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  • 152 Who Are You?

    What happens when a mom-band sits down and asks the really weird questions? This episode of The Setlist of Life spirals beautifully from cows predicting rain, to Lizzie Borden nostalgia, to the single question that might change how you think about meaning and risk.

    Featuring Aaron (guitars), Christine (drums), Kirsten (keyboards), and Leslie (vocals), the crew tackles eight life-altering envelopes: knowing your death date, future net worth, who betrayed you, who truly loves you, the risk worth taking, what happens after death, and the meaning of your life. Their answers—and the thinking behind them—reveal why trust matters more than comfort, and why one specific friendship test predicts who survives horror movies.

    Along the way, they rank each other as bread types, debate sandwich geometry with surprising passion, and discover that their childhood selves chose names (Tabitha, Anne, Farah) that still hold power decades later. There's wisdom about grandparent names, therapy breakthroughs, and why a book about a guy and his cat fighting turkeys in a dungeon has 74 library holds.

    This is the kind of conversation that feels like hanging with friends who actually think about life—not just move through it.

    For: Creative people balancing family and art. Music lovers. Anyone who's ever chosen the wrong envelope. Gen X nostalgia + millennial parenting + Gen Z reinvention = real talk, no script.

    🎵 THE SETLIST0:02 – Track 1: Welcome to the Band [Intro & "Who Are You" Vibe]
    0:35 – Track 2: The Cows Are Lying Down – Rural Myths That Stick With You
    2:14 – Track 3: Keeping a Cow Journal – Why Animals Know What We Don't
    4:15 – Track 4: Casey's Gift from Home [Delallo's Italian Market & Small-Town Roots]
    6:32 – Track 5: The Lizzie Borden Spiral [Why We're Obsessed With True Crime Icons]
    8:38 – Track 6: Bewitched & Samantha's Nose [80s TV Magic & Childhood Names]
    10:57 – Track 7: The Names We Chose As Kids (Tabitha, Anne, Farah, Eric)
    12:55 – Track 8: Why Christine Was Always a Single Mom [Barbie Dolls & Life Predictions]
    15:00 – Track 9: Ranking the Unranked [Who's Hardest to Explain to an Alien?]
    16:03 – Track 10: The Bread Test – What Bread Would You Be? [Crunchy vs. Soft Personalities]
    17:46 – Track 11: The Accidental Wave [Social Anxiety & Mistaken Friendliness]
    19:50 – Track 12: Who Conducts Electricity? [Finding Your Superpower in the Band]
    21:49 – Track 13: Horror Movie Survival [Why Aaron Would Live & Who Gets Eliminated First]
    23:50 – Track 14: The Great Chicken Fight [How Many Can You Really Take On?]
    26:06 – Track 15: Dungeon Crawler Carl & The Turkey Boss [Why This Book Has 74 Library Holds]
    28:28 – Track 16: Would You Trade a Limb for an Animal Part? [Evolution, Superpowers & Fish Tails]
    30:35 – Track 17: The One Song You Hate (Even Though Everyone Loves It) [Celine Dion, Cheryl Crow & Taste]
    32:56 – Track 18: Madonna at the VMAs – Still Reinventing or Just Aging? [Celebrity, Relevance & Earned Authority]
    35:06 – Track 19: THE ENVELOPE QUESTION [8 Life Truths – Which One Would You Choose?]
    39:45 – Track 20: What Envelope Would You Open? [Meaning, Risk, Trust & Betrayal]
    42:03 – Track 21: Do You Know Who Loves You? [The Therapy Breakthrough Moment]
    46:10 – Track 22: Steve from Blue's Clues – Taking the Risk Worth Taking [Finding Your Purpose Later]
    48:18 – Track 23: LIGHTNING ROUND – Cereal, Ice Cream & Life Choices
    50:37 – Track 24: Your Signature Ben & Jerry's Flavor [What You Love vs. What Represents You]
    52:54 – Track 25: Three Apps Left – Which Would You Keep? [Digital Priorities & Real Needs]
    55:17 – Track 26: Sandwich Geometry: Triangle or Rectangle? [Unexpected Passion Points]
    57:22 – Track 27: How Organized Is Your Grocery Belt? [Order, Cleanliness & Control]
    59:42 – Track 28: Unread Emails & Inbox Chaos [Personality Revealed]
    01:01:16 – Track 29: Better Cold the Next Day [Lasagna, Pumpkin Pie & Food Wisdom]
    01:03:07 – Track 30: The 13th Month [Creativity & Naming Things That Matter]
    01:05:27 – Track 31: Your Stage Name, Your Alter Ego [Who Would You Be on Spotify?]
    01:07:12 – Track 32: Grandma Names & Generational Memory [Bubba, Dzedo, & What Comes Next]
    01:11:01 – Track 33: And That's The Setlist [Sign-Off]

    🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM

    "Your band's strongest player isn't the one who never makes mistakes—it's the one who shows up for the weird questions, owns their fear of horror movies, and brings the snacks from home."

    1. "What should you do if you find out someone betrayed you? Trust issues and moving forward"
    2. "How do you know what your life purpose really is? Finding meaning after 40"
    3. "Why do cows lie down before it rains? Old wives tales that might be true"
    4. "Weird questions to ask friends that reveal personality – conversation starters for groups"
    5. "Do you trust your friends? How to build a real band or creative group"


    1 hr 13 min
  • 151 Friends

    In this episode of Setlist of Life, band members Aaron (guitar), Kirsten (keys), and Christine (drums) are joined by college roommate Neepa, who traveled from North Carolina just to hang out. That kind of friendship is what this conversation is really about.

    We dive deep into what made college friendships actually stick in the pre-internet era: random roommate assignments, phone booth closets, dorm doors left wide open, and the "seven-minute conversation dip" rule that somehow made you closer. Christine and Neepa share 40 years of history, and their story challenges every assumption about how modern college students form bonds—especially now, when dorm doors stay closed and everyone's on their phones.

    We also talk about parenting in the digital age, why kids today struggle to socialize the way we did, and why Rob Thomas is legitimately one of the best live performers. Plus, the band plays a rousing game of Mount Cleverest—trivia that covers everything from fingerprint science and Viking funerals to the real cost of fueling a jumbo jet.

