America has Traffic Engineers. The Netherlands has Transportation Engineers. One is concerned with moving as many cars as possible, the other builds transportation systems. In this podcast, I'm joined by Steffen Berr, an American Traffic Engineer turned Transportation Engineer who now lives in the Netherlands. We discuss the myopic approach taken by Traffic Engineers in America, and how it ultimately ruins cities.

Steffen has a great article that is worth reading:

https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/america-has-no-transportation-engineers

Strong Towns Conversation with an Engineer: https://youtu.be/P9BUyWVg1xI

Wonderland Road: https://youtu.be/Ds-v2-qyCc8

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