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  • 4.07 How to be a more strategic HR leader - with Indy Lachhar, CPO

    Tired of being told to “be more strategic” with no real guidance on what that means?

    Chief People Officer Indy Lachhar shares her real-world perspective on how HR can think and act more strategically without relying on textbook definitions or theory.

    She reframes strategy as a daily mindset, focusing on staying aligned to the real goals of the business, building trusted relationships, and focusing on the few things that really drive value. This last one involves getting better at saying no.

    We explore how asking better questions, not jumping to solutions, and holding firm on what matters helps HR shift from task delivery to value creation. Indy also shares her weekly reflection habit, how she approaches saying no, and the shift from delivering initiatives to shaping impact.

    If you're in HR and want to feel more confident and focused and operate with more impact,  this conversation covers helpful tips and techniques to ask great questions and adopt a strategic mindset.

    Key Points Discussed

    • Strategy starts with aligning people work to business outcomes, not building plans
    • HR must listen well, and ask better questions to uncover what really matters
    • Relationships are the foundation of strategic influence
    • Focus on 3–5 things that truly drive value, not long to-do lists
    • HR's unique visibility gives it powerful insight into what drives performance
    • Strategic clarity often means saying no to the wrong work
    • Reflection helps you show up with purpose and intention each week

    Key Takeaway

    Being strategic in HR isn’t about theory or a one-off activity. It’s a daily habit about aligning with business goals, listening with intent, asking better questions, and choosing what truly creates value.

    If you liked this, you might like these related episodes:

    S4 01 - What does it mean to think strategically at work?

    S1 10 - How to align your strategy to business goals

    S1 07 -Taking HR from Reactive to Transformational

    About Indy Lachhar

    Indy Lachhar is Chief People Officer at Robert Walters Group, where she leads the global people strategy and a team of 140 HR professionals across 30 markets. With a strong track record in leadership development, organisational culture and talent transformation, she champions a people-first approach grounded in authenticity, care and entrepreneurial spirit.

    Indy has held senior HR roles across the Group, shaping initiatives that embed inclusive leadership, psychological safety and long-term talent development. She brings a strategic lens to the CPO role, aligning people practices with business growth while elevating HR as a critical partner in driving organisational success.

    Thank you for tuning into this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. 

    If you enjoyed the show, please give is 5 stars! It will help others find the show.Check out our previous episodes and remember to subscribe so you don’t miss our future shows.

    If you have any questions or want to discuss anything, we’d love to hear from you:

    www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (for Gemma)

    www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (for Fi)

    34 min
  • 4.06 Hybrid, remote or in-office - what's better? with Dr Gemma Dale

    Is hybrid working better than being fully remote or fully in-office? Frankly, that's the wrong question.

    This episode explores how decisions about work location are often based on personal opinion rather than data, and why that leads to poor outcomes.

    Dr Gemma Dale shares insights from her academic research, showing how deeply held beliefs about productivity and presence still drive leadership behaviour. Many organisations still lack a clear definition of what good performance actually means. Instead, they default to outdated assumptions, such as equating visibility with effectiveness. We explore why so many hybrid models fall short, often because they were never properly designed to support new ways of working.

    And we talk about experience bias, and how senior leaders often unconsciously shape policy based on what worked for them in the past. We also highlight the need for organisations to stop searching for a single right answer, and instead look at what works in their own context, based on real data.

    This is a call to think more clearly about how work gets done and to build working models that are intentional, flexible and fit for the future.

    Key Points Discussed:

      • The influence of experience bias in leadership decision-making
      • How visibility is often mistaken for performance
      • The missing piece: a clear definition of performance
      • The problem with one-size-fits-all approaches to flexible work
      • The value employees place on autonomy and flexibility
      • Why many hybrid models fail without proper design
      • The role of HR in challenging assumptions with evidence

    Key Takeaway:

    The real question is not where work should happen, but how people can work at their best. Strategic leaders need to focus on performance, purpose and evidence, not outdated habits or loud opinions.