    There's also the legendary "Screwed Campus" prank, microwaved Thanksgiving turkey, and Aaron's surprisingly extensive plant collection (50+ plants). Leslie is home sick—we miss her—but her absence highlights just how important these friendships are.

    Perfect for: Gen X nostalgia lovers, musicians balancing family life, anyone curious about why their college friendships (or lack thereof) shaped their adult lives, and trivia enthusiasts.

    "THE SETLIST" 0:00 – Track [0]: Welcome to Setlist of Life — Friends & Bandmates Reunite
    1:45 – Track [1]: "Never Surrender" & Corey Hart: Why '80s Icons Still Matter
    3:45 – Track [2]: What Makes Matchbox 20 Different? The Rob Thomas Effect
    5:53 – Track [3]: How Random Dorm Assignments Created 40-Year Friendships
    8:04 – Track [4]: The "Seven-Minute Conversation Dip" — Gen X Icebreaker Wisdom
    10:10 – Track [5]: No Rooms Left: The Housing Lottery Story That Changed Everything
    12:07 – Track [6]: Tiny Phone Booths & Notepad Hooks — How We Communicated Before Texts
    14:15 – Track [7]: Why Kids Today Don't Hang Out in Hallways (And Why That's Creepy)
    16:29 – Track [8]: The Dorm Room That Time Forgot: Massive Spaces vs. Tiny Boxes
    18:45 – Track [9]: "We Screwed Campus" — The Prank That Became a Memory
    20:53 – Track [10]: Friendsgiving Before It Was a Trend: Parties with Personality
    23:11 – Track [11]: The Turkey We Made in a Microwave (And Why It Actually Worked)
    25:13 – Track [12]: "Neepa Wants It" Invitation Card: Why Mailbox Surprises Mattered
    27:10 – Track [13]: Aaron's Green Thumb — 50+ Plants While Everyone Else Aspires
    29:03 – Track [14]: Blue Stars Are Hotter Than Red Ones: Trivia That Surprises
    31:47 – Track [15]: Do Identical Twins Share Fingerprints? The Biology Answer Box
    33:50 – Track [16]: Viking Funerals & Space Camp Stories: Fact vs. Fiction
    37:19 – Track [17]: Hagendaaz: Marketing Genius or Scandinavian Scam?
    39:13 – Track [18]: Serena & Venus Williams: Grand Slams (Not 12)
    41:02 – Track [19]: Why the South Pole is Actually Colder Than the North
    43:14 – Track [20]: How Much Does a Cloud Really Weigh? The Physics Surprise
    45:32 – Track [21]: Superman's Original Creators Got $130 — Intellectual Property Reality
    47:43 – Track [22]: New York's Real Origin Story: From New Amsterdam to Empire
    50:00 – Track [23]: Blue Whale Heartbeats Heard 2 Miles Away — Myth or Ocean Fact?
    51:32 – Track [24]: Pokemon Cards, Adult Dealers & the Nostalgia Economy
    53:44 – Track [25]: Birthday Paradox: Why Your Class Reunion Wasn't Random
    55:37 – Track [26]: Greta Thunberg vs. Malala: Who Actually Won the Nobel Prize?
    57:23 – Track [27]: Jumbo Jet Fuel Costs $120K to Fill — Why Aviation Margins Matter
    59:33 – Track [28]: Great Wall of China Visibility Myth: What Astronauts Actually See
    01:01:29 – Track [29]: Stonehenge Took 1,500 Years? The Real Timeline
    01:03:48 – Track [30]: The Lightning Strike Survivor: Roy Sullivan's 7-Hit Record
    01:05:35 – Track [31]: Hiking Bears Den & Ravens Rock — Virginia Trail Guide
    01:07:52 – Track [32]: Keeping Friendships Alive: Leslie's Absence & What We're Missing

    🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM


    "Friendships that last 40 years weren't built on perfect communication—they were built on boring proximity and the willingness to show up anyway. That's parenting, marriage, and music all at once."


    1. "How do college friendships last 40 years? Real stories from Gen X"
    2. "Why Gen Z kids don't socialize like college students did in the '80s and '90s"
    3. "What was it really like living in college dorms before the internet?"
    4. "Matchbox 20 Rob Thomas live: why he's an unforgettable performer"
    5. "Why don't college dorms have dorm life like they used to? Open doors, community spaces"


    1 hr 11 min
  • 150 Eat It

    The Setlist of Life celebrates 150 episodes with a deep dive into taste perception, cultural food experiments, and the psychology of risk—all while the band members taste their way through an international snack buffet.

    What Happens:

    • Flavor Pairing Game: The band discovers that lemon + cinnamon = Coca-Cola, and how human brains predict taste before taste buds activate
    • International Spreads Tour: From German slaw-based Slawsa to Turkish pistachio cream, the group decodes what makes foods iconic in their cultures
    • The Vegemite Moment: A unflinching taste test reveals why Australian yeast extract feels like "sucking on metallic pennies"—and whether cultural conditioning overrides flavor chemistry
    • Risk & Decision-Making: Leslie connects food experiments to bigger life patterns—why runners flood half marathons, why neighbors bike through swollen creeks, and how humans rationalize danger
    • Geographic Tongue Discovery: A casual revelation about fissured tongues triggers a deeper conversation about body variance, taste sensitivity, and medical literacy

    Broader Themes:

    The episode weaves together nostalgia (Necco Wafers, Arrow Bars), parenting wisdom (homemade dog food, supervising risk), and the unspoken contract of creative collaboration. Why do people keep showing up to make music together? Why do bands last? Leslie reflects on loyalty, playfulness, and the unexpected moments that make a 150-episode run meaningful.

