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Episode Transcript
Tim: Hello, this is Tim
Vie: And this is Vie. And we welcome you to another episode of the spartan mind strength podcast.
Tim: This is actually a special edition because for the month of September, I am going to be a featured chef
Vie: For US Wellness Meats.
Tim: Yup. And we’re going to be talking on this series which will be all of September about why meat, meat, not vegetables, but meat is actually a huge part of the ancient ayurveda. It is what made people thrive, not just survive and not die, but thrive.
Vie: Yes. That's the key word. Thrive. Stay tuned. We’ll be right back.
Tim: And we’re back. But first, did you subscribe, did you like, did you share, did you tell all your friends, did you
Vie: Leave a review - I’m not sure we should be asking for a review during this one.
Tim: And then did you start following
Vie: Us wellness meats an amazing, amazing company
Tim: But don’t follow them because if you do we won’t be able to get our meat from them because too many people will be buying meat. No. US wellness is a company that we’ve been working with for several years. we get a lot of food from them and they carry rabbit and duck and chicken, and lamb. And, I think I’ve seen goat once, and
Vie: It varies. Because the idea is
Tim: Cow, pig
Vie: Oh yeah, of course. Yeah. And, and a lot of organ meat. Yes. And it varies, you never know because they are, they truly follow the process of ayurveda in terms of that dynamic balance with the environment. It depends what nature gives what time.
Tim: And it’s one of the few companies that we can actually find organ meat. I think so many butchers just throw out some of the stuff or save it for themselves, but it’s usually very difficult to get a lot of the organ meat that we can get from them. And organ meat, when it’s in a recipe it’s called
Vie: Offal. It’s o — double f — a — l
Tim: I did not know that until they sent us a letter saying you’re, you’re making some offal recipes.
Vie: Yes. You actually read awful. But it’s like, no
Tim: They taste that bad. So, can you tell me a little bit as we go into this, can you tell me a little bit about why raw vegetables, because I want to go into vegetables first and why there’s this, there’s this thought that ayurveda is all about being vegetarian, and now I even see vegan and some of the conferences that we went and taught at, they even wanted us to cut out fat.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: A lady got up and said that olive oil is terrible for you. You need to quit eating olive oil. You should only eat olives off the tree. And if you’ve ever eaten olives off the tree, you’ll never listen to that lady again. But they shifted, some people are trying to actually shift ayurveda even to be stricter and taking away more and more of the food that actually helps us thrive. And they’re doing it in the name of ayurveda. But in reality, it’s in the name of control.
Vie: Exactly. It is fully in the name of control. And actually that lady didn’t just attack olive oil, she attacked ghee which is the foundation of ayurveda.
Tim: Yeah. She wanted people to quit ghee.
Vie: But you can say, well, ghee comes from animal whereas olive oil comes, you know, from the tree. That’s how deranged her thoughts, her opinions were. So, the thing is, actually, it is, it’s a matter of interpretation. The texts, the true ayurveda texts were written before 500 AD and they were written in Sanskrit. So when, as anyone can probably guess, when you translate something from one language to another, you can actually give your own interpretation.
Tim: Yup, and Sanskrit is an ancient language. And most people in India don’t
Vie: Don’t speak Sanskrit.
Tim: So you as a Greek who actually understands ancient Greek understands French, understands English, and also studied Sanskrit can translate better than somebody that maybe that talks a different language, but has never actually studied Sanskrit.
Vie: Exactly, exactly. Because also, it’s the concept, is you have, you have to understand Sanskrit and you have to understand how languages are formed and how they, how they actually give the meaning of the word within a specific context. In ayurveda, the path to health, the path to health says that one who eats wholesome food. That’s how it is translated in pretty much every ayurveda book, every Ayurvedic school in the West. Wholesome food. Well, what comes to mind when you say wholesome food today?
Tim: Today, I see fields of corn, I see fruits, apples, oranges,
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: Because we’ve been taught six to eight, or seven to nine
Vie: Meals
Tim: of servings of fruits and vegetables.
Vie: Exactly, exactly. And also when you add in there the concept of prana, which they, life force when, when you hear over and over that you want food that gives you life, food that has life and gives you life and food that’s fresh and not out of a bag, and all those other things they add to it, what are you going to think?
Vie: So that’s how they started pushing that in terms of Ayurveda, specifically. Saying, well, the text says this and that’s where I’m going to take it. It’s like, it is like they went to school to like fifth grade and never made it to sixth grade. It is like they only read that particular thing, and never read the rest of it.
Tim: And never studied, never looked into more.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: Also I want to go into real quick is, I was taught in one of my two hundreds that Raja or Tamas first is meat, dead meat. And tamas is bad.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: So you want to get all of that meat out of your system. And then rajas is garlic, onions, coffee.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: So you want to quit drinking coffee, not drink alcohol. I think alcohol was rajas also and or tamas.
Vie: Oh yeah
Tim: And then, but sattva is fields of wheat, fields of fresh fruit, fields of all this stuff. And the only way you can become one with God or find that enlightenment is to cut out tamas, cut out Raja and cut out sattva. Go to sattva, but then when sattva, you have to get rid of sattva in order to find that enlightenment.
Vie: Yes, exactly.
Tim: So at the end, you have to get rid of the fruits and vegetables, and everything.
Vie: Absolutely, and that’s yeah.
Tim: But I actually think that cutting out coffee and meat might be more hell than enlightenment.
Vie: Yeah, well that’s the whole thing of confusing, confusing the yogic path with what ayurveda says. And that’s actually the source of a lot of the confusion. Ayurveda was written by 500 AD, Ayurveda was written
Tim: Before 500 AD.
Vie: Yes, before, before 500 AD, everything ends there, It was written to help people thrive. Ayurveda was saying, this is the idea of what you should be doing to get to be as healthy as possible in the full sense of the term health, which we’ll get into it a little bit later. The, yogic path, the yogic path is to actually, as it was interpreted through the yoga sutras, and that’s how most people take it, is, is about dying. Finding that enlightenment becoming one with God, eliminating, eliminating, eliminating — eliminate coffee, alcohol,
Tim: Living in a cave, you do everything you can do to get
Vie: Live in a cave, eat as little fruit as possible, and then having to eliminate the fruit too, and the grains and all that stuff. That’s about dying. So what you actually, what you are actually doing is getting rid of the body. You are, you don’t want to give it any nutrition because you don’t want it to live. You are trying to kill it. So you are actually trying to eliminate the body, to go into a complete different level, that you may find, you may not, it depends. And then actually move on to a different dimension, whatever you want to call it.
Tim: Let’s move on to a break. And we’ll be right back in a couple of minutes.
Vie: Stay tuned.
11:40 Tim: And we’re back, and we’re talking about the ayurvedic path to health and the yogic journey. Two different things. Ayurvedic path to health is about being healthy so that you can thrive.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: The yogic path to, the yogic path is to find enlightenment so that you can die.
Vie: Exactly. And actually the path to health, the ayurvedic path to health, starts with, one who eats wholesome food and ends with, and serves others. So,
Tim: Which is different than the yogic path.
Vie: Exactly, exactly, than the Yogic path. Serves others means you are a part of a community. It even talks about gives and forgives, and serves others. That’s being part of a community.
Tim: So when we’re looking at ayurveda, that is, and they call it the sister science to yoga and it could be, it’s a, it’s a good marketing thing, great marketing. But they are two completely different paths.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: That’s like saying what, I don’t even know what to say. So when we’re looking at ayurveda, we’re looking at being healthy, doing the best you can to be healthy. And when we’re looking at yoga, the yogic path, we’re looking at finding God.
Vie: Yes. And when we say the yogic, when we say yoga, not yoga as in practicing yoga, the physical aspect of yoga.
Tim: Because that’s not even yoga.
Vie: Yes. It’s the yogic path as interpreted by the yoga sutras. Exactly.
Tim: So again, the yoga yogic path is about eliminating meats and then eliminating fruits and then eliminating vegetables, fresh vegetables, eliminating grains, and only living on water and then eliminating that and then eliminating yourself
Vie: It is gradual elimination of, of nutrition in order to get rid of the body.
Tim: So, so where Ayurveda is about being extremely healthy.
