OUTSOURCES! 

We use Untapped for Hoxo’s own offshore hires, and it’s been a total game-changer for our team. No one else can compete with the quality of their network, their in-depth candidate assessment process or their time to hire. 

If hiring elite-level overseas talent into your business to boost sales and increase productivity whilst saving yourself a huge amount in employment costs isn’t on your radar for 2024, it should be!

Untapped are hiring recruitment, sales, marketing and support staff into recruitment agencies of all shapes, sizes and specialisms globally and they are growing rapidly!

Join the waiting list today so you don’t miss out on the next cohort of business-launching hiring projects. https://bit.ly/47GGdvZ

Today, I'm excited to look at another of Access Group's products. 

This time, it's an automation platform called ELAY that was recently acquired by the Access Group based on its initial success in integrating well with Vincere and its customers.

 In this episode, I interviewed Mehdi Este, the founder and automation general manager, and Nick Beecroft, the head of new business for Access Recruitment. 

I've known Nick for a long time, but this is my first time meeting Mehdi. They are a really good duo. 

Mehdi tells us the back story of ELAY and explains how it automates processes within recruitment workflows, such as CRM automation, cold outreach emails, and chatbots.

Nick talks more from a client and industry perspective as to why you would want to put this into your operating system. Why automation, both in your CRM and on LinkedIn, will benefit a recruitment business of all sizes and scales

AI and automation are huge industry buzzwords right now.. I've talked about this frequently, and it can be overwhelming and scary. 

In this conversation, we aim to break it down into logical steps in a way that Recruitment leaders can understand 

Key Takeaways

• ELAY integrates with CRM systems and offers features such as CRM automation, cold outreach emails, and chatbots.
• AI and automation can help recruiters save time, improve efficiency, and nurture their database.
• ELAY can be used by recruitment agencies of all sizes, from one-man bands to large enterprises.

If you wish to learn more about AI and automation, then this episode is for you. Education and understanding are key to navigating the world of automation and AI in recruitment, and it's important to start with small steps and build from there.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the RAG podcast and ELAY

09:20 Automating Recruitment Workflows with ELAY

13:09 The Benefits of AI and Automation in Recruitment

25:33 Maximising LinkedIn with ELAY

27:25 Re-engaging with the Database and Remembering Ryan McCabe

28:23 Integration with Access Recruitment

29:17 Early Successes and Acquisition

36:20 Impact of Vincere’s Acquisition

37:15 Partnership and Synergy

40:06 Benefits of Integration

43:30 Future of Automation

48:34 Navigating Automation and AI

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Hoxo Message

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within seven days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 5000 recruiters around the globe follow this process daily, and the results have been amazing!

You can have this, too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder and CEO, Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost your business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template

Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 5000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

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Episode Sponsor: Vincere

Vincere’s portals are a quick-win solution for agencies in need of a no-code candidate and client portal. It’s your one-way ticket to attracting top-tier candidates and clients with everything they need in one place.

Easily set up your candidate, client, and job portal straight within your Vincere account and

configure it to your own brand and theme so it feels like you.

You can publish jobs from Vincere’s Job Portal and sync them directly to your website in one easy click. You can also offer candidates a quick and easy job search interface, so it’s made easy for them to find their perfect role.

And for your clients, you can offer them unique logins so they can access everything

they need 24/7, so they can rate and review candidates and arrange interviews.

Find out more on vincere.io/rag

What really happened to Volcanic and why they are making huge progress under The Access Group.

On this week's show, I'm joined by Nick Thomson and Rachel Kirton from Access.

Nick is the GM of Access Recruitment, and Rachel Kirton is Senior Product Manager for Volcanic.

Volcanic is an iconic brand in our sector. 

Famous for SaaS recruitment websites, they were acquired by The Access Group in 2019.

Similar to the situation with Vincere, post acquisition, there’s been some noise in the market. 

It is no secret that the business has faced challenges, including team changes and the need to regain customer trust. 

On today’s show, I wanted to find out what actually happened and the future of Volcanic under the Access Group.

In the show we discuss:

• The reality of post-acquisition
• The vision to provide a complete end-to-end package of technology and services is crucial for recruitment websites
• New features including WhatApp and diversity and inclusion tracking and compliance
• Their strategy for creating good-looking, high-converting recruitment websites
• Inside the Recruitment Operating System (RecOS) which integrates various recruitment products and provides a seamless experience for customers. 

Nick and Rachel are incredibly open, candid and forthcoming in their opinions and what they're trying to achieve. 

So, if you're a Volcanic customer or you're thinking about upgrading your digital marketing and using their platform in the future, then this one's for you.

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Hoxo Message

Ready to find 25+ warm leads within seven days on LinkedIn?

As a recruiter, most of the working day is spent chasing people via cold outreach on LinkedIn.