    The Setlist: 0:00 – Track 1: The 150th Episode Welcome & Band Dynamics
    Why Creative Collaborators Keep Coming Back
    2:28 – Track 2: The Flavor Perception Game
    How Your Brain Predicts Taste Before Your Tongue Does
    10:51 – Track 3: Mail & Gratitude Moments
    Why a Podcast Game Changed a Family's Vacation (First to Worst Impact Story)
    13:12 – Track 4: International Chip Blind Taste Test
    Honey Butter vs. Barbecue: What Your Snack Preference Says About You
    17:33 – Track 5: The Tikka Masala Lamb Verdict
    Why Unexpected Food Combinations Are Less Risky Than You Think
    21:36 – Track 6: The Vegemite Experiment (And Why Australians Love It)
    What Metallic, Salty Foods Reveal About Cultural Taste Adaptation
    25:19 – Track 7: Leslie's Pilates Truth Bomb
    The Dad Who Mows Barefoot: Risk Assessment in Everyday Life
    29:38 – Track 8: Spreads Around the World
    How German Slaw Slaw & Turkish Pistachio Cream Challenge American Palates
    35:25 – Track 9: The Nostalgic Candy Test
    Why Arrow Bars & Necco Wafers Taste Better (or Worse) in Memory
    43:34 – Track 10: The Flavor Pairing Science
    Lemon + Cinnamon = Coke? Why Taste Synergy Works (or Fails Spectacularly)
    47:12 – Track 11: The Amazing Race Water Slide Ethics Debate
    When Contestants Quit: Fear, Accountability, and Signed-Up Consequences
    51:19 – Track 12: Geographic Tongue Revelation
    What Your Tongue's Topography Says About How You Taste Food
    56:52 – Track 13: Dog Food, 400 Degrees, and Marketing Lies
    Why Pet Nutrition Companies Misuse Science (and What Homemade Dog Food Actually Requires)
    1:03:08 – Track 14: The Flooded Half Marathon Decision
    Why 250 Runners Chose Chest-Deep Water Over Cancellation (and What It Costs)
    1:09:01 – Track 15: The Neighbor Who Defied Physics
    Why Some People Live Without Fear (and Why Their Kids Still Survived)
    1:15:02 – Track 16: Pilates, Abs, and the New Studio Dilemma
    Why Exercise Classes Trigger Complex Friendship Dynamics
    1:21:52 – Track 17: Lola's Lamb & The Podcast Wrap
    150 Episodes: What It Means to Show Up, Mess Up, and Keep Playing

    🎸 Backstage Wisdom

    "We've played 150 gigs in this living room because we stopped expecting it to be perfect—the chewing sounds, the digression, the dog eating lamb backstage. Turns out, that's what people actually need to hear."


    1. "What foods taste like other foods when combined? Weird flavor pairing experiments"
    2. "Why do people hate Vegemite? What does it actually taste like?"
    3. "Can you actually make dog food at home? How to cook dog food safely"
    4. "How do you know if a half marathon is too dangerous to run? Flood safety decisions"
    5. "What is geographic tongue? Do I have it? Why do some people have textured tongues?"
    1 hr 26 min
  • 149 Thank You
    On this episode of The Setlist of Life, the band sits down to explore how small daily practices reshape your entire outlook—and why your garden might be staging a tiny bug war right now.
    Main Topics:
    Christine's sharing her gratitude journaling journey and the science behind morning pages (Julia Cameron's technique). Leslie reveals how one mom-to-kid conversation flipped the script on anxiety: instead of lecturing, she asked hes son to find one good thing. Spoiler: it works.
    Then Leslie takes us deep into her crepe myrtle drama. Scale insects are sucking the life out of her tree, but minute pirate bugs (yes, that's a real thing) are mounting a counter-offensive. Except the ants showed up to protect the scale's sweet sap. It's a three-way garden battle—and Leslie is winning/losing.
    The crew also digs into Led Zeppelin's "Thank You," reviews the *Becoming Led Zeppelin* documentary, and plays multiple rounds of **Mount Cleverest Trivia**—uncovering wild truths about fleas, hiccups, ancient alphabets, and why Disney World is nearly twice the size of Manhattan.
    Why This Episode Resonates:
    Real band members balancing creative identity, parenting, family life, and unexpected hobbies. If you're a musician who gardens, a parent struggling with your kid's anxiety, or someone who loves weird trivia and 80s nostalgia, this conversation hits different.
    Themes: Gratitude practices, parenting reframes, organic gardening solutions, music discovery, regional dialect, and the joy of learning random facts.
    🎵 THE SETLIST00:02 – Track [1]: Welcome to Gratitude Season: Why Christine Is on a
    Journaling Journey (The Wellness Reset)
    04:37 – Track [2]: The Mom Reframe: How One Conversation Changed
    How I See My Kid's Anxiety (Parenting with Presence)
    06:40 – Track [3]: Morning Pages vs. Phone Doom: What Julia Cameron
    Knew About Starting Your Day Right
    08:50 – Track [4]: Deep Dive: Led Zeppelin's "Thank You" & Why
    Documentaries Matter More Than You Think
    13:17 – Track [5]: A Mom's Truth: Why I Can't
    See My Own Rear End (Self-Awareness, Humor & Marriage)
    15:13 – Track [6]: Garden War Decoded: Scale Insects vs. Minute Pirate
    Bugs (Nature's Pest Control Battle)
    19:31 – Track [7]: The Ant Uprising: When Helpers Become the Problem
    (Systems Thinking in Your Backyard)
    21:57 – Track [8]: How Horticulture School Teaches You to Read Nature
    (Transferable Life Wisdom)
    23:54 – Track [9]: Regional Dialect Deep Dive: Why Your Grandma Says
    "Drawers" (Linguistics & Identity)
    28:21 – Track [10]: Mount Cleverest Trivia: Fleas, Pigs & the Physics
    of Impossible Jumps
    33:17 – Track [11]: The Leaning Tower & Bad Architects: When Engineering
    Fails (And Why We Love It Anyway)
    35:23 – Track [12]: Parker Solar Probe > Bullets: Why Space Changes
    Everything (Perspective Shift)
    38:48 – Track [13]: Charles Osbourne's 68-Year Hiccup: Medical Mysteries
    That Make You Grateful
    41:10 – Track [14]: Heart-Shaped Rocks & Scavenger Hunts
    (Finding Magic in Your Own Backyard)
    44:00 – Track [15]: Throwing Baby Teeth on Greek Roofs vs. Keeping Them
    in Boxes (Cultural Rituals & Memory)
    46:18 – Track [16]: Why Redheads Were Called Redheads (The Ginger Truth:
    Old English Had No Word for Orange)
    48:34 – Track [17]: IKEA Isn't an Acronym (And Why We Make Up Answers)
    50:47 – Track [18]: Barbie's Real Name & What the 1959 Doll Says About
    Motherhood
    52:51 – Track [19]: Why "J" Is Newer Than "Z" (The Alphabet Wasn't Always
    Alphabetical)
    54:38 – Track [20]: Disney World Is Twice the Size of Manhattan: What That
    Means for Your Visit
    58:27 – Track [21]: Usain Bolt vs. Cheetah: 100-Meter Myths Debunked
    1:02:22 – Track [22]: Planning Episode 150: Food Combos, Documentaries &
    Murder Mystery Rabbit Holes
    🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM
    "Your garden's a mirror of your marriage: two systems fighting over the same resources, and the ants always show up uninvited. Water both with intention—or expect chaos."
    "How does gratitude journaling actually change your brain science"
    "Why do parents struggle to get kids to find the positive"
    "What garden bugs eat scale insects naturally"
    "Led Zeppelin Thank You documentary Becoming Led Zeppelin"
    "Regional accent words Americans pronounce differently"