Vie: Exactly. Being as healthy as you can be in order to serve your community, two completely different things.
Tim: Okay. Now I want to get again, back into vegetables then this is going to just be a quick one but, raw.
Vie: Yes. Raw. So ayurveda says that raw foods are very hard on the digestion because you, you require a lot more energy to actually break them down in order to absorb the nutrients. So ayurveda says that our, that our goal for a, for a really healthy life is to have balanced, balanced digestion and to have as strong of a digestion as possible.
Tim: What does balanced mean?
Vie: Balanced means
Tim: Because that’s something that everybody says, but nobody really explains.
Vie: Exactly. So balanced digestion means that you have to have balanced doshas in there. Balanced doshas, Vata, Pitta, Kapha, in terms of your digestion. So what that means is:
15:18 Vie: you have to have a healthy gut membrane, as strong as healthy of a gut membrane us possible. That’s your kapha. And if you don’t recognize that word, it doesn’t matter. Think healthy gut membrane.
15:37 Vie: The other is you have to have healthy digestive juices and enzymes to actually break down the food, that’s your fire, that’s your pitta. And then you have to have healthy movement of the food.
Tim: Are you talking pooping?
Vie: Exactly. So that you can absorb eliminate and all that stuff, healthy peristalsis, for example, and that’s, your Vata.
16:13 Vie: So you have to have those three things working in a relative, in a dynamic balance in order to be healthy. And, it’s, if you don’t have healthy gut membrane, nothing else can go right. If you don’t have healthy digestive juices, enzymes, all that nothing else can go right. If you don’t have healthy movement, nothing else can go right.
Tim: So basically you just took a lot of mystical aspect of ayurveda out of it because you gave actually English terms for what those three things are for your stomach..
Vie: Yeah. It’s all, it’s all right there. It is all basic physiology that ayurveda talks about. There is nothing truly mystical about it. It’s all basic physiology. So you have to have everything, everything in your gut has to be in a dynamic balance. And the ayurvedic path to health says it all starts with the basic mundane, whatever you want to call it food. It has to be nutrient wholesome as in, nutrient dense, nutrient diverse.
Tim: Okay. So, and the more raw it is, the less your stomach can be.
Vie: The more your stomach has to work. Exactly.
Tim: Now that’s with vegetables though
Vie: Yes
Tim: But they also say with meat, because there are, there is a book, at least one book on eating meat in ayurveda. And they say that the more sick you are, the more you want to cook the meat, the less sick you are, the less you have to cook the meat.
18:06 Vie: Exactly. So ayurveda says that if someone is sick and again, ayurveda says, if you don’t have healthy digestion, you are sick. You don’t, it doesn’t talk about people in a hospital.
Tim: So probably 90% of Americans are considered sick.
Vie: Sick, exactly, according to ayurveda. Because they don’t have balanced digestion. So ayurveda says the weaker you are digestion, the more impaired it is, the more meat you have to eat, cooked meat, because that is the most nutrient dense and diverse for your digestion.
18:50 Tim: I know we got asked this question a couple of days ago, in one of our teacher trainings, that dr. Lad,
Vie: Yes, Vasant Lad
Tim: who you trained with, a great, great man, very brilliant man said, you only need to eat. He said, eat meat.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: But he said,
Vie: If you are a sick,
Tim: but he didn’t go into what that meant.
Vie: Exactly. And the definition, the other very important definition for ayurveda is the definition of health says: one, blah, blah, blah, who has balanced digestive fire. And that’s what that means. Healthy gut membrane, healthy juices and healthy movement.
Tim: So most people don’t have all three of those. So they are considered sick in ayurveda,
Vie: according to ayurveda
Tim: which also means then they should be eating meat.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: So cooked meat though,
Vie: cooked meat.
Tim: So, so
Vie: cooked meat, bone broth, stews, soup with a lot of meat because that’s very, very nourishing for the digestion, warm.
Tim: So I just want to call this, this little one here and say we’re September 1st,
Vie: September 1st
Tim: the ayurvedic outlaw
Vie: the ayurvedic outlaw chef
Tim: is going to be,
Vie: is featured for us wellness meats
Tim: And they’re doing a giveaway in honor of the ayurveda outlaw,
Vie: The ayurveda outlaw chef and all the details are in the show notes here and also on all our social media and their social media.
Tim: So if you go and do what they say, you could win over a hundred dollars. I think it’s a hundred and fifty dollars.
Vie: Of really, really good nutrient dense and diverse food. Good for you and the environment.
Vie: Until the next one, namaste kala, may we all be well, adapt and thrive.
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Episode Transcript
Tim: Hello, this is Tim
Vie: And this is Vie. And we welcome you to another episode of the Spartan mind strengths podcast.
Tim: And this is number five of six for
Vie: For the ayurvedic prepper series
Tim: And it is brought to you by
Vie: The fascia fanatic Cherica Voyles, offering massage and body work and personal training in Fitness in Northeast Georgia and her conduct of course, is in the show notes. Stay tuned. We’ll be right back.
Tim: And we’re back. But first did you subscribe, did you listen, did you all of those things or not
Vie: Did you find the show notes?
Tim: Yes. Today we’re going to be continuing to talk about the Ayurvedic prepping and we’re going to be bringing in something from Benjamin Franklin and Benjamin Franklin used to do what was called the five hour rule. And we’re going to be using that five-hour rule for today in Ayurvedic prepping.
Tim: So what Benjamin Franklin did is he took one hour out of each day of the weekdays, Monday through Friday, Saturday, Sunday, he didn’t do it. But Monday through Friday, he took one hour out of each Workday and added in basically, knowledge. He learned, he did things that he could do to become better at something. So he didn’t go and he wasn’t continually just working. He took time off to study. He read books, he talked to people. He tried to get his, what he did in a better way.
Vie: Exactly, even a self evaluation. So, and the reason to say, well, why couldn’t he do that on the weekends right. And we don’t even know if you know what he was doing on the weekends, but the idea is that it was so important to him that, that self improvement, self evaluation, that he made it part of his daily routine of his work week.
Vie: So to him to be better, to be better at his work, at his skills, he needed to do nothing in terms of applying his skills. So instead of applying, applying, applying, say, practice, practice, practice, he took the one hour off to actually slack, right, in terms of his skills. For something completely different that would actually apply to his skills. And that’s the idea. It was completely different. What he was dedicating his time to, different from his daily do do do.
Tim: And so one of the things that he was doing was he took so like for us, we teach ayurveda, we teach yoga. So that we do almost seven days a week. But our main workdays are actually Friday, Saturday, Sunday, but we do a lot of prepping for it for the week.
Tim: And when we had the studio, it was, we had classes every day. Now, how do you bring Ayurvedic prepping into teaching yoga? And, so it’s one of those things that you have to really look at. Well, let’s look at how we can do that. And that is by looking inside ourselves and start focusing on things that aren’t related to yoga, but are related to our own health. And when we’re looking at our own health, that will feed into being a better teacher of yoga.
Vie: Yeah, absolutely. Our own health, our own mental, our own mental state, like physical health and mental state. The other way to also bring the ayurvedic prepping say into teaching yoga is: Is what we teach, does what we teach fit into the latest scientific research:
Tim: Yes.
Vie: Or does what we teach fit into what all the thriving cultures were practicing?
Vie: So it is about that well-rounded
Tim: Ability to teach and ability to practice.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: So I want to go first into the five hours a week into our own self. And so we teach yoga, we teach yoga, we teach yoga, we teach ayurveda, we teach ayurveda, we teach ayurveda.
Vie: What do we teach?
Tim: Yoga and ayurveda. But with that, there’s a lot of things that yoga, Hatha yoga, Hatha yoga, the body, the movement, the training, fitness training of yoga, it really doesn’t touch things.
Vie: Yeah.
Tim: So there are certain things like it doesn’t do a lot for your back. There’s not a lot of poses that really target your back, like chaturanga targets your chest.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: So, so in that, the five hours a week, we don’t do yoga.
Vie: Yeah.
Tim: We do cross training, I guess the term would be. So the first step is how do you become physically fit in that five hours a week. Because if your house is burning, you don’t start doing sun salutations to put it out. But you have to run, you have to carry things.
