We discuss the misconceptions surrounding "toxic masculinity" and emphasize the positive roles men play in society. Dr. Morse shares insights on gender roles, the impact of societal changes on marriage and family, and the educational challenges facing men today. Tune in to understand how embracing the complementary nature of men and women can lead to a more balanced and supportive community.

Amanda Smith lived as a lesbian for 12 years. She dressed like a man, dated feminine women, and was convinced God had made her that way. Then, alone in a new city with nothing but a Bible her mom had given her, everything changed. Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse sits down with Amanda Smith, a staff missionary with Desert Stream Living Waters, to talk about the journey out of a lesbian identity, the real contributing factors behind same-sex attraction, and what the Church gets right — and wrong — when walking alongside people in sexual and relational brokenness.

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⏱️ CHAPTERS 00:00 — Cold open 00:30 — Intro 00:53 — Amanda's role at Desert Stream 01:17 — The mission: equipping the Church 01:41 — What sexual brokenness includes 02:04 — Not just an ex-gay ministry 02:43 — Not therapy — lay-driven discipleship 03:06 — vs. 12-step programs 03:50 — The group dynamic 04:11 — Amanda's story begins 04:34 — Her father, her mother, and a difficult bond 05:10 — The vow: "to be female is to be weak" 05:54 — Age 15: first same-sex experience 06:19 — "I found my true self" 06:47 — 12 years living as a man 07:13 — The breakup, the move, God's isolation 07:34 — Dreams of burning in hell 07:54 — The Bible on the shelf 08:15 — She picks it up 08:50 — Heart of flesh: no Bible verse needed 09:33 — Baptized in men's clothing 09:57 — Her upbringing — was she Christian? 11:17 — Skeptics: "you were brainwashed" 11:52 — Born this way? Then vs. now 12:39 — No gay gene: Science Magazine 2019 13:39 — Ruth Institute's free report 14:30 — The born-gay myth traps people 15:33 — "God is love and this is love" 16:52 — Was therapy involved? 17:47 — Five SSA-free years — then it came back 18:28 — Why God gave her a reprieve 19:12 — Attachment therapy: grief over her mother 19:42 — Therapy reduced SSA — unexpectedly 21:14 — "Contributing factors" explained 22:07 — Three circles of development 23:22 — Missing same-sex peer identification 24:16 — Taking responsibility for your response 25:09 — Early sexualization as a factor 25:59 — What this means for schools 27:08 — Was it conversion therapy? No. 28:20 — Wanting faithfulness — transformation followed 29:23 — Born-gay myth blocks healing 30:04 — SSA is one of many relational wounds 30:44 — "I longed for nurture from my mom" 32:29 — What helped and what hurt 33:17 — Mom's words: "You'll always be my baby girl" 33:57 — What didn't help: debate without relationship 34:32 — 10 years at Desert Stream 34:55 — 25% of participants have SSA as primary issue 35:18 — Same tools heal different wounds 35:45 — SSA is not an ethnicity 37:38 — Married June 1st, 2024 38:25 — Dr. Morse: 40 years of marriage 40:28 — The Living Waters program 40:48 — Cross Current vs. Living Waters 41:09 — Worship, teaching, testimony, prayer 41:37 — Meeting Jesus in your shame 42:09 — God's compassion toward sinners 42:57 — In-person; Cross Current online quarterly 43:17 — Catholic, Protestant, evangelical — 18+ 44:14 — Advice for parents 44:32 — Be attuned; bring corrective experiences 45:23 — Repairing 50% of the time is enough 45:46 — Don't force a child into therapy 46:31 — The truth about conversion therapy stories 47:40 — Counseling freedom 48:38 — Love your spouse — you can't go wrong 49:24 — Healthy female friendships changed everything 50:09 — Emotional dependency: signs and the dance 50:36 — Real friendships take time 51:46 — 10 years in KC — friendships and a husband 52:23 — Website and how to reach Amanda

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What happens when a woman takes the abortion pill, but then changes her mind? Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse sits down with Dr. George Delgado, the pioneer of Abortion Pill Reversal (APR), hotline nurse Debbie Bradel, and Cynthia and Jyale Michel, a couple whose 15-year-old son is alive today because of the APR protocol.

