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Don't Ghost Your Feelings!

We met with a group of school counselors recently, and the words on the T-shirts caught our attention: "Don't Ghost Your Feelings. Instead, Share Them with Others." October is National Depression Awareness Month, and with Halloween taking place in October, they had found a fun way to communicate an important message to their students.

The word "ghosting" became popular a decade ago and even entered the Webster dictionary in 2017. It originated as a term in the online dating world to describe a person who suddenly ends all communication with someone with whom they had been talking. They no longer respond to texts, emails, or calls, having given no explanation for their becoming like "ghosts" and completely disappearing. People willing to talk about why they ghosted someone have usually stated that they were too uncomfortable communicating openly and honestly with others, so they found it easier to ignore the topic or the person completely.

The term ghosting has been expanded to include completely ignoring or avoiding an uncomfortable topic. So, for example, we sometimes hear comments like, "Whenever I say I want to talk about our finances, you ghost me." This means the person who doesn't want to talk about finances isn't being argumentative —they are just disappearing, pretending like they didn't even hear the other person.

Returning to the school counselors' T-shirts, ghosting one's feelings means acting like they don't exist. Instead of ghosting, the school counselors regularly teach how to become comfortable with the full range of emotions so that students can become more skilled at both feeling and expressing what they are feeling. They are encouraging them to do so even when doing so makes them feel quite vulnerable.

The wise wisdom offered by the school counselors is good advice for all of us. Halloween may be over, but the wisdom of not ghosting our feelings remains relevant all year.

Trick or treat? Ghosting our emotions can be a trick we play on ourselves and others. Becoming more comfortable expressing our feelings, on the other hand, is a treat we can give ourselves and our relationships.

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The Power of Humor Is In How We Use It

Last week, we had the honor of presenting our Wellness Compass resources at the annual Wisconsin Mental Health and Recovery Conference. A thousand providers from around the Midwest were in attendance, and it was truly an inspiring experience to meet so many people on the front lines every day helping to relieve suffering and, in so doing, making the world a better place.

One of the keynote speakers for the conference was Tom Farley. Tom is the older brother of Chris Farley, the famous comedian who died tragically of a drug overdose in 1997 at the age of 33.

Tom shared with us that, like his brother Chris, he has also struggled with drug and alcohol addiction. Now in recovery, for many years, Tom is now a motivational speaker who tells his story at conferences and high schools around the country of getting in touch with his emotions as part of his recovery.

Tom, following the tradition of his family, is quite funny. He said he learned how to be witty from his earliest days of growing up in his family. He explained that their family had one tool in its emotional toolbox and that was the tool of humor. No matter the issue of the day for their family, be it a disappointment in someone's sporting endeavor, an argument with a friend, or a struggle in academics, they always found a way to joke about it. He went on to say that as he started his journey in recovery, he had to learn something he did not know from his childhood, and that was how to identify and express all of his emotions.

His ongoing growth has been to integrate his humor with his capacity to be serious and real. Unlike his childhood, when humor was used to mask and hide more complicated emotions, he is now comfortable with the full range of emotions, from the very serious to the very funny.

His talk resonated with what we also teach regarding our emotional and relational wellbeing. The capacity to feel and express the full range of emotions is foundational for emotional and relational health. Humor, when used creatively and with loving intention, helps us all. But when used to mask our feelings, or when our intent is to be hurtful or cutting of ourselves or another, humor can create a divide between us and others we care about, and diminish everyone's wellbeing.

We invite you to reflect on how you use humor in your life and your relationships. Perhaps you might become aware that you would like more of the positive experience of humor. Maybe you might become aware of how you sometimes use humor that is not so helpful in your relationships.

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Are You Seeking Comfort or Solutions?

This week, we have a simple yet very effective tip regarding communication in our relationships.

When a person is talking to you about something that is upsetting them, discern within yourself whether they are seeking comfort or solutions. Typically, the more emotionally upset they are, the more they are seeking and needing comfort. If you are not sure, the best thing to do is ask. While this sounds simple, it is often difficult to remember to put into practice.