Tim: You have to do stuff that yoga poses might assist you, but they’re not going to actually really assist you because you might not ever jog, you might never sprint in your daily life and your yoga practice doesn’t teach sprinting. Now there’s a lot of benefits to yoga. I’m not saying that there isn’t and sun salutations are great, great practice, but they’re not running.
Vie: Yeah, exactly. It’s not, it’s not fully functional. Right. It’s it’s not the training that, it doesn’t target what you would need to do in an emergency situation.
Tim: It’s not teaching you to carry a human body, your child, your grandma, your wife, your husband, your whatever. It doesn’t teach you to be able to pick that person up that might be injured and get them out of harm’s way.
Vie: Exactly. Exactly. So it’s not, and that’s why you look. So in that part, the big idea of the ayurvedic prepping is that do whatever you can ahead of time, so you don’t have to react in, you know, when the emergency happens. You can act, because you are prepared enough. So you can take action, but taking action is going to be more effective than the random reaction.
Tim: Yes. Yes. So if you take action on doing certain things that will assist you and even like jogging, jogging, I’m not even talking about jogging because jogging, you’re not going to run three miles. You need to be able to get from point A to point B very quickly. So sprinting would be a much better functional training for prepping.
Vie: Exactly. Yes.
Tim: Crawling on the ground. How many people can actually do what’s called bear crawls.
Vie: Yep.
Tim: Be able to get under things without hurting your back without hurting your knees. There’s not a lot of poses that actually teach what a good bear crawl would do for a person.
Vie: Exactly. Lifting, lifting something in the realistic way, how you would lift, your, well another person, and in more realistic ways, how would you lift a heavy load to put in your car to go somewhere
Tim: So deadlifts. Deadlifts are very important. And you don’t have to deadlift 5,000 pounds because you should never have to lift 5,000 pounds, but being able to deadlift something, being able to do one of the other ones that we always did, and we still do, farmers walks.
Vie: Oh my goodness. Yeah. Farmer’s walk.
Tim: And farmer walk is basically just taking weight and putting it in your hands and walking with it. And then the more advanced is putting one pound of weight in one side and a different pound of weight in the other side and walking with it.
Vie: Yeah. Rucksack walk.
Tim: Rucksack walk. Yes. Those are things that are basically functional, if everything is starting to go weird.
Vie: Exactly. Exactly. And they all target, the idea is strengthen your core enough to be able to be, to be functional when the emergency happens.
Tim: Yup. And so to take that
Vie: We are not talking CrossFit competitions.
Tim: No.
Vie: That’s not, not, not, not realistic training for a situation like this.
Tim: Yup. So what we’re talking about is taking one hour a day and adding, I’m not, we’re not even talking about doing an hour of fitness a day. We’re just saying in that hour, add some functional training and functional training is a very specific style of training that fits each person differently.
Tim: It’s not the whole thing that - Oh, I teach functional training — and it’s the same exercise for everybody. It’s not. So functional training for prepping.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: There’s a huge difference. And being fit is one of the main things. Do you, how far do you have to walk? How, do you have to sprint? Your grip strength is huge. Grip strength is huge. Just carrying a kettlebell is great for grip strength. And if you can’t afford a kettlebell, there’s other things that you can get for free.
Vie: A bucket with rocks, a bucket with dirt.
Tim: So there’s a lot of different things. So when you start looking at the five hours that we’re going to continue talking about, add some of this stuff into each one of those days, don’t take the full hour and do it, unless you want to. But we’re not saying that. Just doing a couple sprints takes less than five minutes and it starts getting your body prepped. So
Vie: We’ll be right back with a lot more stuff for the five-hour, stay tuned.
Tim: And we’re back.
12:28 Tim: And we’re talking about basically fitness, some forms of fitness, that is unrelated to yoga. And then I also want to get into this five hours in the week because you’re not going to be spending a lot; Well, you can. We’re, we’re talking about how we do it.
Tim: And so we don’t spend a lot of time with, basically poses that are almost, actually are useless. Because like fish.
Vie: That’s not, that’s outside the five hour. We don’t teach poses,
Tim: But even in our own practice, when we’re, we’re doing things because I don’t want to waste, we don’t waste an hour just on yoga, every day. Because there’s, there’s so many of the poses that if you actually really look at them, they’re useless.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: All they are there for is to look pretty. They have very little benefits. Actually they have, there’s other poses in yoga that have a lot more benefits with a lot less,
Vie: Risk of injury.
Tim: Yes. So, and I’m bringing up fish because that’s one of them. There’s several more, but fish is one that I don’t even know why people still teach it today.
Vie: I am not sure.
Tim: Because we actually sent out some different questions to groups of yoga teachers and almost all of them teach fish. And so, why do you teach fish? And their answers was - Oh, it does this, it does this, it does this, Oh, counter indication is this, it takes, I make sure that I show each person in class how to do it -
Tim: So there’s all these reasons why they teach it. But none of them actually gave benefits that you could not do from like reverse tabletop.
Vie: Exactly.
14:14 Tim: So I know I’m running into a tangent, but what I’m, what I’m trying to get across is don’t practice things that take too much time and are not beneficial for your body. Like the three minutes it takes to practice fish. You can do,
Vie: You can do the sprinting.
Tim: You can finish your sprinting. Yeah. So that’s what I’m trying to get to is I don’t, I don’t care about the daily practice of yoga that you’re doing or what you teach on the weekend or what you teach in the evening. That’s not what I’m talking about, that you can teach fish if you want to, because you know, this is the United States and we’re allowed to do whatever we want, still, sort of, but
Vie: Most of our listeners don’t teach yoga probably,
Tim: But fish is one that is a waste of time where sprinting is a lot more important. Three minutes of, give me another post, of warrior one, warrior one to make sure everybody’s in the proper stance, you can do, two sets of, whatever walk, farmers walk.
Vie: Exactly.
Vie: Or plow.
Tim: Plow, plow another wasteful pose. By the time you do plow, if you cut out plow, you cut out warrior one, you cut out standing head to knee,
Vie: Wheel.
Tim: You cut out wheel.
Vie: Headstand.
Tim: You cut out headstand and you can have the workout that we just talked about and become more functional because you don’t go into a headstand when you’re trying to get, save people in a fire.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: There’s no need for it. So the, our concept is do things that you may need to do if something happens.
Vie: Absolutely. It's how high maintenance is, what you’re doing and, what are the return on your time and energy investment for that high maintenance.
Tim: But we’ll talk about poses in another series. So back to this series of prepping, so there’s things that you should be looking at and each person is different. So each person really has to sit down and think, what would I need to do to strength train in the week, the five days, that’s only a couple of minutes that will get me prepped so that I can do something if something bad happens. And then there’s also the concept of you want to know skills.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: But before we get into skills, breath-work.
Tim: Breath-work works for everything. Because you will need to, and we talked about breath work in the last one, is that you need to be able to control your breath no matter what’s happening.
Vie: Exactly. Because you need, you need to get in, enough oxygen and you need to use it wisely for your ATP, right, for your energy, the energy of life. Also breath work will help your mental state. So being able to regulate your breath, is helping you regulate your mind. And you need to be able to be calm under pressure. So breath work is extremely important and it only takes a couple of minutes. So within that hour in your day, just take five minutes max and regulate your breath. Practice, breathing in through the nose, out through the nose. Slowly.
18:03 Tim: One of the things that I like to do, and we used to do this in SWAT training was, we would get the guys running, pushups, pull ups, just things that got the heart rate rolling. And then they had to shoot.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: So you had to be able to calm your breath and still hit target.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: So breath work is one of the things that I’ve taken through my entire, actually, since I was like 12 years old, because that’s when I started learning it. I took it through my entire life and I will the rest of my life. It was able to calm me so I could then focus under high stress situations.
Vie: Exactly. S when you are, when you are sprinting, for example, when you are sprinting and you catch yourself breathing through the mouth, because that’s what sprinting does. Then when you walk for a little bit, how quickly can you recover to go into your nose breathing? And that’s breath work in and of itself.
Tim: Yup. And then even trying to sprint by breathing through your nose.