    Some research listeners might find helpful (not all mentioned in the episode)

    https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/uk-workers-increasingly-rejecting-return-to-office-mandates-study-finds

    https://www.publicfirst.co.uk/hybrid-work-commission-report.html

    Some of Dr Gemma Dale's books:

    Flexible Working

    How to Manage Remotely

    Thank you for tuning into this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. 

    If you enjoyed the show, please give is 5 stars! It will help others find the show.Check out our previous episodes and remember to subscribe so you don’t miss our future shows.

    If you have any questions or want to discuss anything, we’d love to hear from you:

    www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (for Gemma)

    www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (for Fi)

    34 min
  • 4.05 What skills will we need in 2030?

    The year 2030 may feel like the distant future, but it's just five years away, and the skills we need by then are already shifting.

    Drawing on the World Economic Forum’s Future of Jobs Report 2025, we explore which capabilities will matter most for individuals, teams, and organisations.

    Unsurprisingly, AI and big data dominate the list, but what stood out to us was how essential human-centred skills, like resilience, flexibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence, are set to surge in importance.

    These so-called “soft skills” are not easy; they’re hard to teach, hard to measure, and hard to master. But they are crucial. We discuss what this means for leaders, HR teams and individuals - whether it’s how we train, how we recruit, or how we think about our own career development.

    We also explore how skills like systems thinking, motivation, and social influence connect to broader strategic leadership, especially in a volatile, uncertain world.

    This episode is a useful evidence-backed prompt to rethink how we value and develop the less tangible, yet deeply impactful, skills that will define success in the decade ahead.

    Key Points Discussed:

    • The most in-demand skills by 2030 from the WEF Future of Jobs Report
    • Why “soft skills” are in fact hard, and increasingly essential
    • The rise of resilience, agility, and self-efficacy as strategic capabilities
    • Why curiosity may be the most underrated leadership trait
    • The need for a T-Shaped approach - breadth, not just depth
    • The concept of a Renaissance mindset and its relevance in the AI era
    • How leaders can support team development in a rapidly changing world
    • The implications for recruitment, L&D and individual career planning

    Key Takeaway:

    AI and tech skills will be crucial, but so will human skills. Strategic leaders must rethink how they prioritise, train, and support so-called “soft skills” such as resilience, curiosity and agility.

    Link to World Economic Forum Report (go to page 41 for the matrix we talk about)

    https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2025/

    Thank you for tuning into this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. 

    If you enjoyed the show, please give is 5 stars! It will help others find the show.Check out our previous episodes and remember to subscribe so you don’t miss our future shows.

    If you have any questions or want to discuss anything, we’d love to hear from you:

    www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (for Gemma)

    www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (for Fi)

    30 min
  • 4.04 How can HR lead the AI revolution? with Naureen Hussain

    AI is already reshaping work, and HR has a perfect opportunity to take the lead.

    In this episode, we speak with Naureen Hussain, a privacy, data governance and responsible AI specialist, to explore how HR can lead the AI revolution. We talk about why HR can and should be a core voice in shaping organisational AI strategy, and how to practically assess the impact of AI across roles, talent development and recruitment.

    Naureen shares how HR’s unique organisational perspective makes it well-placed to act as a leader and a critical friend in AI adoption, identifying not just where efficiencies can be gained, but where governance, fairness and trust must be embedded. From mapping hidden AI in current systems to testing small, focused use cases, we cover the building blocks for a proactive AI approach in HR.

    We also explore why governance isn’t a blocker, but a strategic enabler that helps HR leaders stay ahead of disruption.

    If you’re wondering how to start shaping an AI-enabled future of work, this conversation is packed with insight.

    Key Points Discussed:

    • Why HR must shape, not follow, the organisation's AI strategy

    • How to map AI impact across job roles and reskilling needs

    • Identifying “hidden AI” already in HR systems and tools

    • Practical first steps: start small, go deep, stay focused

    • The role of governance in enabling safe, strategic AI adoption

    • How AI adoption intersects with DEI, trust and transparency

    • Why HR's panoramic view makes it essential to AI leadership

    • The risks of blind trust in tech, and how to avoid them

    Key Takeaway:

    AI is not really a tech issue, it's a people issue. HR leaders must step up, ask better questions, and shape strategic AI adoption with purpose, clarity and care.