When we offer advice or try to fix a problem that another person is having, and that is not what they are seeking, such advice will almost always result in further hurt and anger, as they are probably emotionally flooded. The "helper" often tries to recover by saying, "I was just trying to help," and may now feel hurt and angry as well. If their intention to help had been guided by the question, "Are they seeking comfort or solutions?" they likely would have fared better.

In general, we will never regret offering comforting responses, such as, "I'm so sorry this is happening," "I see why you are so upset," "I've got your back," or "I am here for you any time you need to talk." If we start with offering comfort, and then the person wants advice at some point, they will more likely feel safe asking for it. If, on the other hand, we begin by providing solutions, we may not ever get the chance to truly offer comfort as the person may now be even more upset.

The "fix-it" response may seem wise as we may think we know exactly what the person needs to do-- and after all, isn't that the best thing we can offer? No, it's not—not if the person isn't wanting advice.

We can also apply this wisdom of asking for comfort rather than solutions to guide our talking with others when we are upset. Rather than merely hoping and assuming that the other person knows what we need, it's good practice actually to let them know. "I have something I need to talk about right now, and just to be clear, I am not looking for advice or solutions. I simply need someone to listen to my feelings and frustration right now," might be a good way to start.

Making it Personal: As you go through your weeks, watch for opportunities to practice deciding if you or another needs comfort or solutions in times of stress, and let us know how it goes.

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Listening to Understand Rather Than to Respond

Last week, we shared some advice on how to begin unraveling and hopefully resolving conflict in a relationship. This week, we would like to add one more tip. And while this tip is simple to understand, it can be challenging to practice.

One of the most important gifts we can offer in any relationship is the gift of deep and authentic listening. This is best described as listening to understand, rather than to respond.

Our good listening skills are easy to practice when a relationship is going well. However, listening often deteriorates in a relationship when there is unresolved conflict. So, the first step we can take to begin to heal the conflict is to listen and sincerely attempt to understand what the other person is thinking and feeling.

As therapists, we have seen the effectiveness of this approach in conflict resolution. When we work with people in conflict, helping them to de-escalate enough to actually be able to listen to what the other is experiencing is always the first step we take. We remind people that listening is not agreement, but is instead an attempt to understand what it is truly like to stand in the other person's shoes.

This is not easy, and we usually find that the first attempts at this kind of listening are often interrupted by a need to respond and "correct" the other person. As we mentioned above, the concept of listening to understand rather than respond is simple to understand, but is much more challenging to practice.

Most of us think of ourselves as good listeners. And hopefully, that is true much of the time. Most of us struggle to maintain good listening skills, however, when we strongly disagree with another person. With practice and commitment, we can increase our ability to listen to truly understand, thus strengthening our relationships.

Making It Personal: Is there a specific relationship with which you would like to practice "listening to understand, rather than to respond" this week?

What follows is the weekly column that is a companion to this weekly podcast. The topics are the same, but sometimes the contenct varies.

Choose Being Kind Over Being Right

We are grateful for the many relationship questions our column readers and podcast listeners have sent us recently. A common theme to the challenges people are sharing is that the persons with whom they are in conflict refuse to change and almost always refuse to listen. This is how it seems from their perspective. Most attempts at communication quickly escalate to the point where both people feel wronged and are hurting. And sometimes, that impasse becomes so frustrating that all communication has ended.

While every relationship is unique, here are three guidelines we have found helpful in de-escalating conflict. This will be a two-part column and podcast and so we will have additional ideas to share next week.

1. Let go of the need to be right. No matter how sure you are that you are correct (and therefore, the other person is wrong), continuing to argue in this way will only escalate the conflict and build up thicker walls between you. Even if you are not saying it directly, an attitude of self-righteousness will prevent progress from being possible. As the words above say, "When choosing between being right or being kind, choose being kind, and you will always be right."

2. Refrain from making the other person the problem. Refrain from prosecuting your case as to how or why the other person is the problem and, therefore, needs to change. It's likely that neither person is solely the problem. In fact, neither person may be the problem, but finances, stress, or a misunderstanding, for instance, are the real problems. This is similar to the first point. Trying to win a debate may be helpful in politics, but not our relationships.

3. Because we each participate in co-creating relationship patterns, we want to ensure we take responsibility for our part of the conflict.

"I feel like I have just stopped listening to you about this issue and instead want to focus on everything I think you are doing wrong. I can feel how defensive and argumentative I have become.