Vie: Exactly. Exactly.
Tim: So there’s a lot of these things that you can attach the breath work to. So you don’t have to, it’s great to set five minutes aside, 10 minutes aside for breath work, but you also want to add that breath work to your fitness training.
Vie: Yes. To your functional movement for the prepping. Absolutely. Being, being able to be in control of your body and your breath and being able to be in control of your body and your breath simultaneously is even more challenging. And it is the greatest preparation you can do for a type of emergency.
Tim: So I want to say bye bye again for a couple of seconds. And we’ll be right back to talk about studying. Because if we talk about studying now, it’s going to go way past the 10 minute mark.
Vie: Ok, stay tuned.
20:15 Tim: And we’re back. And we’re still talking about Benjamin Franklin’s five-hour rule. And so one of the rules that he did in that five hours was he would study.
Vie: Yes.
Tim: Now in the Ayurvedic world, not in the Ayurvedic world, well yeah, in the Ayurvedic world, but also in the prepping world, you want to study things that will help you to survive and then thrive. So if you know how to do things that will help you survive, you automatically go to thriving. You thrive through everything because if you have to learn something quickly, that is going to put you in survival mode again. And survival mode is not a good place to be in.
Vie: Yeah. Not for long, not for long.
Tim: So I want to talk about each person’s going to be different. So if you live in a condo, that’s going to be different than if you live on the water, which will be different than if you live on a boat, which will be different if you live on a goat and so forth. Yes.
Tim: But there are things that you want to look at, like, do you know how to sew? Can you sew your own clothes if you need it? Can you sharpen your own knife? And I’m talking not about stabbing people knife, I’m talking about, can you sharpen your knife to be able to cut your vegetables or your meat during times of needs? What happens if you break your knife, can you then fix it or do you have to go to somebody to fix it? Can you charge stuff in your home because you studied solar? Can you, let’s see what else,
Vie: have, you have enough medication for whatever you need.
Tim: So have you studied what you need to be able to stay safe. And...
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Episode Transcript
Tim: Hello, this is Tim
Vie: and this is Vie and we welcome you to another episode of the Spartan mind strength podcast.
Tim: And today is number
Vie: Four of the Ayurvedic prepper series. Stay tuned. We’ll be right back.
Tim: And we’re back. And, but before we start, did you subscribe, did you share, did you like, did you comment or not? Anyway we’re getting ready to start the ayurvedic prepper, but who is it brought by?
Vie: This is brought to you by the fascia fanatic Cherica Voyles LMT offering massage and body work in Northeast Georgia.
Tim: And she’s also doing personal training with yoga and more of a functional training style.
Vie: Exactly. And she’s just starting that and all her contact information is in the show notes, which you should always check out the show notes because we put a lot of useful links there. And we don’t always say when we do it.
Tim: Yep. So today we’re going to be talking about ayurvedic prepping again, and, just to go over what ayurvedic prepping is, ayurvedic prepping is not the things that you see on like YouTube and stuff, where they say by 80,000 bullets, have chickens running in your apartment.
Vie: Have food for a year.
Tim: There’s some preppers out there that are very intense in their thoughts and they may be right, they may not be. But we’re going into more of a look at what an ayurvedic prepper would be. And today we’re going to really get into what an ayurvedic prepper is. And they’re someone that
Vie: Who’s learning, who has prepared themselves to adapt to any situation. An ayurvedic prepper is always preparing to adapt. And what that means is that he’s ready when the dynamic balance is starting to go a little bit off, is ready to ride those waves pretty much and create a balance again.
Tim: So, so we talked about the first one was on, your home, trying to keep it, keep your home in good shape
Vie: And what not to do and talking about the path of least harm.
Tim: Yep. And the second one was more on food. And the third one was actually on a, like, electricity.
Vie: Yeah. Utilities, electricity mainly. Yeah.
Tim: And this all comes from basically the rule of three and the rule. There’s a lot of different rules of three. In survival, they basically touch, this is sort of where we are taking it, but we’re taking it more of an ayurvedic look at the rule of three.
Tim: So in prepping, or in survival, they talk about the rule of three is, three minutes without air, three hours without a cover and shelter, three days without water, three weeks without food and three months without hope. Now we’re going to shift that to be more of an ayurvedic look.
Vie: Yeah.
Tim: And the first one I want to talk about is the mitochondria, which is more important than all of those, because mitochondria dies has to be replenished every three seconds.
Vie: The ATP, the mitochondria in our cells is what produces the ATP, the infamous adenosine triphosphate. Anyone who has been in a gym, long enough, recognizes the term ATP, right?
Tim: Yes because of creatine, it’s huge for ATP.
Vie: Exactly. Our body, we can’t survive even three seconds without ATP that is produced by our mitochondria. And when we say ATP, ATP is truly the energy of life, our body needs ATP to function.
Tim: And where we’re taking ATP is, it actually learned to adapt.
Vie: Yeah, exactly.
Tim: So that’s why ATP is almost like the mother of ayurveda.
Vie: Exactly, exactly. So, when someone says, I don’t have, I don’t have energy to deal with this right now, I am too overwhelmed, I’m too exhausted, what they are truly saying is I don’t have enough ATP in me. The mitochondria in my cells don’t produce enough ATP. So, the mitochondria are little bacteria or organelles. And they are in almost all of our cells. And why the mitochondria are so important, and were actually discovered over a hundred years ago, in biology, why they are so important is because they are the oldest, the oldest part of our body. And they are those smart ass guys who learned to use oxygen for their own benefit. So in a place very, very, very far away when everything on earth was dying, due to a really harmful poison, which is now called oxygen, the mitochondria learned to harness the power of the oxygen and turn it into energy. And that’s how they survived.
Tim: And that’s how they adapted.
Vie: They adapted And not only they survived, they thrived. I mean, think about it. They became who we are today.
Tim: Because without them, and again, without ATP, we are dead.
Vie: Exactly. Exactly. So, the idea is that just like our mitochondria, actually we call it our Shakti, our energy, our mother energy, just like the mitochondria learned to adapt. And they, they used oxygen. I mean, think about it. Oxygen was destroying everything on earth. And the mitochondria said, huh, let’s see what we can do with it. And they adapted and they produced ATP and all that stuff.
Vie: So just like they did that, we should learn from the history of existence to adapt.
Tim: So the first thing is you’ve got to make sure that you feed your ATP and we’ll be talking about how to feed that throughout this podcast. And the next thing I want to go into is they talk about now three minutes without oxygen.
Vie: Yeah. And some people can get longer than three minutes. Some people can get shorter than three minutes. And the average though is without oxygen for three minutes, you’re dead.
Vie: Yeah. That’s the average.
Tim: And this also can be, we can adapt to that.
Vie: Exactly. That’s the idea. So when they, when we say on average, we can survive three minutes without oxygen, some people can go longer, some people can go shorter. Someone is for some reason panicking and they die.
Tim: Because they suck up too much air.
Vie: Because they suck up too much air and they die within a minute. So the idea is that we need, we need oxygen to create ATP, right? That’s the, that’s the whole idea is that we need oxygen to create ATP, but how much oxygen we need and how much ATP we can produce with a certain amount of oxygen, it all can be manipulated.
Tim: Because you can manipulate, well, you can manipulate the oxygen, how much you need through breath-work, practicing breath-work.
Vie: Exactly. And so to give again, an example, they say that an average adult takes about 15 to 20 breaths a minute. And it could also be longer than that. It could be 20 to 25 breaths a minute an average adult. Right. But, if you practice breath-work, and if you become a more conscious breather, a better breather, you will all only take about five to seven breaths a minute.
Tim: So even if you can drop it down several breaths, from 19 to
Vie: From 25 to 20 from 20 to 17, from 17 to 14, and you keep going, then you don’t need as much oxygen.
Tim: And I know through scuba diving, that we always dive and we’re the first ones in. And we’re also the last ones out. And a lot of times we come out with a lot of air left in the tank, because we’ve learned to control our breath.
Vie: Exactly. That’s the idea, that’s the idea. So those three minutes without oxygen on average, can be manipulated.
Tim: And they also can be manipulated through meditation. Focus.