    1 hr 8 min
  • 148 I Will Always Love You

    In this episode, the bandmates of Dolly for Sue honor Dolly Parton's legacy, acknowledge a past research mishap with humor and grace, and dive into the "Music Reposition Game" — a creative exercise that asks: If you remixed this song into a different genre or context, what would it become?

    The crew rates classic artists from Pink Floyd to The Police, Adam Ant to Pink, exploring why liking a band doesn't always mean loving their music. They wrestle with generational taste, discuss why your kids reject your favorite songs, and uncover surprising truths about nostalgia, influence, and artistic reinvention.

    In between, they share stories from the Iowa State Fair — 130,000 people, pork chops on sticks, and hot tub salesmen who view the fair as their Super Bowl. They tour childhood homes, laugh at cemetery mishaps, and grapple with identity shifts as a band in their fifties.

    Key Themes:

    • Music appreciation as emotional intelligence
    • How creatives navigate family life and aging
    • Authentic error-correction in podcasting
    • The joy of reinvention and "second acts"
    • Why analog nostalgia still matters in 2026


    Perfect for: musicians, podcast fans, Gen X listeners seeking depth without gatekeeping, parents navigating creative identity with kids.

    "THE SETLIST"00:02 – Track 1: The Dolly Parton Tribute & Why One Person Changed Everything
    02:23 – Track 2: Apologies & Corrections — What Happens When You Get Your Research Wrong
    04:07 – Track 3: How Listeners Keep Podcasters Honest (And Why That Matters)
    06:24 – Track 4: The Iowa State Fair Road Trip — 130,000 People & One Unforgettable Uber Driver
    08:31 – Track 5: Weird Fair Food & Why You Never Eat As Much As You Plan
    10:53 – Track 6: The Hot Tub Sales Guys Know Something You Don't
    13:13 – Track 7: Family Traditions & Cemetery Day Laughs (A Slab-Happy Sidebar)
    17:40 – Track 8: How to Get the Wrong T-Shirt Size & Still Love It (Graziano's Story)
    19:38 – Track 9: Scooping the Loop — What Gen X Did Before Smartphones
    21:55 – Track 10: The Music Reposition Game — Reimagining Classic Rock & 80s Pop
    26:17 – Track 11: Pink Floyd's Dark Side — Why Moods Matter More Than Melody
    28:28 – Track 12: Can You Use Pink Floyd in a Commercial? (And What Would It Sell?)
    30:46 – Track 13: Jack & Diane Hate — Why Your Kid Might Reject Your Favorite Song
    32:42 – Track 14: Measuring Your Vibe — The 1–5 Scale for Life's Soundtrack
    34:19 – Track 15: Pink (the Artist) — Why Incredible Talent Doesn't Always Equal Your Genre
    36:25 – Track 16: The Police Reunion Nobody Saw Coming (And Why Sting Went Solo)
    38:27 – Track 17: Disturbed's "Sound of Silence" — When Heavy Metal Saves a Simon & Garfunkel Classic
    42:31 – Track 18: Max Headroom & the 80s Synth Pop Mystery
    44:48 – Track 19: Will 80s Synth Pop Come Back? (Spoiler: It Already Has)
    48:26 – Track 20: Adam Ant at 72 — Why Your Favorite 80s Idols Still Tour
    50:03 – Track 21: Goody Two Shoes & the Strangest Career Pivots in Music
    53:20 – Track 22: Planning Episode 150 — What Do Four Music Lovers Actually Want?
    55:29 – Track 23: Thrashgrass Dolly — When Genre Mashups Become Real
    57:53 – Track 24: Scotcharoos & Advent Calendars — How a Band Bonds Over Treats
    59:48 – Track 25: 148 Episodes Later — How Four People Built Something Real
    🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM

    "We're not five stars anymore, and that's the whole point. At 50, your taste gets honest, your stories get funnier, and your favorite song doesn't have to be everyone else's."


    1. "What should you do if you mix up two different artists in a podcast?"
    2. "Why does Pink Floyd matter 50 years later?"
    3. "How do you enjoy music you don't naturally like?"
    4. "What makes the Iowa State Fair the hot tub capital?"
    5. "Can you really walk through Hollywood as Dolly Parton in drag?"
    1 hr 2 min
  • 147 Ramble On (Again)

    In this episode of Set List of Life, the band tackles one of rock's greatest travel anthems—Led Zeppelin's "Ramble On"—while unpacking real conversations about family, books, personality types, and why some people can't stop talking to themselves.

    It starts with a personality quiz that reveals which band member you actually are. The conversation spirals into The Hobbit debate—why getting kids to read classics requires patience, audiobooks, and the Libby app—before pivoting to the elephant in the room: Leslie's Iowa State Fair adventure.

    What did she eat? Everything. What was she skeptical about? The butter cow, mysteriously positioned so far behind glass it might be plastic. The band investigates state fairs across America, the secret music scene in Des Moines bars, carnival games rigged with magnets, and why the Intimidator ride at King's Dominion makes people pass out (a phenomenon no one can fully explain).

    Later, the crew explores whether you have background music playing in your head while you walk, why Dan Fogarty isn't Dan Fogelberg (and why that matters), and the surprisingly normal experience of having an internal monologue that occasionally makes you flinch in public.

    There's also urgent pet-sitting news, a potential rescue dog matching, and a gentle reminder that creative people in midlife aren't just managing band schedules—they're moving their kids into college apartments, adopting giant cats, and trying to deep-clean their houses.

