Abby and Kellee say goodbye to season two this episode. As they reflect on their own process, they move into exploring process over content within the therapy space. Why would we want to focus more on process over content? What cues let you know you or the client are avoiding processing? How do we move clients into processing when they are heavily guarded? 

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The Keep Going Song- The Bengons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs-ju_L9pEQ
Epigenetics: Hope and Attachment: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com/store/
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com
IG: Teletherapist.network: https://teletherapistnetwork.com
Rainer Maria Rilke's Letters to a Young Poet:
https://www.amazon.com/Letters-Young-Rainer-Maria-Rilke/dp/0393310396

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Abby and Kellee are beginning to wrap up season two and find themselves recording in a rather silly mood. If you are looking for lightness, laughter, and vulnerability join Abby and Kellee as they explore what their careers would be if they weren’t therapists. Of course, they tie in how this relates to our own security and connectedness to our therapist identity. 

Topics Touched on:
Rick Hanson- Buddha's Brain: The Practical Neuroscience of Happiness, Love, and Wisdom: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/buddhas-brain-the-practical-neuroscience-of-happiness-love-and-wisdom_daniel-j-siegel_rick-hanson/

Frank Wilczek: https://physics.mit.edu/faculty/frank-wilczek/

Dr. Dan Siegel- https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance

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Get ready to ground into this episode as Kellee and Abby explore dissociation. They talk about dissociations being on a continuum, a natural, and normal part of all our lives. They also discuss the brilliance in the body dissociating after trauma and encourage therapist to lean it not run away. Abby and Kellee end the episode offering basic strategies therapists can use to support clients with dissociation in and outside of session. 

Topics Touched on:
Janina Fisher: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/healing-the-fragmented-selves-of-trauma-survivors-overcoming-internal-self-alienation_janina-fisher/13534321/?resultid=a934f9b1-41d6-4aab-9c3d-a871b62be645#edition=13201579&idiq=26946741

Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com

Dr. Dan Siegel- https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance

EMDR Tool Box: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/emdr-toolbox-theory-and-treatment-of-complex-ptsd-and-dissociation_james-knipe/13872979/?resultid=6c3a512d-cefe-4b6d-ae7c-b76da9005609#edition=20900482&idiq=29968511

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Abby and Kellee talk about curiosity in the therapy room from an IPNB perspective. They explore how compassionate and respectful curiosity looks and feels different in the therapy space versus curiosity where we have an agenda; a path we are wanting to follow. Abby and Kellee go on to discuss how we must know we don’t know something to truly be curious with our clients in the therapy space. 

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Yalom: https://www.yalom.com

Hold Me Tight: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2153780.Hold_Me_Tight

Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com

Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com

Dr. Dan Siegle- https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance

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Have you ever found yourself in a season reaching too far, too fast, too soon regarding a clinical skill or training? Have you worked in a setting where there wasn’t space for a learning curve, or tolerable doses of new clinical skills?  Using a plant analogy Abby and Kellee explore the impact of reaching too far, too fast, too soon with trainings, with clients, and with supervisees

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Abby and Kellee explore differentiation. How do we begin to enter our client’s pain without making it our own? They spend time talking about how growth happens at the edge (the space between). They share times they have made a client’s pain their own and discuss strategies to maintain differentiation. 

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If Women Rose Rooted- Sharon Blackie: https://www.amazon.com/If-Women-Rose-Rooted-Celtic-ebook/dp/B01AKBFTMW

Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com

Cole Arthur Riley: https://www.instagram.com/blackliturgies/?hl=en

Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com

Dr. Dan Siegle- https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance

Elephant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWhyGI7q8Xk

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Have you found yourself feeling rejected by a client, or attempting to rattle off multiple solutions for them? Abby and Kellee explore how clients who cannot accept care and trust in the therapy space may be showing you a wise part of themselves, a younger part that developed block trust out of childhood maltreatment. They discuss what this can look like with adults and child clients, what it might feel like for the therapist, and how easily the therapist can recreate attachment ruptures from early on by falling into blocked care. 

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The Neurobiology of Attachment-Focused Therapy- Jonathan Baylin and Daniel A. Hughes: https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393711042

 Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy: https://ddpnetwork.org/about-ddp/dyadic-developmental-psychotherapy/

Louis Cozolino: https://mindgains.org/resources/advisory-board/louis-cozolino-ph-d/

Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/dialectical-behavior-therapy

Dr. Dan Siegle- https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance

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Are you listening to your body? Do you know when you need rest? What narratives are you holding about who you are or your worth when you rest? Abby and Kellee explore the lack of internalization that many of us have around rest. 

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We only exist and have a beginning because of cooperation. Abby and Kellee reflect on the readings, podcasts, and trainings they have done over the last year and how they all discuss survival being dependent on cooperation. They stress the importance of creating community in our field, and how we each must surround ourselves with support as we support others.

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Suzanne Simard: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/602589/finding-the-mother-tree-by-suzanne-simard/
Dan Siegel: https://www.mindsightinstitute.com
Trauma Stewardship: https://traumastewardship.com/about-the-authors/

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How do we maintain connection even in the midst of being fired? Abby and Kellee spend time talking about how important it is to become even more relational when we therapists are in the midst of being fired. They explore the many ways therapists can spiral into negative self-talk and shame when they are fired by a client. Self-reflection is brought in, and they talk about our therapist part, our human part, and how we honor both

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Cloe Madanes- https://cloemadanes.com
Lisa Dion- https://lisa-dion.com

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