Vie: Exactly. Because the idea is that you can make your breath way more effective. And you can use focus exercises to learn to control your breath. And, you can use just simple breathwork exercises to control your breath.
11:37 Tim: Which actually the simple breath-works work much better than the advanced breath-works.
Vie: Exactly. Exactly. And you can use your breath to control your mind. You can use your mind to control your breath. So you can do mental exercises to increase your focus, and that will reflect on your breath. Or you can do breathing exercises to work on your breath and that will reflect on your mind. Because it has been shown over and over and over and over that our breath and our mind are interconnected.
Tim: Well, I’m going to take a quick breath break and we’ll be back in a minute.
Vie: So I can take a breath.
Tim: And I can breathe. So that is breath work. So if you learn to breathe better
Vie: Yes.
Tim: And also through the nose is very important, and you can then manipulate that three minutes.
Vie: Yes, absolutely.
Tim: Through focus and breath work.
Tim: And so the next thing is three hours without some form of shelter from harsh environment. And that also can be manipulated. Because what is harsh environment? It all depends on the person and how they have grown up, or adapted to the weather.
Vie: Exactly. What, what is harsh environment say for someone who cannot tolerate heat of any sort? 75 degrees outside may be harsh.
Tim: In Florida right now, it could be considered harsh being out for some people being outside for three hours.
Vie Exactly, heat and humidity.
Tim: But for other people, they can go out, actually we used to teach paddleboarding for six, seven, eight, nine, 12 hours a day in the middle of the summer in Florida.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: So you can manipulate again, what is harsh environment due to what you continue to train in.
Vie: Exactly. And same with cold. If you, if you prepare yourself for cold weather, then cold is all relative. That’s the whole cold shower thing that we say over and over in, you know, in the morning. Actually that, I saw the results of that dramatically when we were scuba diving in Okinawa, right, and we had no wetsuit.
Tim: We had to adapt to it.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: And that’s also why the military trains in multiple areas, you know, they train in the mountains, they train in the cold, they train in the swamps, they train to be able to adapt to the harsh environment so that if they have to go into harsh environment, it’s easier for them.
Vie: Exactly. And that’s the whole, it’s environmental conditioning, right, the fancy word for it is environmental conditioning. Now that doesn’t mean that you have to do all those things on a regular basis. And you don’t have, you know, there is only so much you can condition yourself in, say high-altitude, or cold weather or incline environment, or say you live in Florida, right. You can’t, you can only do certain things.
Vie: But just even a little bit, just preparing yourself enough for a change, it’s going to make less of a shock to your body when it actually has to do it.
16:00 Tim: Because, let’s say Florida, three days without air conditioning, because of a hurricane hitting, you lost power, that’s going to, that could be considered harsh environment and it can throw off people. It throws off their mental aspect, and then they can’t focus as well, and they start getting angry. Anger then makes bad mistakes and that can then add to more issues.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: So by training your body, just by turning the air conditioner off one day, just one day so that you can see that you can, you can breathe, you can live, you can sleep, you can take a shower all without an air conditioner.
Tim: And then there’s ways that you can do it in the cold is turning off the heat or turning the heat down lower, and then see that you can survive for the one day.
Tim: I know, and what does the stoicism, they talk about sleeping on the floor for one day, sleeping with just a towel, instead of a blanket. And, Sparta used to give their kids only a red cloak and they had to survive with that. So it creates a person that can see that it’s okay not to have things for a couple of days. It gives you the ability to say, this, I will live through. So by continuing to challenge yourself just in little steps, you’ll be able to then, harsh environment is a lot different.
Vie: Exactly. It’s avoid, avoid, always looking for something external to make your, to make yourself comfortable. It’s like, quit seeking comfort 24 seven.
Tim: But that’s what us as humans are.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: We want that comfort. So you actually have to go against that feeling of wanting to create comfort because comfort is good.
Vie: Yeah. Actually, that’s why we have everything we have, right. We were seeking comfort, but
Tim: On occasion you have to turn that comfort off so you don’t become controlled by the comfort.
Vie: Complaisant.
Tim: You don’t become a slave to the comfort.
18:20 Vie: It’s finding that dynamic balance, it all goes back to ayurveda, finding that dynamic balance between comfort and discomfort. It’s finding that fine line between the two. And what happens is because we have so much comfort already in our life, in order to train ourselves for that dynamic balance, it seems like we need to create a lot more discomfort. Does that make sense? Because it makes sense to me. We are so accustomed to a lot, to all this comfort that we have to look for what seems as intense discomfort in order to train ourselves for that dynamic balance.
Tim: And just going back a hundred years you will see that what they lived in is completely different to where we’re living today.
Vie: Exactly, exactly. So, so like turning the air conditioning off, you know, for a few hours, seems like it would kill us because we are so used to the air conditioning.
Tim: But in the old days they built the houses to be without air conditioning. So they, they learned how to work the wind and that. So they, those are things that when you turn the air off, you can now start saying, well, how can I make it cooler?
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: How can I make it warmer If you have to turn, if there’s no heat? How can I do these things so that I can survive and thrive when everything is going weird.
Vie: Exactly. And it’s gonna, the right amount of discomfort is, just like you said, is gonna help kickstart that ingenuity in us to a higher degree. Because we’ll start looking and finding actually, ways to make ourselves less uncomfortable through a lot simpler things. And the most important thing is by having trained in a little bit more controlled environment before the real need kicks in, then we’ll maintain our focus. And that’s, that’s the whole thing, we won’t be as stressed.
Tim: And so the next though is water. They say three days without water. Now that also can be manipulated. Some people won’t be able to make it one day without water. Not that they’ll die because of it, but they’ll, their mind will not let them think that they can survive. And other people can go longer without water because they’ve trained their body to be able to live longer without having to put the water in. And that goes into the concept that more people have died from too much water in today’s world than from not enough water.
Vie: Absolutely. And it all has to do with that hydration, right. How hydrated are we already and how much water do we actually need. A lot, most of the time we don’t need as much water as we think we need. It’s that false thirst that we have, the false sense of thirst because we are depleted of other things, we are depleted of electrolytes, we are depleted of good fat, we are depleted of that internal hydration / internal oleation.
Tim: So with that though, instead of, when you’re looking for water, salt is very important.
Vie: Salt is very important. Potassium.
Tim: You’re also looking for like the lime juice or lemon juice.
Vie: Exactly.
Tim: And also like even a little bit of honey
22:50 Vie: Honey as a carrier, as a carrier for them that helps them absorbed, helps them be absorbed in your body. So basically it’s like that infamous hot yoga’s margarita.
Tim: Yeah. And that’s something you created a long time ago when we were teaching hot yoga.
Vie: Exactly. And it’s like a cup of water, the juice from say half a lime or half a lemon, it depends. Heating lemon, cooling lime. And then quarter teaspoon of a good salt and a few drops of honey. And you mix it, room temperature, adjust to taste.
Tim: So that’s something that most people should, should be doing on a daily basis already to actually create a better
Vie: Better hydration, exactly better hydration. And the reason we need the good hydration is again, to have less stress and stay focused. Because our brain needs electrolytes.
Tim: Yep. So a lot of times they’re talking about, you can only last about three days if you’re in a harsh environment. So if you’ve controlled your harsh environment, now you can last longer without water.
Vie: Exactly. Because the more stressed you are, the more say you start, you start sweating, you start freaking out all those things, the more you’re going to be depleted of electrolytes and everything else.
Vie: And actually one example of how important electrolytes are, is people who are deficient in electrolytes and they keep drinking...
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Episode Transcript
Tim: And today is about the Ayurvedic Prepper - Part 3.
Tim: So today is part 3 of the ayurvedic prepper. And I want to go into a little bit about, again, breaking down the psychoticness of some of the preppers into what do you really need? And so I want to talk about electricity.
Tim: So electricity, and this isn’t - this is one of those things that it doesn’t - you don’t have to prep, to be prepared for an electrical shortage and electrical blackout. It happens constantly here. When we’re in Florida, I know we would go sometimes a day or two when we’re in Georgia, it’s actually a lot more than a day or two sometimes. And the thing is, is if you’re working and you’re especially like us, we work a lot from home. And if you’re working, you need electricity to basically make money and to run your refrigerator. And if you listened to last week’s podcast, run your freezer. And if you lose electricity, you can’t do those things.