    Best for: Classic rock fans, road musicians, parents navigating identity shifts, fair enthusiasts, and anyone who's ever sung the same song for three hours straight.

    🎵 THE SETLIST 00:00 – TRACK 1: Introduction & Tonight's Song – Why "Ramble On" by Led Zeppelin Matters to Road Musicians
    02:07 – TRACK 2: The Hobbit Debate – Getting Your Kids to Love Classics (Why Your First Read Matters)
    05:06 – TRACK 3: Which Band Member Are You? – Taking the Personality Quiz & What Your Results Reveal
    10:14 – TRACK 4: The Sneakers Theory – What Your Subconscious Choice Says About How You Live
    12:36 – TRACK 5: The Iowa State Fair Deep Dive – What Adults Really Need to Know Before You Go
    14:49 – TRACK 6: The Butter Cow Conspiracy – Why This Fair Icon Seems Impossibly Far Away
    17:15 – TRACK 7: Fair Food Rankings – Lobster Rolls, Pork Chops on Sticks & What's Actually Worth $70
    19:07 – TRACK 8: State Fairs Across America – Why Iowa's Fair Matters & How Yours Compares
    21:10 – TRACK 9: The Aldi Adventure – Why You Keep Going Back (It's Just About the Cheese)
    23:34 – TRACK 10: Carnival Rides & Passing Out – Why Some Amusement Park Rides Are Dangerous (And Why People Love Them)
    25:41 – TRACK 11: The Animals & The Livestock – Why State Fairs Are Educational (Even If You Don't Plan It)
    28:01 – TRACK 12: Fair Bars & Live Music – Des Moines' Hidden Music Scene & Why You Should Explore It
    30:08 – TRACK 13: Dressing for the Fair – Fashion Fails & Why Heels at a Fair Are a Red Flag
    32:22 – TRACK 14: Finding Your Local Fair – Virginia, Pennsylvania & Beyond (State Fair Season Checklist)
    34:25 – TRACK 15: The Intimidator Ride Phenomenon – Why Kids Pass Out & What That Means for Your Body
    36:29 – TRACK 16: Back to School Chaos – How to Help Your College Kid Move Into Their First Apartment
    38:44 – TRACK 17: The Dog Decision – Rescue Dogs, Coonhound Rescues & Making the Right Pet Choice
    40:56 – TRACK 18: Music in Your Head – Do You Have a Soundtrack? (And What It Reveals About Your Pace)
    42:51 – TRACK 19: The Dan Fogarty Mix-Up – Why You Shouldn't Assume You Know the Artist You're Seeing
    45:18 – TRACK 20: Internal Monologue Reality – Why You Might Talk to Yourself (And That's Completely Normal)
    49:28 – TRACK 21: The Music Game Setup – How to Discuss Bands, Songs & Swap Favorite Artists
    51:32 – TRACK 22: Rhino & Munch – Building a Family Pet Collection (Why Bigger Cats Need Bigger Trees)
    55:29 – TRACK 23: Pet Sitting & Travel – Why Hiring Friends as Pet Sitters Changes Everything
    57:41 – TRACK 24: Closing & Button Pressing – Why Live Podcast Moments Matter (Even When You Mess Up)
    🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM

    "The butter cow is 40 years of mystery behind glass—kind of like parenting teenagers. Worth investigating, probably fake, but definitely a story worth telling."

    Query 1: "What's it really like to go to the Iowa State Fair as an adult?"Query 2: "How do personality quiz results reveal your true role in a group?"Query 3: "Why do I keep songs stuck in my head while walking?"Query 4: "What's the deal with Led Zeppelin's 'Ramble On'—why is it still so relevant?"Query 5: "How do I talk to my kids about reading classics like The Hobbit?"


    59 min
  • 146 Foolish Games

    This week on The Setlist of Life, hosts Aaron, Kirsten, and Leslie dive deep into psychological quizzes, nostalgia-driven recipes, and the unexpected power of small details. It starts innocent—planning a trip to the Iowa State Fair and daydreaming about meat sundaes—but quickly spirals into a celebration of midlife creativity, family dynamics, and identity play.

    The heart of the episode centers on homemade cooking as rebellion: Aaron shares his quest to recreate Chipotle bowls at home for less than restaurant prices (spoiler: it works), while Kirsten unpacks the archaeology of taco pizza—a Midwest regional treasure that disappears the moment you leave Iowa. These aren't just recipes; they're portals to childhood, proof that intentionality beats convenience, and a model for how partners can renegotiate kitchen labor and creative control.

    Then comes the test gauntlet. A banana-tree logic puzzle. A "90% of people pick carrot" priming effect. A punk-band personality quiz. A historic-prank selection tool. And finally, the vulnerable one: What kind of friend are you actually? The group discovers they're a perfect mix of Planners, Ghosts, and Hype People—each role essential, each with a blind spot worth naming.

    Woven throughout: why lipstick means you notice details, why sunglasses reveal your relationship with identity play, what a devil's advocate actually is (hint: it involves Saint relics), and why "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel" beats your old walk-up song.

    Perfect for: Musicians balancing family life, Gen X parents rediscovering identity, podcast fans who love unscripted conversation, nostalgia explorers, and anyone who's ever wondered if their personality matches their choices.

