“My client said they wanted to do deep trauma work, and then they never returned.” Does this sound like an experience you’ve had? Abby and Kellee discuss modalities and interventions like: EMDR, parts work, expressive therapies, etc. and how to use these to titrate work with clients who want to process trauma. Even when clients push for fast and intense work Abby and Kellee discuss therapists’ responsibility to assess what part(s) of the client is asking this (protector part?), and what part(s) truly need the titration to heal. They explore the benefits of titrating for both the therapist and the client.

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The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino:https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954
Ana Gomez: https://www.anagomez.org
Marshall Lyles: https://www.marshalllyles.com
Debra Wesselmann & Dr. Ann Potter P-A-C EMDR Model 

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Abby and Kellee have the pleasure of interviewing Bridgette Black, licensed esthetician, and celebrity/professional makeup artist. Listeners will feel the authenticity and warmth come through their speakers in this episode with Bridgette as she explores many of the layers that come with being an entrepreneur. While Bridgette does not identify as a healer or therapist it is clear in this episode, she encompasses so many of the identities Abby and Kellee ask listeners to consider bringing into the therapy space to support clients’ healing. 

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Bridgette Black- https://www.bridgetteblack.com

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Are you an in-home therapist, school-based therapist, a therapist in a correctional facility, or a therapist with your own office space? Abby and Kellee attempt to explore all the spaces a therapist practices in, and then discuss how the energy you bring into this space impacts clients. They discuss things from coffee mugs to couches that are brought into our work with clients, and how these objects may offer us delight in whatever space we are in, and this in turns provides delight to our clients. 

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Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com

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What percentage do you think you are talking in sessions with clients? Abby and Kellee explore how important and needed silence is for our clients. Abby and Kellee touch on the difference between being silent and present versus being silent and disconnected. They also give tips to help therapists practice using silence in sessions as well as phrases to use with clients so clients don’t feel dropped. 

Topics Touched on:
Rumi- https://www.britannica.com/biography/Rumi
Erica Bonham- https://avoscounseling.com/about-menu/about/
EMDR Tool Box- https://www.springerpub.com/emdr-toolbox-9780826172556.html
Michael Hamm: https://www.integrativebodyworkeducation.com
Deb Dana: https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/deb-dana/
Louis Cozolino- https://mindgains.org/resources/advisory-board/louis-cozolino-ph-d/
Lisa Dion- https://lisa-dion.com

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Abby and Kellee touch on reflective functioning and why this is so important for us to assess and support our clients around, but also why it is imperative for us as therapists to have the capacity to do so as well. They share two reflective functioning interventions during the episode, and how and why to utilize it with clients. Abby and Kellee discuss therapists not being able to increase clients’ mentalization if they do not possess this ability themselves and call for therapists to do their own deep work. 

 Peter Fonagy- https://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychoanalysis/research/reflective-functioning-questionnaire-rfq
Louis Cozolino- https://mindgains.org/resources/advisory-board/louis-cozolino-ph-d/
Peter Levine- https://www.somaticexperiencing.com
Lisa Dion- https://lisa-dion.com
Ana Gomez- https://www.anagomez.org
Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com/members/cosp-videos-and-handouts/
Dan Siegel: https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance
Marshall Lyles: https://www.marshalllyles.com

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Abby and Kellee explore how they have each evolved and transitioned between theoretical orientations. They discuss how shame can show up when we find a new orientation that brings deeper healing than we have previously provided. Abby and Kellee use IPNB to bring in compassion as they normalize this experience around growing up the field. They conclude that no matter the orientation you use as long you are grounded in it safety will be present, and treatment can begin. 

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Marshall Lyles- https://www.marshalllyles.com
Anna Gomez- https://www.anagomez.org
Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com
Dr. Stephen Porges: https://www.stephenporges.com
Dr. Chaitra Wirta-Leiker: https://www.growbeyondwords.com
Debra Wesselmann & Dr. Ann Potter P-A-C EMDR Model 

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Abby and Kellee explore relationships in the therapy room, drawing inspiration from an unlikely pair in the documentary "My Octopus Teacher". They use the film to reflect on the many parallels of the client-therapist relationship: the struggle with our own agenda, when to take charge, when to sit back, how we all truly have everything within us to heal, and most importantly, how relationships are developed through a felt sense of safety (not with words) in the therapy room. 

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My Octopus Teacher- https://www.netflix.com/title/81045007
Mateo’s Salsa-https://mateossalsa.com
The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino- https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954

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When tragedy strikes in a therapist’s own community the ability to be present and hold space for others is an understandable challenge. Abby and Kellee explore their own thoughts, feelings, and experiences related to the recent tragedy in their community at the Boulder King Soopers Grocery Store. They highlight that safety can feel lost with each mass shooting, and explore how to find safety again, hold it, and offer it back to clients. Abby and Kellee speak to the grief therapists hold for their clients that were impacted, for their clients that were the victims, and for their client that was the shooter. 

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https://www.therebelsproject.org

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How does holding onto the concept of BOTH/AND help us during this global pandemic? For many therapists their caseloads are overflowing as the mental health crisis in the United States unfolds. With overflowing caseloads brings: abundance AND loss, privilege AND exclusion, Resources AND Scarcity. Abby and Kellee explore the many areas of where BOTH/AND show up in the therapist work. If our psychological immune systems are going to sustain, we must hold BOTH/AND in our own lives as well. 

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Robyn Gobbel: https://robyngobbel.com
Supporting Texas: https://feedingtexas.networkforgood.com/projects/101860-feeding-texas-general-support
Shortage of Child Therapists: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-02-pandemic-exacerbating-shortage-child-therapists.html
Moral Injury by Kim Young, LCSW: https://www.instagram.com/dopeblack_socialworker/
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com/members/cosp-videos-and-handouts/

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We hold stories of goodbyes long before we are Earth-side. Goodbyes are very much a part of the therapeutic relationship. Abby and Kellee touch on how goodbyes show up in the therapy space and how goodbyes have shown up in their personal lives. If our bodies hold stories from long ago around goodbyes, are we aware of how these stories are carried into our therapeutic work with clients? Abby and Kellee wonder out loud if goodbyes are actually the richest work we’ll do with any one of our clients.

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Robyn Gobbel: https://robyngobbel.com
Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com

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