It’s another tough week for Rishi Sunak as a new poll suggests the Tories are set for 1997-style obliteration. But, are the results all they seem? And are certain Tory factions turning further against him? Then, inspired by Ian Hislop Vs Jake Berry on Peston last week – the panel discusses how you win a meaningful argument in the world of politics. Is it even possible?

• ”We always talk about the red wall going down, but this poll shows it's being rebuilt?” – Matt Green

• “Voters care if he does something, and in the end it doesn’t feel like the Rwanda plan is actually going to happen.” – Matt Green

• “TV and radio debates do not matter at all… the media’s role should be to inform people” – Marie Le Conte.

• “Politics is never something that is resolved one day, so setting down where we went right or wrong is good because someone is going to pick up the torch.” – Seth Thevoz

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Presented by Alex Andreou with Matt Green, Seth Thevoz and Marie Le Conte. Producer: Alex Rees & Chris Jones. Audio production by: Alex Rees. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.

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