Dallas Cooper @thedallascooper

Keri Lawson @kerrij23

Rob Ridley @fairview39

Let’s work together to create a “Survivable Space” within the fire service. We all talk about creating a survivable space for victims in burning buildings, but this is The Size Up, so the Survivable Space here is not what you may think. June is Pride month and we brought back two past guests Dallas and Keri to talk about their experience within the fire service. Rob Ridley from National Fire Radio joins Pip this week as a co host.

Last year for Pride month Rob and Pip spoke with Dallas about his experience as a firefighter for the City of Houston. Keri joins the crew from South Carolina this year to continue that discussion with Dallas. Throughout the episode Keri and Dallas offer up a “toolbox” of advice that everyone can pull information from to understand and implement an inclusive environment within their crew and station.

Rob was able to apply a very common fire service term, creating a survivable space into something we all need to do better. Especially when it comes to our interactions with each other and asking ourselves the question. What’s My Size Up?