In this episode Pip welcomes Rob Meyer from Ridgeway Leatherworks. They discuss the balance between running a business and serving in the fire department, the importance of sustainability in business practices, and the cultural shifts occurring within the fire service. Rob shares his journey in leather craftsmanship, the significance of storytelling and tradition in the fire service, and how he instills a maker attitude in his family. The conversation emphasizes the importance of customer relations and the philosophy of enjoying life while managing a business. Ridgeway Rob shares his journey in the leather community, highlighting his achievements and the validation he received from being featured in a trade magazine. He discusses the intersection of his leather crafting business with his passion for the fire service, emphasizing the importance of supporting fellow makers and embracing competition. The conversation also touches on the significance of visual storytelling in promoting his work, navigating social media controversies, and the importance of teaching respect and communication skills to the next generation of firefighters. In this conversation, Rob and Pip discuss the importance of training new firefighters, the passion that drives their commitment to the fire service, and the balance between running a business and serving the community. They share personal insights and life lessons, emphasizing the value of mentorship and surrounding oneself with knowledgeable individuals. The discussion culminates in advice for younger generations, focusing on listening, learning, and personal growth. Because, what you do off the job, MATTERS!!!