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What does the future of rent to own technology actually look like, and how can dealers stay competitive as AI, automation, and real time inventory systems reshape retail buying?
In this episode of The RTO Show Podcast, host Pete Shau sits down with Michael Costa from AMPTAB to explore how digital infrastructure, integrated ordering systems, and omnichannel retail tools are changing the way rent to own businesses source, manage, and sell products.
From simplifying vendor catalogs and reducing buying friction to discussing AI powered product search, API integrations, customer facing kiosks, and the future of connected retail ecosystems, this conversation dives into the operational side of modern rent to own.
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Michael Costa is part of the leadership team at AMPTAB, an omnichannel sales and catalog platform used across the furniture, retail, and rent to own industries. He specializes in product workflow systems, retail integrations, customer support strategy, and scalable digital solutions for modern dealers.
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Closing Insight:
“The future of rent to own technology depends on connected systems, accurate data, and making the buying process easier for both dealers and customers.”
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What happens when a first time LedgeCon attendee walks into Capitol Hill and discovers the true power of advocacy in the rent to own industry?
In this episode of The RTO Show Podcast, Lauren Talicska shares her experience attending APRO’s LedgeCon 2026 and explains why legislative advocacy, industry relationships, and storytelling matter more than ever in modern rent to own.
From changing public perception and educating lawmakers to building stronger customer relationships and growing leadership confidence, this conversation explores how the rent to own industry continues evolving through collaboration, community engagement, and proactive advocacy.
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Lauren Talicska is the Vice President of Marketing and Communications at Arona Home Essentials. She has more than 30 years of experience in retail advertising, marketing, and customer engagement, and she currently serves on the TRIB Group Board while actively supporting APRO advocacy initiatives in the rent to own industry.
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Closing Insight:
“People outside the industry often misunderstand rent to own because they do not see the relationships behind it. They do not see the customers, the families, and the communities being helped every single day.”
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What happens when the rent to own industry stops reacting and starts leading the conversation in Washington, D.C.?
In this episode of The RTO Show Podcast, Pete Shau sits down with Charles Smitherman and Amberlee Maya to break down why APRO’s LegCon 2026 became one of the most important advocacy events in recent rent to own history.
From legislative advocacy and consumer protection to virtual rent to own growth and industry storytelling, this conversation explains how rent to own leaders are shaping the future of the RTO transaction before outside groups define it for them.
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Charles Smitherman is the CEO of APRO and a leading advocate for the rent to own industry. He has helped shape legislative strategy, industry education, and state level regulatory efforts across the lease purchase sector.
Amberlee Maya is APRO’s Director of Marketing and Communications and plays a major role in expanding industry visibility, advocacy messaging, and digital communication efforts for the modern rent to own industry.
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Closing Insight:
“If we are not out there defining ourselves, someone else will.”
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What separates a good tire shop from a high performing customer focused operation?
In this episode of The RTO Show Podcast, Pete Shau sits down with Jason Chui of RNR Tire Express to explore how leadership, hands on training, customer service, and operational systems are helping RIMS USA scale one of the fastest growing rent to own tire and wheel businesses in the country.
From ASE certifications and service manager development to AI powered shop systems and customer retention strategies, this conversation explains how the modern tire and wheel rent to own industry is evolving.
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Jason Chui is the Corporate Service Manager and Trainer for RIMS USA under RNR Tire Express. With more than 30 years of automotive experience spanning Sears Auto Center, Tire Kingdom, Goodyear, and rent to own automotive service, Jason now leads technician training, ASE certification preparation, shop safety systems, and service manager development across multiple RNR Tire Express locations.
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Great shops are not built by accident. They are built through training, consistency, accountability, and people who care about both the customer and the team standing beside them. Jason Chui’s approach to leadership at RNR Tire Express shows how operational excellence and customer service can grow together when the culture is built the right way.
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What does it mean to leave a legacy in the rent to own industry?
In this special tribute episode of The RTO Show Podcast, Pete Shau honors the life, leadership, and lasting impact of Ernie Lewallen, a respected RTO operator, APRO leader, industry advocate, and one of the driving forces behind the growth and preservation of the rent to own community.
This episode explores how leadership, advocacy, mentorship, and industry stewardship shaped Ernie’s four decade career with UHR Rents, United Household Rentals, and RNR Tire Express. Through stories from colleagues, industry leaders, and longtime friends, listeners will hear how one individual helped influence legislative advocacy, industry standards, RTO World, and the next generation of rent to own professionals.
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Great industries are built by people willing to lead, mentor, advocate, and protect the future for the next generation. Ernie Lewallen’s story reminds us that leadership is measured not only by business success, but by the relationships built, the standards protected, and the people inspired along the way.
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What does it take to build a lasting legacy in the rent to own industry?
In this episode of The RTO Show Podcast, Pete Shau sits down with David P. David of American Rental and Full-O-Pep to explore more than four decades of entrepreneurship, leadership, industry advocacy, and customer focused growth in the RTO business.
From building rental stores across multiple states to helping shape APRO, TRIB Group, state rental dealer associations, and rent to own legislation, David shares the stories, strategies, and leadership lessons that helped define modern RTO operations.
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David P. David is the longtime leader behind American Rental and Full-O-Pep, two respected names in the rent to own industry. Over the past four decades, he has served in leadership roles with APRO, TRIB Group, the Indiana Rental Dealers Association, and multiple industry advocacy efforts that helped shape the future of rent to own operations and legislation across the United States.
Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned:
• APRO industry advocacy and legislative strategy
• TRIB Group buying power and vendor negotiations
• State rental dealer association development
• Customer retention and ownership focused RTO service
• Rental store acquisition and integration strategies
• Employee culture and long term leadership development
• Customer flexibility and payment recovery practices
• Community outreach and charitable giving programs
Closing Insight:
Long term success in the rent to own industry comes from relationships, consistency, and understanding the people you serve. David David’s story is a reminder that leadership is built over decades through advocacy, mentorship, customer care, and creating opportunities for both employees and communities.
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What does it take to build a multi generation business legacy in the rent to own industry while shaping the future of advocacy, community leadership, and customer service?
In this special RTO Legends episode, Pete Shau sits down with John Cleek Jr. to honor the life and legacy of “Tiger” John Cleek of Cleek’s Home Furnishings. From growing a family owned rent to own business in Missouri to helping build state rental dealer associations across the country, this conversation explores leadership, entrepreneurship, grassroots advocacy, customer relationships, and the power of community impact. Listeners will hear the story behind Cleek’s Home Furnishings, the evolution of the RTO industry, APRO leadership, and the values that continue to drive one of the most respected family businesses in rent to own.
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John Cleek Jr. is the owner and operator of Cleek’s Home Furnishings and a respected leader in the rent to own industry. Following in the footsteps of his father, “Tiger” John Cleek, he continues to lead with a focus on community service, customer relationships, advocacy, and industry leadership across Missouri and beyond.
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Closing Insight:
“Leadership in rent to own is built through service, advocacy, and relationships that last for generations.”
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What keeps someone successful in the rent to own industry for more than three decades?
According to Kevin Silvers, it comes down to relationships, reinvention, consistency, and showing up for people every single day.
In this episode of The RTO Show, Pete Shau sits down with Kevin Silvers of King of Promotions to talk about the evolution of the rent to own industry, vendor partnerships, customer engagement, leadership, and business growth. From caddying for golf legends like Arnold Palmer and Michael Jordan to building long term relationships with Rent A Center, Buddy’s, Showplace, Countryside, and other RTO leaders, Kevin shares lessons on sales psychology, customer retention, promotions, store operations, and the future of rent to own. This episode is packed with stories about entrepreneurship, vendor strategy, reinvention, and what it really takes to thrive in the RTO business.
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Kevin Silvers is a longtime rent to own industry vendor, relationship builder, and co founder of King of Promotions. Over the years, he has worked with major RTO companies across the country while helping stores improve promotions, branding, customer engagement, and operational support through relationship driven business strategies.
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Closing Insight:
“Success in rent to own comes from staying connected to people, learning every day, and continuing to reinvent yourself as the industry evolves.”
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What does it take to build a rent to own business that lasts for 40 years and impacts generations of customers, employees, and industry leaders?
In this special Legends Series episode of The RTO Show, Pete Shau sits down with Mike Tissot to reflect on the life, leadership, and legacy of Darrell Tissot, founder of Countryside Rentals DBA Rent 2 Own.
This conversation explores the evolution of the rent to own industry, customer access, leadership development, small town retail strategy, same store sales growth, mentorship, and the power of relationship driven business. Mike shares how Darrell Tissot helped pioneer modern RTO operations through innovation, employee empowerment, customer service, and community impact while shaping future generations of rent to own operators across the country.
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Mike Tissot is the leader of Countryside Rentals DBA Rent 2 Own and the son of industry pioneer Darrell Tissot. Under Mike’s leadership, the company has continued expanding its customer focused approach while maintaining a culture built on mentorship, innovation, community involvement, and employee development.
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Closing Insight:
“Success in rent to own is built through trust, consistency, mentorship, and a willingness to keep growing alongside your customers and your team.”
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What does it take to build a rent to own company that lasts more than four decades and still feels like a family business?
In this special Legends Series episode of The RTO Show, Pete Shau sits down with Mike Strong, along with Michael Strong and Angela Strong, to explore the growth of Mike’s Rent to Own and the leadership principles that helped shape one of the longest standing independent rent to own businesses in the industry.
From sleeping in the back of the store during the early startup days to expanding into 14 locations across Kansas, this conversation covers entrepreneurship, customer relationships, employee leadership, rent to own operations, APRO advocacy, family business growth, and the future of the RTO industry. Listeners will learn how strong work ethic, community involvement, and customer first service created a lasting legacy in the rent to own space.
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Mike Strong is the founder of Mike’s Rent to Own, one of the longest standing independent rent to own companies in the United States. Alongside his children, Michael Strong and Angela Strong, the family continues expanding the business while helping lead the future of the RTO industry through APRO, KRDA, and community leadership initiatives.
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Closing Insight:
“Treat customers with respect, work hard every day, and never give up. That mindset built a rent to own business that lasted for generations.”
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The RTO Show Podcast is the podcast for the rent-to-own industry, hosted by Pete Shau, an industry insider with more than 20 years of experience in RTO operations, sales, leadership, marketing,…
Each episode brings candid conversations, practical insights, and real stories from the people shaping the RTO community, including operators, vendors, association leaders, store teams, industry veterans, and innovators helping move rent-to-own forward.
Pete’s conversations are built for seasoned veterans, newcomers, owners, managers, vendors, and anyone who wants to learn from the shared experiences, hard-earned lessons, and fresh perspectives inside the rent-to-own industry.
From lead generation, lead management, customer behavior, store traffic, door swings, sales process, collections, training, recruitment, and leadership development to technology, CRM integration, mobile-first shopping, Google ranking, Facebook ads, video marketing, advocacy, APRO, TRIB Group, RTO World, LegCon, and the future of the rent-to-own business model, The RTO Show helps listeners understand what is really happening in RTO.
If you work in RTO, serve the RTO industry, or want to better understand the people, challenges, trends, and opportunities behind rent-to-own, The RTO Show Podcast is your insider’s guide to the industry’s pulse.
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