I'm sorry and want to change that."

When we admit this kind of truth about ourselves and say it to the other, it can help begin a time of healing. And we must say it without expecting the other to say something similar in response. Just as when one person hardens, the other person will also tend to stiffen. So, too, when one person begins to soften, that tends to make room for the other person to soften.

Remember that it takes time, sometimes years, for relationships to become stuck, so any real change will also take time. Be patient with yourself and with the process.

Making It Personal: Choose one of the three guidelines above and consider how you might practice it in a relationship this week.

Thanks again for sharing your relationship questions with us. Your engagement is what makes our column and podcast meaningful. We appreciate your care and commitment to the relationships in your lives, and we're grateful to be on this journey with you.

Next week, we will share additional guidelines in part 2 of this column/podcast. We invite you to share any guidelines you have found to be effective by emailing us at [email protected]

What follows is the companion weekly column to this podcast, that explores this same topic.

That's a Great Question!

As teachers worldwide establish classroom norms this time of year, it is common to remind students , "There are no bad or wrong questions." The intention of this is to normalize and encourage the asking of questions because, as teachers often add, "If one student has a particular question, there is a good chance that another student is wondering about the same thing."

When it comes to relationships, we also say that there are no bad or wrong questions. We do, however, believe that there are some kinds of questions that rise to the level of being great questions, ones that can enhance the vitality of any relationship.

So….what constitutes a great question? Here are a few of our thoughts—and as always, we'd love to hear yours.

A great question …

*…is open-ended.

A closed question can be answered with "yes" or "no." "Did you have a good day?" is an example of a closed question. An open-ended question, however, like "What were a few high and low points of your day today?" opens up space for a more expansive answer and greater connection.

*…explores new territory, allowing individuals to get to know each other better.

"How did your family celebrate birthdays when you were growing up?"

"If you could meet any historical figure and have dinner with them, who would it be and why?"

"What's one thing you haven't tried yet in your life that you still want to attempt?"

These types of questions open up new ways of knowing each other and help find commonalities.

*…is comfortable asking about feelings.

"The news from the doctor wasn't what you were hoping for. Can you share what you're feeling right now? I'd like to know."

"You said you were worried about this upcoming event. Can you tell me more about some of your fears?"

To genuinely care enough to ask about, and then listen to, another's feelings is one of the greatest gifts we can give one another.

*…is comfortable with silence.

Sometimes, when asking a great question, especially one that invites a deeper response, there will be silence after the question. This is actually a sign that a great question has been asked and we need to resist the urge to fill the silence with a different question or a change of topic. Being patient while waiting for an answer is a great way to show respect to another.

*…is neutral and free of bias.

"You're not going to do that again, are you?" is clearly not neutral.

Much better is, "You said you want to do "such and such" again. Can you help me better understand what is important to you about doing that?"

*…is asked with one's full, undivided attention.

The best question, if asked while we are scrolling on our phone, is meaningless, as our actions speak louder than our words.

Great questions, asked with undivided attention and a commitment to truly listen to the response, are the lifeblood of all relationships.

As with all the teachers setting up the rules in their classrooms right now, let's make great questions the norm in our lives and our relationships as well.

Making It Personal:

What would you add to this list of what makes for a great question? Which of the bullet points above speak most to you? With whom might you try out some great questions this week, asking them with undivided attention and a commitment to listening patiently?

What follows is the weekly column we email every Friday that is a companion to this weekly podcast. This podcast episode expands on the content of the column.

Loving Speech

We continue to be deeply grateful for the responses from our column readers and podcast listeners. One common wondering, that we have noticed arising in many of the concerns that have been shared, is how to navigate conflict.

While every situation is unique, one timeless principle that applies to both repairing and strengthening relationships, be they in conflict or not, is the practice of loving speech.

The quote from Rumi in the accompanying photo beautifully captures what loving speech looks like, known as the three gates of loving speech: It is true. It is necessary. It is kind.

These three attributes invite us to reflect not just on the words and tone we use, but also on the true intention behind our speech. This self awareness is crucial, especially when we are in conflict with someone. Are we speaking to "win" an argument, or is it to create a space where differences or concerns can be calmly explored, allowing possible compromises or solutions to emerge? Is our intention to "one up" the other, or is it to approach the other with humility, acknowledging our own part in the conflict? Both our words and our intentions will make all the difference in how the conversation unfolds.