You'll hear the science behind reversal, the story of the very first case, how abortion clinics lie to women who call back wanting to stop the abortion process, and how two parents chose life under pressure and have never looked back.

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⏱️ CHAPTERS 00:00 — Cynthia and Jyale's story 00:38 — Guest introductions 01:04 — What is mifepristone? How does the abortion pill work? 02:42 — What is Abortion Pill Reversal? 05:34 — The very first APR case 07:25 — Why progesterone is not experimental 07:51 — Cynthia's story 10:59 — Jyale's story 15:33 — Safety concerns and birth defect claims debunked 19:17 — What is the Medical Abortion Complex? 25:20 — The Casey decision and contraceptive ideology 34:04 — How the APR hotline network was built 35:18 — Nurse Debbie Bradel: the first hotline nurse 41:51 — The 72-hour window and the emotional reality of that first call 44:24 — The Colorado $6.1M settlement 46:26 — The Creinin study: what happened 52:21 — When reversal doesn't succeed: the peace that comes from trying 58:13 — Jyale's testimony on manhood and fatherhood 01:03:27 — Has the culture of death emasculated men? 01:06:28 — Nurse Debbie: chastity is the real answer 01:09:35 — APR vs. CPR: the numbers 01:11:04 — The book: Cynthia's and Jyale's chapters 01:12:25 — How to find Dr. Delgado and the Steno Institute

📚 Abortion Pill Reversal: A Second Chance at Choice — Dr. George Delgado (Ignatius Press, 2025) 👉 https://stenoinstitute.org

👤 GUESTS DR. GEORGE DELGADO, M.D. — President of Steno Institute, pioneer of the Abortion Pill Reversal protocol, founder of the original APR Network (2012), and Medical Director of Culture of Life Family Services in San Diego. Board certified in family medicine and hospice/palliative medicine. Author of Abortion Pill Reversal: A Second Chance at Choice (Ignatius Press, 2025). Recipient of the Proudly Pro-Life Award from National Right to Life (June 2026), whose past recipients include St. John Paul II and St. Teresa of Kolkata. 🌐 https://stenoinstitute.org | https://aaplog.org

DEBBIE BRADEL, RN — One of the original nurses on the Abortion Pill Rescue® Network hotline. She worked directly with Dr. Delgado building the international physician database and training hotline nurses. Now retired from women's health nursing, she provides doula services at a local maternity home and serves as a FEMM instructor and Diocesan Marriage Prep leader.

CYNTHIA & JYALE MICHEL — A Catholic couple from San Diego whose son is alive today because of APR. Cynthia is a legal contracts manager and SDSU graduate. Jyale is a field service engineer and father of three. Both contributed chapters to Dr. Delgado's book.

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Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse of the Ruth Institute sits down with Catholic philosopher and bestselling author Dr. Carrie Gress to discuss her powerful new book, Something Wicked: Why Feminism Can't Be Fused with Christianity (Sophia Institute Press, 2026).

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Dr. Gress and Dr. Morse explore how feminism functions as a "shadow church" — mimicking Christianity's structure while replacing faith, hope, and love with contempt, rage, and envy.

They trace the movement's occult roots, its Marxist DNA, its manipulation of women's emotions going back to the 1890s, and why corporate America has always been its silent ally.

Topics covered: — Why feminism and Christianity have fundamentally incompatible DNA — The shadow church model: contempt, rage & envy vs. faith, hope & love — The occult involvement of early suffragette leaders (Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Victoria Woodhull) — Feminism's Marxist roots and the "perpetual enemy" strategy — Why corporate America loves feminism — John Paul II and the "Catholic feminism" trap — The Virgin Mary as the true model of womanhood — Dr. Hannah Spier's work on feminist psychology and self-destructive life scripts

Join Dr. Jennifer Roback-Morse as she delves into the heart of motherhood and its irreplaceable role in shaping society. Through personal stories and insightful analysis, discover why being present for your children is the ultimate achievement. Explore the cultural shifts challenging family values and learn how to stand firm in preserving the essence of motherhood and fatherhood. This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about defending the family and understanding the profound impact of parental love.

Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse of the Ruth Institute reveals how international aid and U.S. policies are fueling the sexual revolution abroad. This episode uncovers the hidden agendas behind organizations like USAID, showing how taxpayer dollars promote controversial ideologies in conservative countries. Discover the strategic use of funds as tools of ideological imperialism, impacting education and family values globally. Perfect for those concerned about morality and sovereignty, this episode is a wake-up call to the real power plays shaping our world.

Most people underestimate just how deeply the Southern Poverty Law Center influences the political and social landscape — until now. In this eye-opening episode, Jennifer Roback Morris exposes shocking allegations: billions in offshore bank accounts, orchestrated violent events, and the SPLC's disturbing role in censoring and financially damaging genuine conservative and Christian organizations. This is a behind-the-scenes look at a supposed civil rights organization gone rogue, with potential criminal charges on the horizon.

You'll discover: how the SPLC's financial dealings raise serious questions about transparency and intent, including links to offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands worth nearly a billion dollars. We break down how their controversial tactics—using informants and orchestrating violent protests—have fueled violence, distorted public perception, and unjustly targeted innocent groups like the Ruth Institute. Jennifer shares insights into the consequences of being wrongly labeled a hate group, from losing credit card processing to being blocked from monetizing YouTube channels—actions that threaten free expression and Christian advocacy.

You'll also learn about the recent legal developments: federal charges in Alabama, the potential for indictments, and what this could mean for the future of organizations like the SPLC. Jennifer discusses whether this is a turning point for conservative voices, and how corporate America's stance might shift as transparency and accountability come to the forefront. This episode offers urgent clarity for anyone concerned about free speech, religious liberty, and the abuse of power by big NGOs.

In this emotional episode, Dr. Jennifer Roback-Morris shares how she's celebrated her daughter's touching tribute, revealing what truly matters to children: presence, love, and faith. You'll discover why the sacrifices of motherhood are often invisible but irreplaceable, and how these quiet moments forge lifelong bonds in a way no career achievement can match. We break down compelling insights on how modern culture undervalues traditional motherhood, including the dangerous shift toward gender-neutral language and the legal redefinition of family that threatens our understanding of what it means to parent.

Dr. Mores discusses the spiritual and societal consequences of eroding the language and institutions that nurture children — and why protecting the reality of mother and father is more critical than ever. With heartfelt stories from her own life, Dr. Jennifer Roback-Morse emphasizes that the best years of her life were spent loving her children at home — not in academic or professional pursuits. She advocates for women to cherish the opportunity to nurture, teach, and simply be there, because children only get one childhood, and their need for their mother's presence is irreplaceable.

In this in-depth conversation, Dr. Jennifer Roback-Morse explores the sociological, psychological, and theological dimensions of modern family issues, marriage, and sexuality. As a representative of the Ruth Institute, she provides data-driven insights and challenges prevailing narratives around gender, sexuality, and reproductive technologies, advocating for a return to traditional human and family values.

• The role of modern social science in understanding family and sexuality
• The myths and realities surrounding sexual orientation and gender identity
• The impact of childhood experiences and abuse on sexual development
• Legal and ethical considerations of conversion therapy and transgender treatments
• The societal and economic consequences of family breakdowns
• The importance of the natural family structure for societal stability
• Critical view of surrogacy and reproductive technologies
• The spiritual implications of manipulating human life and sexuality

This episode dives into recent legal battles, including the Supreme Court's landmark decision affirming therapists' right to help clients reconcile their feelings with their faith. We explore the dangerous parallels to other cultural issues like abortion and transgender rights, revealing how the push to silence dissent is less about science and more about imposing a restrictive moral order. Father Sullins discusses studies demonstrating that those who undergo efforts to diminish unwanted attractions often experience psychological benefits, including reduced suicidality, contrary to mainstream claims.

You'll discover: how scientific data, from reputable studies by Diamond, Spitzer, and others, proves that change is possible and common; the real history of how therapy for unwanted same-sex attraction was eliminated from mental health guidelines; and how current laws threaten the freedom of religious and mental health professionals to serve their clients ethically. This is essential listening for anyone concerned about the growing suppression of what science and morality actually say about human sexuality—and why preserving the right to help those who want it is a moral imperative.