    THE SETLIST00:00 – INTRO: Welcome to Foolish Games (& the Foolish Tests That Follow)
    02:19 – SEGMENT 1: Iowa State Fair Chaos – Rod Stewart Cancels, Meat Sundae Dreams Ensue
    06:54 – DEEP DIVE: The Evolution of State Fair Food (Fried Everything vs. Local Traditions)
    08:43 – "TACO PIZZA ARCHAEOLOGY": How a Midwest Childhood Becomes a Family Recipe
    11:04 – THE COOKING RENAISSANCE: Why Making Chipotle at Home Changed Everything
    13:14 – SIDE QUEST: Homemade Dog Food, Cleaner Confusion & the Smell Factor
    15:29 – RECIPE TRUTH BOMB: The Secret Ingredients Nobody Tells You About
    17:35 – KITCHEN CULTURE SHIFT: How Your Partner Learning to Cook Rewires Family Dynamics
    20:04 – PSYCHOLOGY TEST #1: The Banana Tree – What Your Animal Choice Says About You
    22:13 – THE PRIMING EFFECT: Why 90% of People Say "Carrot" (And Why You Didn't)
    24:35 – RECIPE WINS: Succotash, Tried-and-True Folders & the Hype Around Aaron's Tomatoes
    26:59 – PERSONALITY QUIZ: Which Band Role Are You? (The Results Get Weird)
    32:22 – MUSICIAN DEEP DIVE: Why Guitarists Lead Bands (And Why Merch Slingers Matter)
    34:26 – "PANIC AT THE DISCO" RABBIT HOLE: When Band Knowledge Gaps Become Comedy Gold
    36:11 – JACK WHITE ENERGY: Why Musicians Choose Their Friends (& It's Not Random)
    38:21 – PRANK HISTORY: The Devil's Advocate & Why the Church Needed Relic Fact-Checkers
    40:39 – PERSONALITY TEST #2: Which Historic Prank Would You Pull? (& What It Says About You)
    44:05 – MURDER MYSTERY SOLVED: The Windowless Room Logic That Trips Everyone Up
    49:05 – THE LIPSTICK CHOICE: Why Small Details Reveal Your Entire Personality
    53:01 – SUNGLASSES & PERSONAS: Identity Play Isn't Fake (It's Intentional)
    55:23 – THE HARD QUIZ: "What Kind of Friend Are You Actually?" (With Room to Grow)
    57:42 – GROUP CHAT DYNAMICS: The Ghost, The Planner, The Therapist & The Hype Person
    01:10:20 – TEAM ASSESSMENT: How Friends Fit Into Four Friendship Archetypes
    01:12:42 – THE PARENTING PARALLEL: Crock Pots, Homemade Dog Food & Letting Go of Control
    01:15:02 – WALK-UP SONG EVOLUTION: Why "Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel" Beats "Shoop"
    01:16:56 – OUTRO & ASSIGNMENT: Pick Your Walk-Up Song (Yours Due Next Week)

    🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM

    "You don't have to play the lead to keep the band alive. Sometimes the best solo is knowing when to let someone else shine—and making sure the merch slingers get thanked."

    1. How do you recreate Chipotle at home for less money?
    2. What makes taco pizza different from regular pizza?
    3. Why do small details matter more than people think?
    4. What's the best walk-up song for confidence?
    5. How do you balance being a parent and a musician?


    1 hr 18 min
  • 145 Knock On Wood

    The Setlist of Life: Summer Adventures, Band Life & Raising Kids Without Urgency

    In this deeply conversational episode, the Dolly for Sue bandmates—Leslie (vocals), Aaron (guitar), Christine (drums), and Kirsten (keyboard)—reflect on summer adventures, parenting paradoxes, and the gap between Gen X intentionality and Gen Z digital passivity.

    The conversation weaves together personal travel stories: a panic-inducing hike in Rocky Mountain National Park, a beach week of unexpected solitude, Florida kayaking through mangroves, and a stay at the (non-haunted) Stanley Hotel. Threaded throughout are hilarious detours into lip-sync contest history, airplane movie ethics, algorithm-recommended art horror, and sea turtle conservation becoming a passionate obsession.

    At its core, the episode explores how parenting has shifted post-COVID—kids grew up in isolation and emerged without the deadline urgency previous generations developed. The band reflects on their own coming-of-age (crop tops at lip-sync contests, MTV music, mixtape culture) versus watching their children manage thousands of unread emails with zen indifference. There's genuine warmth here: not blame, but curiosity about how isolation rewires work ethic and attention.

    Music nostalgia anchors the conversation—from Amy Stewart's "Knock on Wood" (1979) to Z Top's "Legs" to Cruel Summer and Banana Rama. Pop culture meanders through The Princess Bride, Salt Burn, and Breaking Bad co-watching rituals. And a book recommendation emerges: Dungeon Crawler Carl, a genre-bending sci-fi series that hooks readers in ways Harry Potter fans understand.

    For parents navigating midlife creativity, Gen X identity, and the strange new world of raising resilient (if urgency-free) kids, this episode offers permission to laugh, worry a little less, and appreciate the adventures—and misadventures—that bind families together.

