The Swing

This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Chris talking about various politics both local and international, including news on Scott Morrison's quarantine and Barnaby Joyce acting as deputy PM.

The duo also speak to Curtin University's [Dr Elizabeth Jackson](https://research.curtin.edu.au/supervisor/dr-elizabeth-jackson/) to talk about a new trade deal struck between Australia and the UK, and with independent journalist [Callum Foote](https://www.michaelwest.com.au/author/callum/) about the constant confusion regarding Australia's vaccine rollout.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 22nd June 2021.

This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Chris talking about politics and the coronavirus situation both local and abroad, including a discussion with United States Study Centre Associate Professor [Brendon O'Connor](https://www.ussc.edu.au/experts/brendon-oconnor) on the US's vaccination efforts and the continued post-mortem of Donald Trump's time as President.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 15th June 2021.

This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Jeff talking about the ongoing coronavirus complications in Victoria, leading to border closures in South Australia and a potential border closure in WA to follow.

Danae also interviews historian [Babette Smith](http://babettesmith.com/), talking to her about the female population of the first wave of Australian convicts and their tales of rebellion.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 25th May 2021.

In 2009 a Russian accountant, Sergei Magnitsky, exposed state corruption and was imprisoned. He was starved, tortured and beaten to deal in squalor. Following this horrific event the USA imposed ‘Magnitsky Laws’ – sanctions removing Visas and cutting business ties with the men involved.

Geoffrey Robertson QC – colleague of Amal Clooney, defender of Julian Assange – details the torture and murder of whistle-blower Magnitsky in Russian prison in his new book [Bad People - and How to be Rid of Them. A Plan B for Human Rights](https://www.penguin.com.au/books/bad-people-and-how-to-be-rid-of-them-9781761042423).

Geoffrey Robertson spoke to The Swing as the book hit the shelves and ahead of his visit to Perth for an event on [1 June 2021](https://perthconcerthall.com.au/events/event/geoffrey-robertson-qc).

Scott Ludlam draws on his experience as a senator and activist to capture our world on a precipice and explore the possibilities for our future in [Full Circle:](https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/full-circle)A search for the world that comes next.

Bringing together a wealth of new ideas, Full Circle outlines a new ecological politics. Ludlam chatted with Danae Gibson for The Swing. This episode first aired on Tuesday 11 May 2021.

This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Chris talking to [Professor Jaya AR Dantas](https://staffportal.curtin.edu.au/staff/profile/view/jaya-a-r-dantas-b525bfae/) from Curtin University’s School of Population Health about the worsening Covid crisis in India as they surpass 20 million positive cases and the Morrison government bans Australian citizens returning home until May 15th.

The duo also discuss President Biden's 100 days in office, the vaccine rollout and the untimely passing of long time RTRFM contributor Dr Ian Cook.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 4th May 2021.

This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Chris talking to researcher and business ethics lecturer, [Dr Melissa Wheeler](https://www.swinburne.edu.au/research/our-research/access-our-research/find-a-researcher-or-supervisor/researcher-profile/?id=mwheeler) about the [Australian Leadership Index](http://link.mediaoutreach.meltwater.com/ls/click?upn=4Kj4upEWAE1qMOUo-2F7rY3oXY6VN7-2FvuM66-2BQvexxmZHFMdTdQXKHaJyA2r3-2BQERBqGvq4A6vqjbB4vh-2FWLWeRw-3D-3DxJyq_nffYiv-2BxgJz1G2epr3XppO0NaYul3v5IUY7vcYjOaXWgRS2-2FY6kHFEgIVvdymDZQV6W-2Fvwj6tLrkyBMHF-2BMYuCcGZ6eg342taluURs3fmpieKdAQgfQoW9BUqz-2FrMgwEWfRbHwmM-2BRYT-2BuPQmTeuaGFI4hxFpUT9yzRW01CxhRswJnuNLRhH1zgwgJWIg8kdKhFqre6-2BALcNTd7VGzzVoGyAAaL1LZarKaYmYy4chg4epG0EsbryasX-2BgdNe7Yxs-2BMI-2BVxgkR05Qybw-2BX9LGi3z731-2BfvRDUFG6aTLPqBHejug7C4xM6ypTkFt7n1q9ZHzQo-2B7dhDGDiHfTgK0JOj3CBVukGXZKXixz1RuiB9PB0YeFrhq-2FR8dfYnylWiQTpI1iRCYdX6ctVZf0yOZOXyw-3D-3D) and how it reflects a growing distrust of government figures in Australia, especially among women, in light of the allegations of longstanding sexual assault leveled at members of parliament and the Prime Minister's response.

The duo also talk about the death of Prince Philip and the outlook of the UK's political situation, as well as the fluctuating situation regarding local COVID-19 vaccinations.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 20 April 2021.

This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Chris talking to UWA Senior Lecturer [Dr Sam Han](https://www.uwa.edu.au/profile/sam-han) about the early months of Joe Biden's presidency, as well as the state of the pandemic in the United States.

The two also talk about the pandemic's progress in other areas such as Brazil, as well as some of the fallout from the election results and the curious case of the Daylight Savings party seizing a seat under dubious circumstances.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 6 April 2021.

This episode of The Swing sees Chris and Danae talking about the rough one year anniversary since WA's lockdown due to the coronavirus pandemic, and talk about Australia's standing on fighting back against COVID-19 and how it has fared compared to the rest of the world, with a discussion with [Curtin University Epidemiology Professor Archie Clements](https://research.curtin.edu.au/supervisor/prof-archie-clements/) about where the pandemic may be going from here.

The two also touch on the allegations of sexual abuse within the walls of parliament, and the band-aid solutions proposed by Scott Morrison.

Curtin University Associate Professor [Dr Htwe Htwe Thein](https://research.curtin.edu.au/supervisor/dr-htwe-htwe-thein/) also returns to speak more on the situation in Myanmar, with one of the deadliest days in the country since the coup began.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 30 March 2021.

With the footy kicking off we are seeing allocation of crowds as large as 75,000 at places like the MCG. However, music venues, both small and large, are still under strict capacity regulations.

In cities without community transmission we are still seeing venues and festivals struggle to hold events with sustainable numbers and the ending of JobKeeper is putting extra pressure on our music arts sector.

Though neither side is against the other, it is hard not to compare the difference in these regulations.

Executive General Manager of the Australian Live Music Council, Craig Spann, rang in for a chat with Chris and Danae on The Swing to discuss where the distinction between these events lies and what this means for our music industry.