Rumi's advice to consider these attributes before we speak (Is it true? kind? necessary?) is invaluable, though admittedly can be challenging in the heat of the moment. We have found it equally helpful to reflect on these "gates" of loving speech even after a conversation has taken place. The morning after a difficult discussion, for instance, we may realize our words were not as kind, necessary, true, or even helpful as we wish they had been. We may regret our part in the interaction. If so, considering whether we did indeed use loving speech or not gives us the opportunity to reach out and apologize if we fell short, repairing any hurt we may have caused.

These ideals of loving speech are just that—ideals to strive for. Remember, strengthening or rebuilding relationships is always about progress, not perfection.

Making it Personal: As you go about your week, we encourage you to experiment with these principles of loving speech, and observe whether they make a difference in your interactions. Practice asking yourself both before and after a conversation if what you are about to say or have said is kind, true, and necessary. Is it loving speech? If not, take some time to think about how you could rephrase your words so they can fit through the three gates of loving speech. You will not regret it, we are sure. And we'd love to hear how it goes.

Thanks for reading, and remember, there's a companion podcast to this column. Check below for details. And please feel free to share this column with others who might find it helpful.

What follows is the weekly column we email every Friday that is a companion to this weekly podcast. This podcast episode expands on the content of the column.

As we announced last week in our first column for this "season" (September 2024-May 2025), our focus for this season will be relationships. Based on the number of responses we got from our column readers and podcast listeners, we know we are not alone in both having joys in our relationships that we celebrate as well as challenges that we sometimes face. Thank you to everyone who shared your joys, concerns, and time-tested advice for building and maintaining strong emotional connections. We are still reading through the responses and look forward to sharing some of them (anonymously, of course) in future columns and addressing the many questions you have raised.

Our lesson for this week is simple in concept and yet sometimes challenging to remember: What we pay attention to in our relationships is what will grow.

Getting stuck in a loop of complaints and what's "wrong" in any relationship is not uncommon. This focus can quickly become a bad habit loop, especially when both people are engaged in the cycle. The more attention we give to the negative aspects of another or a relationship, the more significant those aspects seem to become, creating a cycle where conflict can grow and eventually overshadow what is good.

However, when we shift our focus to the positive—such as qualities we love or value in the other person—something powerful happens. As people begin to reflect on what they appreciate or love about the other person the tension often eases. What we focus on grows. If we choose to focus on appreciation, kindness, and love, those aspects can begin to flourish again in the relationship. This focus in and of itself may not resolve the conflicts that sparked the negative cycle, but it does provide us the perspective and the space we need to address the inevitable conflicts or differences in opinion that come up in all relationships.

Several years ago, we were asked to consult with a group of nonprofit leaders who were stuck in a cycle of conflict and criticism. A few important issues were at the center of their negative cycle. In our first two meetings with them, we chose not to address directly the conflicts they were experiencing, but instead, we spent intentional time having them tell us what they loved most and were most proud of in their work with this organization. Most of them had been there a long time and so they had many beautiful stories to share. As these stories were shared we could feel the tension in the room begin to subside. And once the tension was reduced and they were able to remember the bigger context of their important mission, they were able to work more creatively in resolving the genuine conflicts they were still facing.

A good piece of advice often given to parents is to, "Catch your children doing something good." This advice is especially helpful if the parent has been focusing on their child's negative behavior and losing sight of the good that is inevitably also occurring. This great advice actually works well in all relationships, so it is wise for all of us to remember it.

Let's remember to catch each other doing something good and freely express our appreciation. Doing so will strengthen our relationships and give us calmer, more creative spaces to address any conflicts we might have.

Making It Personal: As always, we invite you to apply anything that has been helpful here to your own life. What matters most is not what we write or say but whether any of this helps you to be more aware and intentional in your life and relationships.

What's one takeaway from this column you might put into practice this week? What specifically could you do?

We always enjoy hearing from you, so if you are so inclined, let us know how this connects for you.

What follows is the weekly column we email every Friday that is a companion to this weekly podcast. This podcast episode expands on the content of the column.