    About Naureen Hussain

    With over 20 years of experience at the intersection of data, law, technology and business transformation, Naureen Hussain is a trusted adviser in responsible AI, data governance and privacy. Through her consultancy, Luminate Advisers, she works closely with business leaders to connect strategic goals with safe, inclusive and practical AI adoption. From stress-testing strategies to aligning governance with real-world challenges, she supports clients to lead confidently, not just compliantly, in an AI-driven world.

    She has a deep understanding of the HR world, having supported HR teams as an employment lawyer for many years. She has worked directly with C-suite leaders across sectors, led complex cross-functional teams, driven risk and compliance transformation in challenging environments, and helped global brands like Virgin Media O2 and Huawei accelerate responsibly.

    You'll find the cheat sheet she referred to on her website here.

    And feel free to contact her directly if you want to know more about the research she mentioned.

    Thank you for tuning into this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. 

    If you enjoyed the show, please give is 5 stars! It will help others find the show.Check out our previous episodes and remember to subscribe so you don’t miss our future shows.

    If you have any questions or want to discuss anything, we’d love to hear from you:

    www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (for Gemma)

    www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (for Fi)

    40 min
  • 4.03 Is it time to redefine performance?

    Performance is a word we throw around easily in work and HR conversations, but do we actually agree on what it means?

    In this episode we challenge the assumptions and complexity behind a term we think we all understand. Starting with the uncomfortable truth that most organisations operate without a shared definition. And we explore the consequences of trying to reward or manager performance without this clarity.

    We introduce a four-part model of performance, developed by Gemma though real-life client experience.

    We discuss how performance is dynamic, nuanced and influenced by context, and how conflating its component parts can often lead to flawed pay and promotion decisions.

    Key Points Discussed

    • Why “performance” is often poorly defined in organisations
    • Four key dimensions of performance: effort, behaviours, skills, outcomes
    • Separating performance dimensions to improve reward and promotion clarity
    • Why impact and added value might deserve their own dimensions
    • The link between performance frameworks and fairer, strategic reward systems

    Key Takeaway

    Performance isn't one thing. It's a multi-dimensional, evolving concept. Without a shared definition, we risk managing and rewarding it in ways that are biased, inconsistent or unhelpful. A clearer, more structured view helps leaders to make better strategic decisions.

    Thank you for tuning into this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please give is 5 stars! It will help others find the show.

    Check out our previous episodes and remember to subscribe so you don’t miss our future shows.

    If you have any questions or want to discuss anything, we’d love to hear from you:

    www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (for Gemma)

    www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (for Fi)

    32 min
  • 4.02 Are Performance Ratings Still Fit for Purpose in Today’s Workplace?

    Performance ratings spark strong views – some see them as essential for clarity and motivation, others as outdated, divisive, and unhelpful. In this episode, we go beyond the usual debate to ask whether ratings can still play a constructive role in modern performance management, or whether they need a complete rethink.

    We’re joined by Anna Rasmussen, CEO and Founder of OpenBlend, who brings over a decade of experience helping organisations build people-first performance cultures. Anna suggests ratings alone are not the problem – it’s how they're used. When treated as a once-a-year judgement with no context, they can disempower. But when paired with continuous performance conversations and effective employee–manager 1:1s, they become a valuable tool that not only supports development and accountability, but actually drives performance.

    We explore how to align performance conversations with the employee journey, how to equip managers with the mindset, skillset and toolset to succeed, and why ratings are becoming more popular again – not to measure performance, but to drive it. We also touch on the impact of linking ratings to pay and the need for fairness, trust, and clear expectations throughout the year.

    This episode is essential listening for leaders and HR professionals questioning whether to scrap ratings, or simply use them better.

