Will and Karen, are the husband and wife hosts of the award-winning podcast The Skeptic Metaphysicians.

Will is more of the skeptic, and Karen is more of the believer, but both are fascinated and have their world views challenged, as they explore "metaphysics." By talking to psychic mediums, channelers, astral projectors, near-death experiencers, energy healers - and all sorts of fascinating people who explore this non-material world, both have gotten to learn about things they had never thought possible. In this episode with fellow podcasters who are fascinated by the same topics, Karen and Will discuss some of the phenomena they have learned about that most blew their mind, how Will came to change his mind about the "spiritual" and why Karen always thought there was more than materialism. They share some of their most evidential "what the fucks," what they think of an afterlife, how have their lives changed since delving into this world of the "inexplicable," and more.

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In this episode:

- Karen and Will are husband and wife co-hosts of the podcast The Skeptical Metaphysicians

- Will is more of the skeptic and Karen is more of the believer

- Why did they start this podcast

- What changed Will's mind and why did Karen always believe

- How have they sensed when guests were genuine - something that is not always easy to tell in this "spiritual" world

- How have they handled it when they discovered a guest was not genuine

- Karen had an amazing OBE experience. Liz and Will have been trying with no luck

- What are some of the most amazing things they have learned which changed their worldview

- What evidence have they gotten that there is more than this material world

- What ended Will's terror of death

- What do they think happens after we die

- How have their lives changed since delving into this world - it seems once people open their minds to the "inexplicable," lives change.

and more...

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