As the new school year begins, so does a new season for our Weekly Wellness Compass column and podcast. After a summer break, we're excited to embark on another year of exploration and growth with you. For those unfamiliar with our work, we are the co-founders of the nonprofit Wellness Compass Initiative. For the past sixteen years, we've supported people worldwide on their journey toward wellness and wholeness.

This time of year often inspires a renewed commitment to growth and learning. In that spirit, we've decided to focus this "school year" on relationships—one of the eight areas of wellness in our Wellness Compass Model for Wellbeing. As marriage and family therapists, we've seen how the quality of our relationships profoundly impacts our overall wellbeing, and that's why this year, relationships will be the central theme of our column and podcast.

How we interact with others significantly shapes our lives, whether in marriage, friendship, a family bond, or a workplace relationship. We've learned that being in relationships is a continuous learning process offered to us over the years—both in our personal journeys (we just celebrated 47 years of marriage) and in our professional practices.

We often hear people say, "If only the other person would change, things would be better." It's easy to view our relationships from a distance, pointing out what's wrong with the other person. But the truth is, we are co-creators in every relationship. The way we show up—our energy, words, and actions—significantly shapes these connections.

In our work, we've met many people who feel stuck and frustrated by a partner, child, colleague, or friend. They come to us hoping to change the other person, but we emphasize the power they have within themselves to influence the relationship. This isn't about control; it's about recognizing the impact we can have through our own behavior.

We like to think of this journey as being in a lifelong school of relationships. Just as students return to school to learn and grow, we, too, are continuously learning and growing, as we are all in a multitude of relationships. Relationships are never static. As we change and the people we are in relationships with change, there is always more to learn and practice.

This year, we invite you to become more intentional about your relationships. Whether it's a long-term relationship with established patterns or a new one full of possibilities, you have the power to influence its direction. Even longstanding relationships can change and grow when we approach them with awareness and intention.

Relationships don't just happen to us; we co-create them every day. Let's commit to being lifelong learners in this school of human connection, continuously evolving and enhancing the quality of our relationships—and in turn, our lives.

The bell is about to ring, so we will wrap up this week's class. We'll be back next week as we continue learning how to strengthen our relationships together.

Optional Homework: If you had one piece of advice to offer on the key to strong relationships, what would it be? Is there a relationship that is inviting you to learn something new right now?

We also invite you to send us any relationship questions you have so we can know the kinds of concerns that are on our readers' minds. If we address your question in a future column or podcast, we will, of course, keep your identity anonymous.

What follows is the weekly column we email every Friday that is a companion to this weekly podcast. This podcast episode expands on the content of the column.

Learning to Listen, Listening to Learn

We are traveling to Dharamsala, India, next week for a two-week conference on Eastern (Tibetan Buddhist) and Western perspectives on resilience, trauma, and mental health. We are honored to have been invited to present our work, the Wellness Compass Initiative, yet we are most looking forward to listening to our hosts and learning about their unique cultural and religious wisdom and perspectives on enhancing resilience.

As we prepare to go to Dharamsala, we know that we will benefit much more from listening to others than from speaking. This is almost always the case, and so today's column focuses on the importance of listening. It also concludes our six-part series on some of the core practices for enhancing our wellbeing.

Deep listening is powerful as it opens new doors of learning by helping us to understand our own needs, better empathize with others, and foster more meaningful connections. Thus it's a practice that enhances our wellbeing in all aspects of life.

When we listen deeply to ourselves, we learn what we long for and, in turn, what part of our wellbeing might need attention. When we listen deeply to others, we enhance our relationships with them. When we are open to listening to those who are different from us, we build bridges of connection and understanding. Our spiritual wellbeing can also be nurtured and strengthened when we listen to what is sacred for us.

The more we learn to listen, the more we will learn from our listening.

This column concludes our season of weekly columns and podcasts as we will be taking a break for the summer. The column and podcast will return the first week of September.

Whether you've recently joined our community or have been with us since the inception of this column in 2008, we sincerely appreciate your engagement. Your responses have been invaluable in shaping our content. Thank you for 'listening.'

We wish you all a wonderful summer. May it be a time full of wonder, deep listening, and learning.