    Key Points Discussed

    • Why many organisations are returning to performance ratings, but using them differently
    • The risk of ratings being a ‘dumping ground’ for poor performance management
    • How to design better performance conversations from day one of the employee journey
    • The link (or lack of link) between ratings and pay – and what really drives fairness
    • The importance of ongoing dialogue over one-off appraisals
    • Empowering employees by making performance conversations more transparent and timely
    • How manager capability is central to making the system work
    • A practical framework: mindset, skillset and toolset for managers

    Key Takeaway

    It’s not the rating that’s the issue – it’s the absence of regular, meaningful conversations that disempowers employees. Performance design must start on day one and be owned every day, not just at year-end.

    About Anna Rasmussen

    Anna is the CEO and Founder of OpenBlend. With over 17 years of experience in leading and coaching teams, managers, and organisations, she’s passionate about unlocking human potential. Her mission is simple: to upskill and empower managers to lead highly effective, coaching-led 1:1 conversations that drive performance and people development.

    OpenBlend is a performance platform designed to enable meaningful 1:1 conversations between managers and their teams. It boosts performance, supports employee development, and helps organisations build people-first cultures. Working across a wide range of industries and sectors, OpenBlend helps organisations attract, engage, motivate, and retain their talent, and build high-performing teams.

    www.OpenBlend.com

    Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please give us 5 stars! It will help others to find the show. And don't forget to check out previous episodes, and subscribe for more insightful discussions and practical advice on becoming a more naturally strategic leader.

    If you have questions about anything we've been talking about, or need guidance on strategic leadership, we'd love to hear from you.

    Feel free to contact us via www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (Gemma) or www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (Fiona). Your queries could inspire future episodes to help you become a more strategic leader.

    32 min
  • 4.01 How to Tackle Challenges More Strategically

    Strategic thinking isn’t about having the strongest opinion in the room – it’s about knowing how to take a step back and ask better questions. In this episode, we talk about what it really takes to move from personal opinion to a more strategic viewpoint, especially when you're dealing with big, complex topics that people often feel strongly about.

    We explore a simple approach: start by getting some perspective (take the balcony view rather than getting stuck on the dance floor), stay open to other possibilities (two things can be true at once), and always come back to context – what problem are we actually trying to solve?

    We’ve both seen this in action and we talk about tangible examples, such as designing a bonus scheme and everyone comes to the table with strong preferences, on we have tackled these situations and how the approach we suggest can really help. It creates space to listen, explore alternatives, and let go of the idea that there’s one perfect answer.

    You don’t need to have all the answers to be strategic. But you do need to stay curious, ask the right questions, and be willing to think differently.

    This episode sets the tone for the rest of the series, where we’ll explore big hairy questions, and how to navigate these more strategically.

    Key Points Discussed

    • Why strong opinions can hinder strategic clarity
    • The importance of moving from opinion to strategic viewpoint
    • The “balcony vs dance floor” metaphor for gaining perspective
    • How curiosity unlocks better thinking in group discussions
    • The danger of seeking to “win” over others in strategic debate
    • The value of considering context over personal preference
    • Using the “disagree and commit” mindset in leadership
    • The three-part strategic approach: Perspective, Alternatives, Context

    Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please give us 5 stars! It will help others to find the show. And don't forget to check out previous episodes, and subscribe for more insightful discussions and practical advice on becoming a more naturally strategic leader.

    If you have questions about anything we've been talking about, or need guidance on strategic leadership, we'd love to hear from you.

    Feel free to contact us via www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (Gemma) or www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (Fiona). Your queries could inspire future episodes to help you become a more strategic leader.

    26 min
  • 3.10 - How to be More Strategic with Team Gatherings

    Do you ever think about how to make every team gathering intentional, strategic, and worth the investment?

    In this episode the hosts look at how meetings, away days, training sessions, and team coaching each require distinct approaches to be truly effective.

    They reveal why they think team building can be a bit random, and not always address the key needs of a team to be truly effective.