Vie: So if you’re working from home, you need to run the refrigerator. But if you’re not working from home, you don’t need to run the refrigerator.
Tim: Okay. You quit listening to what I’m saying. So, but you do need electrical to work from home. And I remember there was a, one of the books we listened to, what was his name, from Miami, Miami, 10 X.
Vie: Grant Cardone
Tim: Because he even talked about how it was his fault for not getting something done because he didn’t prepare for it. So he took full responsibility for not being prepared to have an electrical outage.
Tim: And so that’s the main thing of where I’m going, in a long way of saying, is you should always be prepared no matter what for losing electricity. Now, some people will say, well, the best way to do it is to put solar on your house. And, and we looked into that and actually we were going to spend what, $27,000, we got a company come in, they looked at everything we had, they told us it would cost us $27,000 to be able to do what we want to do.
Tim: We gave them half the money. And then, three months later, they come back and say, well, we lied. Our sales people lied. And that $27,000 doesn’t cover even a fourth of what you guys need. Because, we asked mainly for our water pump because we have a well that is very deep. It’s a 400 foot deep well. And we asked, that was the main thing that we wanted covered. And for $27,000, it still didn’t run the water pump. The only thing, the main thing that we wanted, it wouldn’t run. So we looked at that and I remember we told them no, and they kept some of our money, even though they said that we lied, they still kept some of the money. So they kept over a thousand restocking fee. So, electrical working solar is not sometimes, actually for the most time it’s not cost effective.
Vie: Yes, exactly. Yeah, because there is a lot behind, it’s not as advertised. Let’s put it that way. The reason you’re going to do it for, chances are, unless you really, really do your homework and find, wanting the, I don’t know, one out of a hundred companies.
Tim: Yeah. Probably not, not even that.
Vie: You’re not going to get it. It’s false advertisement actually,
Tim: Because one of the reasons why it was so expensive was we wanted it to run when we were, when we lost power. And that was a big chunk of it was, oh, you can’t run it when you’re off power. So what’s the use of getting that, if you can’t run it off power. So we had, there was, I think it was like $10,000 more to do that. And so everything they kept throwing at us was basically more money, more money, more money. And they’re supposedly one of the better companies in Georgia. And yet they still lied about everything. And then they blamed it on their sales reps.
Vie: Yes. Which shows right away there isn’t enough knowledge out there. There isn’t enough education. People don’t know, the technical people don’t know what’s available, they don’t communicate there are million things that are going on that I can.
Tim: So I digress about that. So solar, we looked into it, it wasn’t worth it to do the whole house. And we’ll talk a little bit more about solar in a little bit, but for solar, it wasn’t worth it. Wind, it just doesn’t work. It’s not even close to being cost effective. So we stayed on the grid for electrical. And now for us, we could, we could have switched to propane because where we are, we don’t have natural gas because they can’t run a wire to us or run a line to us. And so we could go propane, but we chose not to go propane mainly for two different reasons.
Vie: You mean for a generator.
Tim: Yes. For a generator. Main one is - and also you can go gas, a smaller one that can run certain things. But we chose not to go with that because of two things: they’re loud and they smell.
Tim: So us having power on the mountain, if we lose power, for whatever reason doesn’t work well. So we ended up going with solar, but we went with a small solar generator that was a lot less expensive. Now it still doesn’t run our water, our water pump, our well pump but it runs everything else that we need run. And so, so we can run and with a couple of solar panels, we can keep the refrigerator and the freezer running without any problem. And then we bought a little XP10.
Vie: XP10 the coolest device ever. We got that a few years.
Tim: It’s so great that we actually bought two of them. So we actually have three types of generators. One is the Kodiak Inergy and that’s solar. Now, some people love it, some people don’t, it depends on who you are. We have had no problems with it. And then we got two of the XP10’s and the XP10’s can run lights and they can run iPads, phones and they can start your truck. You can use it to jump your truck, your car, so it works very, and not just one jump. I think I’ve used it when my battery was going bad, I jumped the truck about seven times with that, without even having to do a recharge. So having little backups like that. So for us, we could run our computer and don’t forget, you still have the batteries in your vehicles that you can run things off of, because we actually have a hookup that we can plug anything into our car battery, the truck battery, and it will run fine. And so that’s one of the things. It actually even runs power tools.
Vie: Exactly. Well, actually that one, will even recharge the Kodiak Inergy, the big generator that we are talking about.
Tim: And then with this also, you can take it on the road (the Kodiak Inergy). Yes. So again, we always look at stuff that we can use everywhere. So we can carry it on the road when we’re camping, when we’re traveling, and that is our electrical the entire time. So we don’t have to use the car battery to run stuff, but we have that access if we wanted.
Vie: Yep. Absolutely. Well, the reason we looked into the XP 10 years ago was in case the battery died in the truck. What if we were in the middle of nowhere?
Tim: Yup. We also did a lot of a standup pedaling and we had 15 paddleboards, inflatables that we would take people out on. And in order to properly inflate a padaleboard, you’re supposed to turn your car engine off to hook up to the battery. And so some people were having their batteries die, ours never did, but that’s one of the main reasons why we got the XP 10. But we’ll come back to charge up our energy in a couple of seconds.
Tim: And we’re back with a charge.
Vie: And then you say, I have a bad sense of humor.
Tim: Yes, I do. So those are two things we got, was the Inergy solar, Kodiak Inergy energy and we use, we’ve picked up a couple of their panels that you can hook up.
Vie: Yes, five solid panels and one fancy, very portable and flexible.
Tim: That we can take to the beach and use it to do a trickle charge while we’re teaching and stuff. Now with that, we actually even were able to hook them up to our camper because we actually built a trailer that fits them so we can actually travel and have those charging the generator, or we can actually even plug the generator into the truck while we’re driving and it charges. So there’s a lot of different ways that you can use basically a solar generator and it’s a lot more, it’s a lot lighter than most of the generators.
Vie: It’s awesome. I love it.
Tim: And it’s, it’s a lot less money than some of the generators that are out there. And with that, I’m just going to go with the gas and the propane are just heavy and they smell. They’re cheaper in the long run, but they are a lot, it takes a lot more out of you to keep them doing the maintenance and everything on.
Vie: Yup. And out of the environment too.
12:47 Tim: Yes. So with that, the next thing is we also carry power tools. Why do you have power tools? Well, the batteries for the power tools also can run flashlights and other things. So we use the battery set from our power tools to light up things when we need to. So we can light up the back of the truck. We can light up the tent, we can light up all these things without having to plug in anywhere and it lights it up quite well. And it hardly uses, now with LEDs, it hardly uses any of the battery. So those are a couple of things that we looked at so that we’re always prepared. So no matter where we are, if we lose electricity, we have that. I’m just going to toss in a little thing. Have batteries. Always keep some batteries for your headlamp, for whatever you’re using, keep extra ones and know where they are. So if you do lose power, you can kick on the equipment and you have extra stuff to run things with. Yes. I know that, for the, XP 10, I think we can even run our TV off of it. So you can run TV and cable, at least for ours, the wifi or not wifi, but the, what is that?
Vie: DirecTV, yes, the satellite.
Tim: Yep. So you can do a lot with a little, a little bit of battery, especially using the solar.
Vie: Yes, absolutely. Yeah. It’s a, all you have to do is when you look at what you have available, say, how can I make this work with that? That’s all. But the idea is to do these things before you need to use them. And then it’s, it’s not as difficult as you think, it’s a lot simpler than you think.
Tim: I know when I was in the military, we would have to do drills. You would have to prepare for different things that were happening so that you would know what to do if it actually did happen. And I know that it did several times. I know on the ship I was on, it caught on fire three times. And so I had, because I was one of the firemen, I had to be able to put that fire out and I was able to be there within seconds to put the fire out. Because if you’re out on the water, you’re dead, if you’re not prepared for those types of things and you don’t plan for them. And that’s the same thing with the electrical have it set up so that you know it works. Have it set up so it’s easy to get to. Have a flashlight near you at three o’clock in the morning in case you don’t have any power. It doesn’t have to be a fancy one, just have it in the nightstand, have it somewhere.
