This episode is fresh off Sean's second shoulder surgery in 10 ten days.

Health challenges have been a theme for the Whalens during 2022. Saxony has endured through Hashimoto's Disease in addition to Sean's shoulder issues. It's forced each of them as fiercely independent people to ask for help and be reminded of the importance of keeping your house in order.

This experience has introduced a new dynamic into the lives of Sean and Sax and they have decided to talk about it.

Listen now!