On this episode of The Rick Smith Show, Rick talks with Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette, Acting VP of Policy and Government Affairs at POGO, about Trump’s reflecting pool debacle as the canary in the coal mine for disastrous policies and incompetent governance. Later, Guardian labor reporter Michael Sainato joins to share what he found on a recent trip to Toledo, Ohio, and Dearborn, Michigan, where workers are still struggling to make ends meet.

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