    They talk about the importance of selecting the right approach for each situation and avoiding the common trap of defaulting to training or team building, when other interventions might be more suitable. They encourage leaders to consider their teams' specific needs and invest in the most effective methods for team effectiveness.

    Key Discussion Points

      • Why leaders must be intentional about different types of team gatherings.
      • The role of a chair in ensuring team meetings are structured and productive.
      • The value of an external facilitator for strategy sessions to keep discussions focused.
      • How training differs from other interventions, focusing on skill-building and knowledge sharing.
      • The role of team coaching in improving group dynamics, trust, and effectiveness.
      • Why team building activities alone don’t always improve team performance.
      • How different approaches can overlap and complement each other for maximum impact.

    Key Timestamps

    [03:04] – The importance of being intentional about different types of gatherings.

    [03:37] – The role of a chair in structuring effective team meetings.

    [06:52] – Why strategy away days need a facilitator to keep discussions structured.

    [10:28] – The difference between training and facilitation in leadership development.

    [17:48] – What team coaching is and how it helps team effectiveness.

    [21:19] – The limitations of team building and why it’s not always the answer.

    [25:19] – How these different approaches can overlap.

    Key Takeaway

    Leaders often default to meetings or training when bringing teams together, but different gatherings require different approaches. By understanding the roles of chairs, facilitators, trainers, and team coaches, and deciding which role suits the situation best, leaders can ensure team gatherings will drive real results.

    Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please give us 5 stars! It will help others to find the show. And don't forget to check out previous episodes, and subscribe for more insightful discussions and practical advice on becoming a more naturally strategic leader.

    If you have questions about anything we've been talking about, or need guidance on strategic leadership, we'd love to hear from you.

    Feel free to contact us via www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (Gemma) or www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (Fiona). Your queries could inspire future episodes to help you become a more strategic leader.

    30 min
  • 3.09 - The 7 Characteristics of High Performing Teams

    We explore what makes a high-performing team, the difference between individual and collective performance, and a seven-part model for building effective, cohesive, and successful teams.

    Fiona shares insights from her work in leadership and team coaching, highlighting how individual brilliance does not automatically create a high-performing team. They introduce a seven-part model from Lucy Widdowson that defines the 7 essential elements of effective teamwork, including purpose, identity, relatedness, values and beliefs, awareness, ways of working, and transformation.

    Through analogies such as football teams and leadership dynamics, they explore common team challenges, from ineffective meetings to the impact of ‘banter’ masking deeper issues.

    They offer practical guidance for leaders to assess and enhance their teams, including using the Johari Window for awareness and revisiting team purpose.

    To help listeners apply these concepts, Fiona shares a simple questionnaire for evaluating team effectiveness, which can be used individually or in team discussions. Whether leading a team or participating in one, this episode provides essential insights for optimising team performance.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Why high-performing individuals don’t always create a high-performing team

    • The seven characteristics of high-performing teams (Lucy Widdowson’s model)

    • Why teams need a clear purpose and shared identity

    • How leaders can use feedback and awareness tools like the Johari Window

    Key Timestamps

    03:00 – Why a group of ‘superstars’ doesn’t automatically create a high-performing team

    05:20 – Classic signs of an ineffective team

    07:10 – The problem with banter: masking difficult conversations instead of addressing them

    08:00 – Introducing Lucy Widdowson’s seven characteristics of effective teams

    12:30 – The role of identity in a team and how external perceptions matter

    17:45 – Why defining team values and behaviours is essential for cohesion

    22:30 – Practical ways to improve team meetings and decision-making processes

    28:30 – How leaders can assess their team’s effectiveness and identify areas for improvement

    Key Takeaway

    High-performing teams don’t happen by accident. They require clarity of purpose, strong relationships, shared values, and the ability to adapt. Leaders should prioritise team effectiveness over individual achievements and regularly assess team dynamics using structured models and feedback tools.

