On this episode of The Rick Smith Show, Rick talks with IUPAT General President Jimmy Williams Jr about the Great American DC State Fail and what the recent Supreme Court decision on Temporary Protected Status means for his members and their families. Later, Veronica Goodman, Senior Director for Workforce Development Policy at the Center for American Progress, joins to discuss their article “6 Things To Know About Vocational Education” and what real investment in training should look like.

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