    THE SETLIST0:00 – Track [1]: The Disco Lightning Song That Started It All
    (Knock on Wood by Amy Stewart, 1979, and why storms make for great memories)
    2:06 – Track [2]: How We Got Disqualified from the Lip Sync Contest
    (Conservative schools, crop tops, and the licking incident nobody saw coming)
    4:17 – Track [3]: Why Methodist Youth Groups Were More Forgiving Than We Expected
    (Z Top's "Legs," double standards, and what the church actually cared about)
    6:28 – Track [4]: What It's Like Watching Classic Movies for the First Time as an Adult
    (The Princess Bride revelation, airplane etiquette, and why new planes have privacy screens)
    8:40 – Track [5]: The Movie Nobody Warns You About on Airplane Wifi
    (Salt Burn, deviant behavior, and why some films shouldn't be in rotation)
    10:50 – Track [6]: When Your Algorithm Starts Suggesting Lamb Baby Art
    (Weird internet recommendations, curated trauma, and what it says about your taste)
    13:17 – Track [7]: The Waterfall Panic: A Parent's Worst Nightmare (and Why Communication Matters)
    (Hiking at elevation, kids wandering off, the search for Joey, real-time parental anxiety)
    15:40 – Track [8]: Elevation, Heart Health & Mountain Adventures After a Heart Attack
    (Recovery story, training at altitude, why family hikes get complicated)
    17:48 – Track [9]: Natural Selection at Yellowstone: Why People Pet Bison & Fall Into Geysers
    (National park stupidity, Instagram selfies gone wrong, and Darwin's observations)
    20:05 – Track [10]: The Stanley Hotel: Ghost Tours, The Shining, and Haunted Condo Mishaps
    (Colorado adventure, broken hot tubs, ceiling holes, and no paranormal activity—yet)
    22:24 – Track [11]: The Beach Week You Actually Got to Yourself
    (Empty pool days, reading books, no entertaining required—the first solo vacation)
    24:43 – Track [12]: Kayaking in Mangroves, Brackish Water & The Alligator You Never Thought About
    (Florida adventure, airboat tours, and why physical activity overrides predator anxiety)
    26:40 – Track [13]: Catching Sharks While Fishing for Reds (And How to Get the Hook Out)
    (Beach fishing gone awry, bonnet sharks, pliers as essential fishing gear, and why Kirsten's staying poolside)
    28:53 – Track [14]: The Toadfish Discovery: When Nature's Design Seems Like a Mistake
    (What's a toadfish? Frog-fish hybrids, croaking sounds, and the joy of learning something new)
    31:19 – Track [15]: Becoming a Turtle-Saving Zealot (One Hole at a Time)
    (Sea turtle nesting season, beach conservation, sand castle etiquette, and generational differences)
    33:31 – Track [16]: Summer School Survival: AP Econ, Physics, and the Parent in the Chair Next Door
    (Academic pressure, helicopter parenting, deadline excuses, and the "teacher hasn't graded it yet" myth)
    35:39 – Track [17]: Why Gen Z Has No Urgency (And Whose Fault That Actually Is)
    (COVID isolation, late submissions, 1500 unread emails, and the test score excuses)
    37:55 – Track [18]: Email Organization: Zero Inbox vs. Chaos (What It Says About You)
    (Digital habits, spam filtering, family email history, and why Joey missed his deadline)
    39:51 – Track [19]: Blaming the Pandemic: How COVID Shaped a Generation's Work Ethic
    (Inward focus, isolation effects, growing up during lockdown, and parental guilt)
    42:07 – Track [20]: The Middle School Reprieve (And Why High School Participation Is Coming Back)
    (Parent involvement cycles, sports commitments, PTA fatigue, and the nostalgia of stepping back)
    44:15 – Track [21]: Kids' Shows Ranked: From Backyard Friends to Peep in the Big Wide World
    (PBS classics, celebrity guest stars, educational TV that actually holds adult attention)
    49:27 – Track [22]: The Mystery Show Nobody Can Remember (And Why AI Can't Help)
    (Science-based kids' programming, lost media, collective memory failures, Story Bots redemption)
    51:45 – Track [23]: What We're Watching Right Now (OA, Ted Lasso, Breaking Bad, Young Sheldon)
    (Streaming culture, palate cleansing, co-watching with teens, and why some shows trigger)
    53:50 – Track [24]: Dungeon Crawler Carl: The Book Series Nobody Expected to Love
    (Genre-bending sci-fi, audiobook vs. print, addiction reading, and the Harry Potter comparison)
    56:10 – Track [25]: Summer Reading & the Library Waitlist (A Parting Recommendation)
    (Book culture, library demand, what's trending with adult readers, and why this one hooks you)
    BACKSTAGE WISDOM

    "Your kids aren't lazy—they're just processing urgency through a pandemic filter. Same bandwidth, different threat assessment. Stop asking them to care like you do, and start asking them what actually makes them move."


    • "How do you handle anxiety when your kids wander off in nature?"


    • "What was 'Knock on Wood' by Amy Stewart about? (1979 disco song)"


    • "Why do kids have no sense of urgency about deadlines and emails?"


    • "How to get kids to fill in beach holes to protect sea turtle nests?"


    • "Best lip sync contest songs for adults + how to not get disqualified?"



    58 min
  • 144 Thank You For Being A Friend

    The Setlist of Life returns after its longest hiatus to celebrate reconnection, resilience, and the messy reality of midlife summers.

    In this candid band reunion, Leslie, Aaron, and Kirsten catch up on everything summer threw at them: mysterious injuries that appear overnight, pets discovering their warrior instincts, close calls with tornadoes, and the quiet comedy of being invisible to airline staff. The session kicks off with an exploration of the high-low game—a deceptively simple family communication tool—before spiraling into stories of extreme weather, family weddings, barn power outages, and the peculiar humiliation of being physically outmatched at an escape room designed for teenagers.

    Beyond the laughs, this episode maps the invisible terrain of midlife: how bodies change without warning, how identity gets refreshed through small choices (vintage sunglasses, retro music), and how showing up for family priorities sometimes means missing your own commitments. There's grief for an absent bandmate, celebration of kids becoming adults who out-athlete their parents, and honest reckoning with aging memory, responsibility, and the pressure to consume holidays before we've finished the current season.

    For audiences seeking: authentic midlife conversations, family dynamics that actually reflect real life, Gen X nostalgia without saccharine framing, and permission to laugh at your own limitations.


    THE SETLIST


    | **0:00** | **Intro: Thank You for Being a Friend** — The Band Returns After Their Longest Break | Nostalgia anchor (Golden Girls theme); band identity; reconnection ritual |

    | **1:37** | **Track 1: The High-Low Game — A Simple Tool for Family Conversations** | Parenting hack; family communication; dinner table ritual |

    | **2:45** | **Track 2: Fashion Reboot at Midlife — Retro Sunglasses & Finding Your Icon** | Personal reinvention; aging identity; Gen X nostalgia (Tom Selleck) |

    | **4:02** | **Track 3: Waking Up Injured — Why Bodies Betray Us in Our 50s** | Midlife health; mysterious joint pain; accepting physical changes |

    | **6:15** | **Track 4: Cat as Warrior — When Your Pet Finds Their Second Act** | Pet behavior; instinct; personality transformation; pride & purpose |

    | **8:45** | **Track 5: The Smell of Death in the Carpet — A Problem No Clorox Can Solve** | Dark humor; home maintenance nightmare; unresolvable messes (life metaphor) |

    | **10:20** | **Track 6: Caught in a Tornado Without Knowing — Surviving Extreme Weather Obliviously** | Climate resilience; close calls; gratitude reframe; barn power outages (recurring theme) |

    | **16:30** | **Track 7: Airboats, Gators & Raw Chicken — Adventure Tourism Gets Weird** | Travel stories; risk & thrill; humor under absurdity; Everglades tourism |

    | **21:15** | **Track 8: The First-Class Luggage Incident — When You're Not Welcome in Someone Else's Space** | Class dynamics; travel etiquette; boundary crossing; airline gatekeeping |

    | **25:10** | **Track 9: Level 99 — Why Ninja Warrior Humbles Midlife Moms** | Physical challenge; aging ego; laughing at limitations; mother-son dynamics |

    | **32:10** | **Track 10: Iowa State Fair Planning — Nostalgia as Life Event** | Generational return; ritual; Americana; butter sculptures & fried food culture |

