In this two-part episode series of The Rumors Are True podcast, host Jeremy Gould welcomes all four members of Dighayzoose — Bil Brown, Dave Anderson, Jimmi Florez, and Phil Schlotterer — for an in-depth and entertaining conversation about one of the most inventive and fearless bands to come out of the early ’90s alternative scene.

Across both episodes, the band reflects on their origins in Kansas City, their time on R.E.X. Records, and the creative chaos that fueled albums like StruggleFish and MagentaMantaLoveTree. They share behind-the-scenes stories from recording sessions and touring days, exploring how their genre-bending blend of funk, punk, rock, and art-school experimentation set them apart from their peers.

The discussion also dives into their spiritual and artistic philosophies, the dynamics between band members, and the legacy of Dighayzoose’s wild, uncompromising vision. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering them for the first time, this two-part series is a must-listen for anyone interested in boundary-pushing music and the creative spirit that defined a generation.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredhasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

In this episode of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould sits down with Rob Horner, former bassist for Zao and Gods, to talk about his time in two of the most influential bands in heavy music and the journey that shaped him along the way. Rob reflects on his years with Zao during a pivotal era for the band — a period that helped define the sound and spirit of early metalcore — and shares insights into the writing, touring, and community that surrounded that scene.

The conversation also dives into Rob’s post-Zao project, Gods, exploring how that band grew out of his desire to keep creating meaningful, emotionally honest music. Rob discusses his creative process, the lessons learned from the highs and challenges of life on the road, and what it was like to be part of a scene that still resonates deeply with fans decades later.

With stories about friendship, art, and the evolution of underground heavy music, this episode offers a rare and candid look at one musician’s journey through two important chapters of the genre’s history.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork By Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

In this episode of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould welcomes Mikee Bridges — musician, promoter, and creator of TomFest — to talk about his latest project, TomCon: The Other Music Convention. Mikee shares the inspiration behind this brand-new event happening October 24–25, 2025, at the Crowne Plaza in Costa Mesa, California, and how it aims to bring fans and artists together in a whole new way.

Listeners will hear Mikee reflect on his journey through bands like how decades of experience in the Christian alternative and punk scenes have shaped his vision for TomCon. Unlike a traditional music festival, TomCon is designed as a fan convention — complete with panels, Q&A sessions, artist meet-and-greets, photo ops, and live performances — celebrating the stories and community behind the music.

Throughout the conversation, Mikee talks about the heart behind the event, what attendees can expect from the two-day lineup of over 50 artists and 12 panel discussions, and why Costa Mesa is the perfect home for this gathering of fans, musicians, and scene veterans. Whether you were part of the underground music movement of the ’90s or are discovering it for the first time, this episode dives deep into what makes TomCon a truly one-of-a-kind experience.

For full details, artist announcements, and tickets, visit tomconvention.com.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music By Brian Jerin R.I.P.

On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we welcome Nate Young, drummer of the beloved alternative rock band Anberlin, as well as a driving creative force behind his side project, SUS. Nate takes us through his musical journey, sharing memories from Anberlin’s early days, the band’s rise to international success, and what it’s like to create music that connects deeply with fans across generations. He opens up about the band’s reunion years, how their chemistry has evolved, and the challenges and rewards of balancing life as a touring musician.

We also spend time exploring Nate’s work outside of Anberlin, particularly the artistic vision behind SUS. With this project, he leans into experimentation, crafting soundscapes that allow him to express a different side of his creativity. Nate talks about the freedom of writing and recording in new ways, and how SUS has become an outlet for exploring ideas that don’t always fit within the framework of Anberlin.

This conversation is equal parts nostalgic and forward-looking — offering insight into what it takes to remain passionate about making music over decades, while still pushing into new creative territory. Whether you’re a longtime Anberlin fan or curious to hear about Nate’s newest artistic chapters, this episode is a must-listen.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features a conversation with Chris Higdon, the voice and creative force behind some of the most beloved bands to come out of Louisville, Kentucky, including Elliott, Falling Forward, and his latest project, Mirroless. Chris reflects on the early days of the hardcore and emo scene, tracing how Falling Forward laid the groundwork for Elliott’s expansive and emotionally charged sound that would go on to influence countless bands.

