Jonathan and Roman host energy consultant Shaun Nel. Shaun gives an extensive explanation of the implementation failures which led to the electricity failures in 2008 and the instability of the network ever since. The decrease in demand for power is discussed in juxtaposition to the massive investment in new energy generation from projects like Medupi and Kusile. There's plenty of insight into the functioning of NERSA, the role of independent power producers, the use of coal versus nuclear or renewable, and the future of energy in your home.