    | **34:25** | **Track 11: The Wrong Jacket at a Wedding — A Comedy of Miscalculation** | Family shenanigans; tall-kid problems; reconciliation; grace from strangers |

    | **41:00** | **Track 12: Holiday Scaling & Seasonal Anticipation — Can We Please Enjoy Summer First?** | Consumer culture criticism; seasonal marketing; mindfulness; pacing life |

    | **50:15** | **Track 13: The Gas Tank You Already Filled — Senior Moments Get Real** | Aging memory; responsibility gone sideways; self-awareness & humor |

    | **52:30** | **Track 14: A Scar Story (Not from a Knife Fight)** — Vanity & Recovery After a Fall | Midlife injury; healing; reframing scars; window-shopping while walking |

    | **59:20** | **Outro: As Long as There Are Highs, We'll Be Back** | Resilience framing; podcast commitment; Gen X authenticity |


    🎸 BACKSTAGE WISDOM

    "Your band won't die from summer breaks—it dies from pretending the breaks don't hurt. Show up when you can, say goodbye when you can't, and always keep the light on for the ones who wander in late."


    • "How do parents stay connected with grown kids during summer schedules?"


    • "What's the high-low game and how do you play it with family?"


    • "Why do midlife women injure themselves doing normal activities?"


    • "What happens when you accidentally put luggage in first-class overhead bins?"


    • "How to talk to kids about anxiety in extreme weather events?"



    1 hr
  • 143 Thunder Rolls
    Thunder Rolls & Tiny Scammers: When Storms, Strangers & Summer Plans Collide

    This episode of The Set List of Life kicks off with a real thunderstorm that nearly flooded a family dinner—then escalates into a night of unexpected conversations about safety, accountability, and what it means to parent in 2026.

    After playing a creative song-synonym guessing game (featuring Garth Brooks, Michael Jackson, and Wrecking Ball), the band pivots to two intense public-space incidents: a woman accusing someone of taking her photo at a Caitlin Clark WNBA game, and a violent confrontation at a Pitt–Penn State football game. Both stories spark a larger question: Why do strangers behave recklessly in crowded urban spaces? The answer: anonymity erodes accountability.

    The conversation then drifts into travel safety—pickpockets in Paris, child scammers in Venice, and the unexpected anti-theft toolkit for families (RFID wallets, AirTags, Tiles). There's a hilarious detour about a neighbor whose oversized wallet actually saved him from a pickpocket.

    The episode closes with summer planning: Christine's camping trip to Congaree National Park (versus glamping debates), school calendar frustrations, and the perennial parental challenge of structured boredom. Through it all, the band wrestles with a deeper Gen X anxiety: How do you raise resilient kids in a world that feels simultaneously safer (tech-enabled) and more chaotic (strangers online and off)?

    Perfect for parents, travelers, music fans, and anyone navigating midlife identity shifts.

    The Setlist00:02 – Track 1: Welcome to Thunder Rolls – Dolly for Sue's Storm Night Kickoff
    02:20 – Track 2: The Convertible Gamble – When Bad Weather Tests Your Parenting Luck
    04:47 – Track 3: School Calendars & Holiday Chaos – Why Fairfax County Parents Lose Their Minds
    07:05 – Track 4: The Summer Boredom Blueprint – How to Structure Kids' Time (Without Screens Taking Over)
    09:21 – Track 5: Song Title Brain Game – Can You Guess the Hit from Synonyms Only?
    15:59 – Track 6: When Fans Go Feral – The Caitlin Clark Game Incident & Stranger Danger at Sports Events
    18:21 – Track 7: The Accusation – Why a Woman Screamed at Kevin Over "Taking Her Picture"
    22:54 – Track 8: Road Rage at Penn State – Another Story of Public Aggression & Lost Accountability
    24:52 – Track 9: Small Town vs. Big City Brain – Why Anonymity Changes How Humans Behave
    27:04 – Track 10: Tales from the Louvre – Pickpockets, Big Wallets & Travel Safety Lessons
    31:19 – Track 11: The Tiny Thief Ring – Why Child Scammers Are the Creepiest Crime Tactic (& How to Protect Your Kids)
    33:24 – Track 12: Tiles, AirTags & Travel Insurance – The Modern Anti-Theft Toolkit for Families
    35:40 – Track 13: How to Create DIY Games for Podcast Recording & Family Nights
    37:31 – Track 14: Camping Nostalgia – Why Sleeping Bags Meant Everything in the '80s
    39:24 – Track 15: Summer Adventure Planning – Congaree, Rocky Mountains & the Great Outdoors Bucket List
    41:31 – Track 16: Glamping vs. Camping – The Heated Debate Between Comfort & Authenticity
    43:44 – Track 17: The Adventure Pitch – Why Daytime Exploration Beats Sleeping in Tents
    45:59 – Track 18: Before We Go – Review Us (But Only If You Mean It)
    🎸 Backstage Wisdom

    "You can't control the stranger in the next seat, but you can control whether your kid knows how to entertain themselves in a tent. One prepares you for the world; the other prepares you for peace."


    1. "How do you keep kids entertained without screens during summer break?"
    • Intent: Parents seeking structured boredom management; summer learning gaps
    • Entity Map: Screen time boundaries, chore systems, creative play, family engagement
    1. "What should parents do if their child doesn't wake up for school on time?"
    • Intent: Morning routine struggles, teenage sleep schedules, parental frustration
    • Entity Map: Accountability, nagging, school policies, adolescent development
    1. "How to stay safe from pickpockets and scams while traveling with kids?"
    • Intent: Travel safety anxiety, anti-theft strategies, family vulnerability
    • Entity Map: RFID wallets, AirTags, tourist areas, crime prevention, urban awareness
    1. "Why do strangers behave aggressively in public spaces? Accountability in city living."
    • Intent: Social psychology, small-town vs. urban behavior, anonymity effects
    • Entity Map: Community accountability, social cohesion, midlife reflection, Gen X perspective
    1. "Game nights for adults: synonym song guessing games and family activities"
    • Intent: DIY entertainment, music trivia variations, low-tech fun
    • Entity Map: Garth Brooks, creative wordplay, band dynamics, nostalgia


    50 min

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