Vie: I remember when I was 12 years old and I was spending the night at my grandma’s in Greece because my mom was flying to see my dad in the morning. And in the middle of the night, there was a big earthquake, like 6.9 or something. And we lived on the sixth floor. So my mom was on the sixth floor and 6.9 right underneath you, in the city is a big earthquake, right? So everybody’s panicking, they don’t know what to do in the middle of the night. My mom was prepared because we always had certain flashlights at the exact place that was easy to grab and using that was able to go down the stairs and help other people that were just freaking out. Just a simple thing, you know.
Tim: And those are, those are things that you will probably have to use them at least once in your life. And having them is a great, it takes a lot of stress. You go from just surviving to be able to do whatever you need to, to thrive. So just by having certain things, you can literally start doing better.
Vie: And the reason I even remember this is because she never mentioned it, but the neighbors, one of the neighbors was forever grateful to her for having just that flashlight.
Tim: Yep. Yep. So batteries and in today’s world, the lighting systems are so easy to run off the generators. I know we were at REI a couple months back and they had this little system that, actually it, it was solar and it ran lights for a nice sized room. It ran radio and it would charge your phone or your iPad. And it was like $99.
Vie: Yeah, exactly.
Tim: And it had all these great reviews and it was only $99. And $99, you can toss that in your trunk and be able to run things wherever you are. Or you can keep it in your house. The solar was so easy. It lit up the whole upstairs.
17:50 Vie: There is a lot out there as long as you, you figure out - okay, should something happen in terms of power, what, what would I like to be able to address first? And you go from there and you start simple.
Tim: And it can even take it into a little bit more advanced is knowing what breakers run, what lights. Know what, look at what you need to be plugging in. Because I know like if you were going to put a bigger system, if we do something like that at, at the house, we would have to be able to turn certain breakers off or have certain things off to be able to run a bigger generator. But with the little one, we know exactly how quick it is to plug it in. And we know how long it takes to keep it, how long a full charge will run the refrigerator.
Vie: And those are things that, again, you want to test beforehand. For example, I know some of the people complaining about the Kodiak Inergy, I think Inergy doesn’t even make the Kodiak anymore. They have an upgraded
Tim: Yeah. They have a fancier one and they have one that hooks up to a, that’s a full battery thing that does another big group of time.
Vie: But anyway, one of the things people were complaining about was, well it’s not going to do the blender and the hairdryer and this and that, and it’s like, you know. Okay those are things that you need to figure out before you purchase something, know the...
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Episode TranscriptThis is episode two of the Ayurvedic Prepper series.
So the first podcast in the series, we talked a little bit about, home protection, not a lot, but a little bit. And we’re going to talk more about home protection in, in an upcoming podcast, but I want to get into —
In order for an ayurvedic prepper, actually all preppers, but mainly ayurvedic prepper - cause there’s a lot of preppers that are just, wow, especially in this one.
01:57 But an ayurvedic prepper is you want to make sure you take care of the three things of survival. And one is shelter. Two is food and three is water.
So if you aren’t prepared with those three things, you are going to think about survival, your brain will not go into thrive mode, it’s only survive mode. So if you, if something bad happens, which it will, because it is, you know that you have shelter, you know you have food and you know that you have water.
So the first podcast we talked about it a little bit, the shelter, this one, I want to talk about food because we do this one constantly. So if we’re traveling, if we’re in the mountains, if we’re on the beach, if we’re in a train, if we’re on a plane.. Wherever we are, we always make sure that we have food that will last us several days, if not longer.
03:10 And ayurveda — because I just read this from some interesting person out of California, who is an Ayurvedic practitioner, said, in order to thrive, you should never eat, leftovers, and you should never eat food in a can.
And I know that ancient ayurveda always talked about never eating food in a can because they had lots of cans, right? Or food from a bag.. Oh yes. Yes. Because they always had, they had bags. I remember in one of the first books of ayurveda, they talk about not eating groceries from your refrigerator.
But where did this come from? Because it doesn’t make sense that you have to throw out your leftovers.
Exactly. Yep. So ayurveda, back to, is a, is a blueprint, gives us the big picture of how to thrive, right, the traditional ayurveda, which means it’s not set in stone, because the context is different.
When ayurveda was documented, the real ayurveda, before 500 AD, they didn’t have the refrigeration that we have today, right? And they didn’t have the processes of developing packaging, right? That we have today.
In fact, that wasn’t until, the, almost the early 19 hundreds.
Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, even in the whole industrial revolution is what gave us the ability to preserve food, right?
Yeah. Because back in the, even the 18 hundreds, you didn’t want to eat a day old meat because it would have killed you.
Exactly. Or fish or all of that. So, so yes, leftovers, you shouldn’t even be going near them, the days that Ayurveda was documented. Full of stuff that will kill you. Exactly. But that’s the, that’s how, even how granola came about, right? Because the leftovers were causing dysentery.
And Kellogg’s created good grains that were better than bad meat. And that’s why the people were feeling better. So history of food shows why way back then you didn’t want to eat leftovers, but today leftovers are perfect.
Exactly. So the other thing is that, the whole canned food or food out of a bag, can be the way that they phrase it. One of the things they say is that it has no prana, sounds cute, right? Prana, as in life force.
It actually sounds more mystical.
Exactly. Exactly.
Because no food has prana when it’s dead. Plants don’t have prana when they’re dead.
No, nothing has, there is no life force, right? Life force. So something that is dead has no life force, right. So, they say canned food or food out of a bag has no life force, as opposed to, raw food or freshly cooked food that has life force.
07:00 Well, and I am going to agree to some degree that fresh hamburger that just came from moo-cow is a lot healthier for you than canned food. But that doesn’t mean that canned food is bad for you.
But it doesn’t have anything to do with the life force, as in that thing, it’s not alive any more. So, what truly, what food gives you is, food gives you energy, right?
Food is information. That’s what food is in reality. If you want to call it life force, call it life force, I have no problem with that. It is actually your life force.
But don’t say that this freshly cooked food has life force as opposed to something that’s still nutritious that comes out of a bag because it has been packaged there with love and great intention to give you energy.
Now I do have a question because you just said two things that are contradicting.
First, you’re saying that ayurveda says that canned food has less life force than fresh food, say a salad. Yes. But, but then ayurveda also says don’t ever eat a salad because salads are bad on your gut.
So there’s a lot of lies in people, and if you look at what ayurvedic practitioners say, they’re not giving good information. They’re not giving information that if you look at, you will say that makes no sense.
Freshly cooked food is not the same as raw food in reality, but it’s being presented as the same. They’ll say freshly cooked food, raw food, natural food as opposed to canned food or food out of a bag.
So also you see a lot, raw food placed in a bag, right. In vegetables. So what do you want me to do with that? So some practitioners will say, oh, this food is fresh, the packaging is better, you can eat it. Some others will tell you, oh no, it’s still packaged, it has still lost its life force, don’t eat it. Well, the bottom line is that traditional ayurveda says don’t eat raw food. That’s the bottom line, because it’s bad for your gut. And we see that today. Science proves it. So the packaging doesn’t somehow take the life force away from the food, right? Or, gives it life force. There is a lot that’s going on, that has nothing to do with traditional ayurveda.
So, I want to come back, do a little break here and come back and talk more about now, how to ayurvedic prep with food. Now that we’ve said how much ayurveda is wrong, at least the commodity ayrveda is wrong. And, we’ll get into what you can do to stay healthy and thrive no matter what’s happening to you — that actually makes sense in English.
Break!
11:34 And we’ve got a lot to say, so a plastic container in the fridge that has spinach in it is better for you than a frozen spinach in a freezer - that’s what they would tell you.
But, but they’re both picked same time. One’s quick frozen. The other sits for days. And then most people eat it raw and it screws up their stomach or they get salmonella from it.
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah.
So the concept of a lot of the commodity ayurveda actually is making people sicker and I’m not sure if it’s a conspiracy to make money, to control - or, or peak stupidity — or yeah, they just don’t know and they don’t want to learn. Yeah. But that’s a whole another podcast too.