The discussion digs into the stories behind the songs, the friendships and struggles that shaped the music, and what it was like to be part of such a pivotal moment in underground music history. Chris also opens up about his newest work with Mirroless, exploring the ways he continues to challenge himself musically and lyrically. Whether you’ve followed his journey since the ’90s or are just discovering his music, this episode offers an insightful look at the artistry, heart, and longevity of someone who has helped define a genre while always moving forward.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, Kevin Campbell from the band Keepwarm joins the conversation for a deep dive into his musical journey. Kevin opens up about the origins of Keepwarm, what inspired their sound, and how the band found its place in a vibrant underground scene. He reflects on the highs and lows of making music during that time and what it was like to collaborate with the friends who helped bring the project to life.

The discussion also touches on the broader context of the era—how bands like Keepwarm carved out their identity, navigated limited resources, and connected with fans in authentic ways. Kevin shares stories from the road, lessons learned in the DIY world, and how his experiences in Keepwarm continue to shape his outlook on creativity and music today.

Whether you’re a longtime fan of Keepwarm or discovering them for the first time, this episode offers a meaningful look back at a unique chapter of independent music. Kevin’s perspective is equal parts nostalgic and inspiring, making it a conversation worth tuning into for anyone who appreciates the passion behind building music that matters.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Stephen Williams, known for his work with the band Jude Moses as well as playing alongside John Mark McMillan. Stephen shares stories from his journey in music, reflecting on his time creating with Jude Moses and how the band developed its unique sound, as well as his experiences touring and collaborating with McMillan. His perspective offers listeners a glimpse into both the creative process and the realities of being part of two different but deeply impactful musical worlds.

In this conversation, Stephen dives into the themes of artistry, community, and the balance between personal expression and collaboration. Whether discussing songwriting, life on the road, or the moments that have shaped his path, his reflections highlight the ways music continues to inspire and connect people. Fans of Jude Moses, John Mark McMillan, or anyone who enjoys hearing the stories behind the music will find this episode full of insight and inspiration.

Produce By Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Dan Koch, known for his work in Sherwood, Havana Swim Club, and as the host of multiple thoughtful podcasts including You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Dan shares stories from his journey in the music world, from his time as guitarist and songwriter in Sherwood to his newer creative explorations in electronic music and production with Havana Swim Club. Along the way, he reflects on how his experiences in the industry have shaped his perspective as both a musician and a creator of meaningful conversations.

Beyond the music, the episode dives into Dan’s passion for podcasts and the unique space he’s built through shows like You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Listeners will get a deeper look at how he bridges creativity, curiosity, and connection across mediums—whether through a catchy melody, a textured beat, or an engaging discussion. It’s an inspiring conversation that highlights Dan’s versatility and his commitment to exploring both art and ideas.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we’re joined by Dave Swanson, best known for his work with Life In Your Way and The Frozen Ocean. Dave shares stories from his time in the Connecticut hardcore/metalcore scene and how Life In Your Way grew to become a band that blended heavy music with heartfelt and faith-driven lyrics. He reflects on the unique journey of the band, their impact within the scene, and what it was like to be part of a community that emphasized passion and authenticity as much as the music itself.

The conversation also dives into his later project, The Frozen Ocean, where Dave explored a more atmospheric and expansive sound that showcased another side of his creativity. He opens up about the transition from the intensity of hardcore to more melodic and ambient songwriting, and how those experiences shaped him both musically and personally. Fans of his bands and those curious about the evolution of underground music will enjoy this deep dive into Dave’s story, his creative process, and the lasting connections that music has built along the way.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features an in-depth conversation with Ben Crist, the voice and songwriter of The Glorious Unseen. Known for crafting raw, atmospheric worship music that spoke to a generation hungry for honesty, Ben shares the story of how the band came together and the heart behind their deeply emotional songs. He talks about the unique balance of creating music that felt authentic both as worship and as art, as well as the challenges of navigating faith, creativity, and personal struggles along the way.

The episode also highlights the impact of their standout releases, including Tonight the Stars Speak and The Hope That Lies in You, albums that gave us unforgettable songs like “Hear Our Prayers,” “Meet Me Where I’m At,” and “Burn in Me.” Ben reflects on what inspired much of this music, the ways it connected with listeners in raw and vulnerable moments, and the lasting influence The Glorious Unseen continues to carry today. Fans of heartfelt storytelling and those who found solace in the band’s music will enjoy hearing Ben’s reflections, behind-the-scenes insights, and thoughts on where life and music have taken him since.

Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes

Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser

Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.