This method is super time-consuming, and most people don’t reply because they simply don’t know or trust you.

But it can be different...

If you follow the process in this document, you will hack the LinkedIn Algorithm in just 15 minutes per day and drive warm leads whenever you want them.

A warm lead is a person who you can 100% guarantee knows who you are, and what you do and has shown interest in you and/or your services in the past 48 hours.

Over 5000 recruiters around the globe follow this process daily, and the results have been amazing!

You can have this, too!

Access the Hoxo 20:10:5 guide here: https://bit.ly/3PLjaJY

If you’d prefer to consume this information directly from our Co-Founder and CEO, Sean Anderson (the creator of 20:10:5), you can join our free training course now!

Get access to:

• 4 bite-sized training videos that can immediately help you boost your business on LinkedIn
• Exclusive access to Hoxo 20:10:5 warm leads tracking template

Free support from the Hoxo team to help you implement the process and get the results

This course is part of the hugely successful Personal Brand Bootcamp which has seen over 5000 recruiters graduate and drive millions of warm leads and £££ in revenue as a result!

Get free access to the course once you’ve downloaded our guide.

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On this week's show, I've decided to completely pause the schedule and remember the amazing Ryan McCabe, who sadly lost his life this week.

I really don't have words to describe how amazing Ryan was.

I personally didn't know him that well, but we had great interactions. 

We spoke semi-regularly about our businesses, and I always felt that we were similar and that we saw the world the same way.

He was among the first to sponsor the RAG podcast and take a chance on me.

He was a guest on the show twice in 2020

I felt it was appropriate to remember Ryan by replaying the episode we recorded in May 2020. 

Just over four years ago, a 30-year-old Ryan tells us his unique story.

- His personal story from Mechanical Engineering to recruiter and technology leader

- How his vision for Odro took the platform into a new direction. 

- How the business grew across the global recruitment industry 

- His plans for Odro after 2020

- How he believed in putting 100% into everything he did

I hope this is received well and that you enjoy listening to Ryan and remembering how amazing he was. 

I am also aware that this may be a difficult listen for some people.

This is my little way of sending love to his wife, Roisin and his kids, to his friends and those who worked closely with him at Odro over the years. 

Please join us and let's remember the amazing Ryan McCabe.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Tribute to Ryan McCabe

03:11 Ryan McCabe's Journey from Mechanical Engineer to Recruitment Agency Owner

06:05 Introduction to Odro and its Evolution

10:16 The Story of Odro and its Expansion into the Recruitment Industry

24:00 Lead Generation Strategies and Growth of Odro

26:46 Starting Odro and Focusing on the Recruitment Market

36:06 Realizing the Potential of Odro

40:24 The Significance of the Adecco Deal

42:48 Transitioning to the Role of CEO

45:12 Future Plans for Odro

On this week's show, I'm super excited to be joined by Helen McGuire. Helen is the exited founder of Diversely.io, a technology business acquired by Access Group in 2023. 

Entering the pandemic in 2020, Helen ran a recruitment business dedicated to helping return-to-work mothers find flexible jobs. Helen understood this cause well, as she’d previously been in this exact position herself. 

But she soon realised that her recruitment agency's business model limited the number of people she could actually help. There was so much more to be done!

So, to solve the problem on a broader scale, she decided to pivot her recruitment company and become a technology business instead. 

She partnered with a co-founder from a tech background who was as passionate about the project as she was.

Three years later, she successfully grew and exited the company.

In this episode, we discuss the problems women face when returning to work and Helen’s journey as a female founder. 

Whether you’re a female founder yourself or a male founder who wants to understand the female perspective and how to balance your workforce, you’re going to enjoy this episode

Chapters

00:00 Challenges faced by women returning to work

04:15 The problem of Diversity and Inclusion in the workplace

06:59 Helen's journey as a female founder

15:10 The acquisition of Diversely and Helen's current work

36:31 Solving the DEI problem in Recruitment

40:19 Building networks and the importance of transparency 

45:43 The acquisition by The Access Group

50:27 Scaling the impact of Diversely

57:21 Continuing the journey in the DEI space

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Vincere’s portals are a quick-win solution for agencies in need of a no-code candidate and client portal. It’s your one-way ticket to attracting top-tier candidates and clients with everything they need in one place.

Easily set up your candidate, client, and job portal straight within your Vincere account and

configure it to your own brand and theme so it feels like you.

You can publish jobs from Vincere’s Job Portal and sync them directly to your website in one easy click. You can also offer candidates a quick and easy job search interface, so it’s made easy for them to find their perfect role.

And for your clients, you can offer them unique logins so they can access everything

they need 24/7, so they can rate and review candidates and arrange interviews.

Find out more on vincere.io/rag