So we do have canned food, we don’t eat it every day. But we do keep canned food and we keep canned food that’s nutrient dense. We keep canned food that we would eat. Now we eat spam, on occasion, and I know, oh my God, spam terrible. Look at what’s in it. Look at the process and look at the people that are in a blue zone that eat spam daily. When we’re in Okinawa, spam is all over the place, and Okinawa’s blue zone. And everybody says it’s all vegetarian or vegan there. The soup that is named after Okinawa has eggs and spam and pig and soy, and soy, but freshly made soy - exactly, not the genetically modified and almost zero vegetables.
And actually I think there was zero vegetables. It was hard to find vegetables there, because we didn’t stay in the American area, we stayed in an area that was actually very traditional. And it was very interesting. Oh, and they have spam sushi and they have spam this - in very pretty packaging.
So people that are living way over the age of a hundred eat spam. Yup. So now I’m not, again, I’m not saying that it’s, it’s the main staple. Exactly. But vegetables aren’t the main staple there either. And that’s where I want to get with is, vegetables are not really nutrient dense. No they aren’t.
You’ll have to prepare, some of the vegetables, if you prepare them in a particular way, they can have enough nutrients, but still they are not nutrient dense compared to other foods.
Yeah. So we do go and we get, we’ll go buy a half a cow. Yeah. We’ll go buy a pig. Yeah. we actually just picked up a lamb a couple of weeks ago.
14:54 So we do buy in bulk and toss it in the freezer. I was taught that from my parents. we had a huge freezer. We would go buy a cow or we would go by or not go by, but my dad would kill a deer, go hunting for rabbits. We’d have a whole bunch of rabbits in the freezer. So we always had food, even though we didn’t have a lot of money growing up, we always had food. I remember my dad would wake me up at three in the morning because somebody hit a deer and we would grind that thing up and put it in the freezer. So it was, it was nothing to have meat. And meat is very nutrient dense.
It’s a very nutrient dense type of food. And having meat, eating meat that has come a certain way, it is very, very good not just for you, but for your environment, it’s very good for the planet. And you said it, you know, the deer was hit right on the road and you actually getting the deer and preparing it and eating it, nose to tail as much as possible, is the best thing you can do for, for the planet for yourself and the planet. It’s so respectful.
It’s and that’s where in Okinawa also, that you mentioned Okinawa that they eat like that. Everything they eat, they do it with respect, respect and gratitude.
They were always very happy at the restaurants when we went there. And we were eating soup that had joints, joints and cartilage soup. Yeah. Because nothing had English on it. So we just pointed and whatever came to the table we ate. And every time we pointed at something, they brought it. And none of it was a salad.
No, no, and they were, and it was delicious food, they were bringing it so happily, and they were just happy to watch us eat it with so much happiness. Well, I’m a sight, I am a sight to watch when I eat.
So, so for us, one of the main things is getting the nutrient dense food in bulk and keep it frozen, because freezing it keeps it healthy for us. And then we take it out and we eat it. So that would be one of the first things we would suggest is if you can get a big freezer and buy meat in bulk. Or fish, if you have the opportunity.
Yup. because yeah, we get a lot of fish too. So, one of the things is, and we’ll put links to the place where we get meat from and the place we get fish from in the show notes, show notes.
18:10 But, I talk to all of our vegetarian and vegan friends and they eat every two to three hours, at the longest they eat every four hours and they constantly talk about being hangry. Is that the word? Yes, hangry.
Yes. Because they need, they need food, they need food, they need food. They can’t go, and this is what I want to go into next, before we talk about canned food, is they can’t fast very well. Not saying you can’t fast, but it’s more difficult if you fast on carbs versus fast on fat and protein.
Exactly. So the idea is that when you look at not having to think about survival on a daily basis — the idea is to be able to eat as little food as possible because it sustains you. That’s where the nutrient dense and diverse comes in. So if you have to eat every three to four hours, you cannot thrive because you’re constantly thinking about food.
Yeah, exactly. And one of the other things is — there’s a lot more work in dealing with the vegetables, every two to three hours, every four hours, because you’re constantly, how am I going to cook it, how am I going to eat it, and you’re always in — So if something does happen, what are you going to do? Because vegetables go bad pretty quickly. Yeah. You got to eat a lot of them to be able to maintain the calorie, caloric intake that you have to have, and you need a lot of, you just need a lot.
And so for, if you have good meat, you don’t need as much and you can go longer without it. So I know that ayurveda also talks about, and some people can do this, some people can’t do this, but ayurveda — 12 hours.
12 hours — In a 24 hour period, you always wanna leave at least a 12 hour window for your body to digest, absorb, assimilate, and cleanse. Because if you don’t leave at least 12 hours in a 24 hour period of no caloric intake, you can drink water, but no caloric intake, then your body is never going to be able to cleanse.
Excellent. We’ll be right back to talk about canned — canned what?
Break!
21:20 Canned meat — We do have some canned vegetables, but not a lot. We don’t want to over vegetablize. Yes.
21:30 So we see the prepper world, they talk about having like 30 pounds of dried beans. They have 30 pounds of rice. They have 80 pounds of lentils. And then you ask them — how you gonna eat that? And they’re like, basically if we really, really have to.
What and then you look at what is the - yeah, there’s a caloric aspect to it, but there’s not a nutrient - they are not nutrient dense. So, if you’re putting all of these beans and carbs, like lentils and stuff and things in your stockpile, you’re not going to eat them.
Yeah. And remember those things also, if you’re going to eat them, you have to prepare them the proper way. So would you, would they soak them over night, would they rinse them a few times, would they boil them enough?
They are not prepped. You have to work and you’re giving up your water, you’re giving up all these different things to get something that’s not that nutrient dense.
Now we have food that, we keep in cans and so some of the things that we will keep is, we have, what’s the meat that we get in a big - Keystone beef - Keystone and it’s a little salty, so don’t add salt - don’t add salt - but it lasts for like five to seven years in a can, and all it is is meat and salt and it’s sea salt, even.
So you’re getting a good piece of meat that was quickly cooked, quickly canned, and now you can eat it whenever you want. Now we’re not saying we eat this every day, but we do eat it on occasion and it isn’t bad. It’s actually quite good. We make it, we do the, sometimes I’ll make the hamburgers with a fresh hamburger or with some beans, refried beans, which refined beans are a lot better for you than beans and rice.
A lot easier on your gut. Yeah.
And we’ll have it with cream - yes, heavy whipping cream.
You don’t have to prepare it because it’s already been prepared. Exactly. So we keep the beans, we do have beans, but we keep them as refried because they’re already taken care of so you’re getting the least amount of anti-nutrients in it, so you’re getting the better nutrients and less anti-nutrients.
With that though, we do have rice, but it’s not a staple, we’ll add it to certain things, and it does last a long time. But we definitely don’t have five gallons of it or 50 pounds of it, or whatever those…
We treat rice as a dessert.
And then, tuna fish, we have tuna fish and salmon and we get that from the wild planet.
Also, the new company we’re going to be getting a lot of stuff from - the vital choice - yes and we’ll put a link for vital choice in there because they’re also a great, great seafood company. And they do have can, but I want to go after their other food too.
So, so those are things that you can keep in, and because we eat meat and because we eat fish, we add it to different things. I know for when we go traveling, when we’re teaching, especially when we’re doing a lot of the, sup yoga teacher trainings, I would make a couple of cans of tuna fish, put them up. And that was set up for us. We were healthy, we ate good, we had eggs, we had different things in there. Olive oil. And, it sustained us for the entire day. And we didn’t have to eat a lot. And we were able to teach a 12 to 13 hour day. And, it was easy for us.
25:41 Where if we were eating vegetables, you know, we had a lot of vegetables, we would have to be snacking throughout the entire day. In fact, we watched a lot of the students having to eat constantly.
Yes. The bags of carrots and nuts.
So canned food, if you are going to buy canned food and I would suggest having canned food on site, because it’s easy to store, you can stick it under your bed, if you want to. The only place you don’t want to do it is keep it in a hot area. You want to keep it in a cooler area because it’ll last longer. But, having 10 cans of say spam or Keystone, that
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