    Fiona's Team Effectiveness Questionnaire:

    Using a simple ratings system, where a score of 1 = not at all and a score of 5 = completely, all the time, answer the following questions:

    1. We have a clear instruction and mandate from the wider organisation and those we report to
    2. Achieving our team goals is recognised and rewarded above our individual goals, or those of our individual teams
    3. We have the right selection of necessary, complementary skills within the team
    4. We can clearly articulate and own our overall purpose
    5. We are working towards shared goals in an effective manner
    6. We commit to clear actions and with accountability and follow-through
    7. We have clear and effective ways of working together
    8. We maintain a high level of moral and commitment between us
    9. We are fully engaged and involved in meetings. We make good use of our diversity when we meet
    10. The outcomes we reach in meetings are better than any individual could have reached alone
    11. We leave our meetings feeling more focused, supported and energised
    12. We have good relationships with all our key stakeholders, and any team member can represent views of the whole team
    13. We constantly scan our stakeholder environment, and attend to changing needs and perceptions
    14. We regularly and effectively attend to our own development as a team
    15. We all give good quality real-time feedback and provide a balance of support and challenge to each other

    Questions based on work by Professor Peter Hawkins.

    Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please give us 5 stars! It will help others to find the show. And don't forget to check out previous episodes, and subscribe for more insightful discussions and practical advice on becoming a more naturally strategic leader.

    If you have questions about anything we've been talking about, or need guidance on strategic leadership, we'd love to hear from you.

    Feel free to contact us via www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (Gemma) or www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (Fiona). Your queries could inspire future episodes to help you become a more strategic leader.

    32 min
  • 3.08 From Being in a Team to Leading it

    We discuss the challenges and strategies when you move from team member to team manager,

    Drawing on personal experiences and coaching insights, we have a natter about the unique challenges this shift can pose. What's your new leadership identity? How do you balance team dynamics? How do you ensure you fulfil what the organisation needs of you in this new role?

    Fi shares a candid anecdotes about one of her own career missteps and lessons she learned when she was promoted over a team-mate to assume management of him.

    We look at a few other things that might be getting in the way - imposter syndrome, the need for peer approval, and figuring out new senior leadership responsibilities.

    We suggest 3 helpful lenses for navigating this transition effectively:

    • define your leadership style
    • understand individual and team needs
    • ensure you also meet organisational expectations.

    Key Points Discussed

    • The emotional challenges of transitioning from peer to leader.
    • The importance of crafting a leadership identity and owning your new role.
    • Balancing team needs with the organisation's strategic goals.
    • Recognising and addressing individual dynamics within the team.
    • Strategies to maintain consistency and build credibility as a new leader.
    • Insights on seeking or providing professional support during leadership transitions.
    • Tackling imposter syndrome and trusting the hiring process.

    Key Timestamps

    [02:14] – Introduction to the challenges of managing a former team.

    [03:02] – Fi’s personal experience: transitioning to her first management role.

    [05:06] – The pitfalls of inconsistency and the struggle to establish authority.

    [08:24] – The critical role of identity in leadership transitions.

    [13:25] – The value of coaching and intentional reflection during the first 90 days.

    [16:24] – Three lenses for leadership: style, team needs, and organisational expectations.

    [21:31] – Treating a team as both a group and as individuals.

    [24:38] – Real-life example: the Flexi Time policy dilemma.

    [27:38] – Overcoming self-doubt and trusting organisational decisions.

    [28:23] – Encouragement for aspiring leaders to seize new opportunities.

    Key Takeaway

    Transitioning from team member to team manager requires intentional effort, self-awareness, and a clear understanding of organisational expectations. Success lies in embracing your leadership role, addressing team dynamics thoughtfully, and trusting your ability to rise to new challenges.

    Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Strategic Leader podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please give us 5 stars! It will help others to find the show. And don't forget to check out previous episodes, and subscribe for more insightful discussions and practical advice on becoming a more naturally strategic leader.

    If you have questions about anything we've been talking about, or need guidance on strategic leadership, we'd love to hear from you.

    Feel free to contact us via www.gemmabullivant.co.uk (Gemma) or www.wearegoodthinking.co.uk (Fiona). Your queries could inspire future episodes to help you become a more strategic leader.

    31 min

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