Skip this one if you don't care about the Avengers!

We talk about Puddles Pity Party, John's Fringe show, and the connection (or not) between honesty and pessimism.

We talk about the AMA awards, Avengers: Endgame, Brian Gillis, and not telling people that you're a magician.

John & Chris discuss preparations for Fringe, whether or not you need a moment of obscurity for a transformation, the common thread between all of the most popular magicians, and how everyone should watch "I Think You Should Leave".

Chris demonstrates a very poor magic square, we talk about if seating affects audience reaction, similarities between magic and improv, and why magicians are sad.

We talk about rental cars, never finishing stories, ACAAN, red buttons, and Red Buttons!

Robert Ramirez (Penn & Teller: Fool Us, The Magic Castle, In the Heights national tour) comes in to talk corrections and additions from listening to the show, using audience members (or not), what that Mint-O trick really is, and much more!

Rob's website:

https://www.robrammagic.com

And it's someone you've heard of! Let's start drumming up a huge controversy here. Just kidding. It's about how "The Karate Kid" actually presents a valid, if Asian, pedagogical approach to learning.

We're back in the US together! We talk about auditions, lectures, Europe, and which methods we think are strong and weak, and how bad Chris is going to be when he actually does magic for magicians.

What more do we have to say? The brilliant Harrison Greenbaum is on the show today. We talk about stand-up comedy, magic, and everything in between. He's amazing and has tons of insights into both worlds, and why we are all terrible. Enjoy!