Guest Quentin Ferreira, a clinical psychologist, joins Roman and Jonathan to talk about our obsession with legislating drugs as a criminal problem rather than as a health problem. The racist origins of the “War on Drugs” are discussed along with the real reasons for the drug laws we have today, the black market, and the normal use of drugs versus the minority abuse of these substances. Quentin advocates for the decriminalisation, legalisation and quality control of drugs. Jonathan mostly agrees and Roman gets high vaping.