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Abby and Kellee explore the struggle of holding space for clients while being sure to hold space for ourselves outside the therapy room. How do we come home at the end of the day and still be able to show up for ourselves and our families? During a time when many therapists are holding higher caseloads and holding higher stress in their own lives Abby and Kellee offer strategies and ideas to use inside and outside sessions that help us lean into balancing and protecting our energy.
Topics Touched on:
Tappers- https://bi-tapp.com
Winnicott- https://www.ukessays.com/essays/psychology/holding-and-containing-winnicott.php
PESI- https://www.pesi.com
Peaceful Tree PDF- email us for a copy
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Abby and Kellee start by briefly summarizing The Power of Discord and discuss how this book inspired them to put out this episode around meaning making. Abby and Kellee explore how meaning making is intertwined in all we do and marvel at meaning making beginning at a molecular level. They use this episode to share more vulnerable parts of themselves to help the listener connect to this idea of meaning making, and the implications it has for therapists and clients in the therapy room.
Topics Touched on:
The Power of Discord: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Discord-Relationships-Building-Resilience/dp/0316488879/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2OXST7GJAFP35&dchild=1&keywords=power+of+discord&qid=1604370399&sprefix=power+of+di%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-1
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com/login/?mepr-unauth-page=1994&redirect_to=%2Fmembers%2Fmy-profile%2F
Deb Dana: https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/deb-dana/
Lisa Dion: https://lisa-dion.com
Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com
Karen Buckwalter podcast: https://attachmenttheoryinaction.podbean.com
Epigenetics: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392256/
Ana Gomez: https://www.anagomez.org
Marshall Lyles: https://www.marshalllyles.com
HYGGE: http://hyggehouse.com/hygge
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3083029/
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We are 7 days from Election Day! In this two part episode series Abby and Kellee move right into where they left off from Part 1 of Political Stress in Therapy Room. Coming from a nervous system perspective Abby and Kellee further explore why naming political stress out loud in the therapy room helps create safety, gives opportunity for rupture, and ultimately bringing repair and thus a deeper connection between therapists and their clients. Abby and Kellee move the conversation to reflective functioning, and wonder together why there are not trainings for therapists to talk about politics with their clients.
Topics Touched on:
Peter Fonagy- https://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychoanalysis/people/peter-fonagy
Debra Wesselmann- http://www.atcnebraska.com/team/deb-wesselmann/
Reflective Functioning- https://www.ucl.ac.uk/psychoanalysis/research/reflective-functioning-questionnaire-rfq
Cited Research Articles:
Van Berkum, J. J. A., Holleman, B., Nieuwland, M., Otten, M., & Murre, J. (2009). Right or wrong? The brain’s fast response to morally objectionable statements. Psychological Science, 20(9), 1092–1099.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9280.2009.02411.x
Resources:
Dr. Chaitra Wirta-Leiker’s - https://www.growbeyondwords.com/books-videos/
VOTE! https://howto.vote
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Election day is just 2 WEEKS away! Clients, therapists, and humans collectively are ALL feeling it. Join Abby and Kellee as they discuss political stress: what it is, why we in the field need to care, and how our responses to election-induced stress and political attitudes influence the nervous system.
Topics Touched on:
Dr Dan Siegel re: River of Mental Wellness: https://www.drdansiegel.com/
Dr Stephen Porges re: states of our ANS: https://www.stephenporges.com/
Bowlby's Stages of Grief: BOWLBY J. Processes of mourning. Int J Psychoanal. 1961 Jul-Oct;42:317-40. PMID: 13872076.
Cited Research Articles:
Kanai, R., Feilden, T., Firth, C., & Rees, G. (2011). Political orientations are correlated with brain structure in young adults. Current Biology, 21(8), 677–680. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2011.03.017
McAdams, D. P., Hanek, K. J., & Dadabo, J. G. (2013). Themes of self-regulation and self-exploration in the life stories of religious American conservatives and liberals. Political Psychology, 34(2), 201–219. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-9221.2012.00933.x
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Is awkwardness actually just another level of vulnerability with your client? If you can get past it have entered into another level of relationship? Abby and Kellee explore the feeling of being awkward, and get curious about when it happens. Is it happening in relationship with another? They discuss dancing with clients in the awkwardness, and wondering out loud about this feeling being connected to attachment. Is it different than shame, anxiety, embarrassment? What does it feel like in the body? The end by encouraging listeners to externalize their own awkwardness.
Topics Touched On:
Tag us in a post showing an image or word that represents your awkward part(s)
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How do we use our breath to create a narrative in our body to let us know we are safe and in turn offer our clients a feeling of safety? Abby and Kellee explore the experience of breathing with a mask on while doing therapy. They become curious about the messages mouth-breathing sends to our bodies, and why our body may be in a state of activation because of this. Abby and Kellee touch on how this activation impacts each of our facial muscles, and why this is important to know during a time when our eyes are almost the only thing that can give cues when we wear masks.
Topics Touched On:
Linda Thai- https://www.traumaresearchfoundation.org/blog/featured-blog-post-linda-thai-shares-mask-wearing-a-moment-to-calm-the-nervous-system-through-intentional-breathing
Deb Dana- https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/deb-dana/
Dr. Dan Siegle- https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance
Lisa Dion- https://lisa-dion.com
Bonnie Badenoch- lending our nerves system diagram: The Heart of Trauma p.g. 72
EMDR- Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing
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Abby and Kellee start exploring the healing powers of EMDR. Is it the bilateral stimulation that creates healing? They move to talking about other approaches like Emotion Focused Therapy and Dialectical Behavior Therapy. Where does healing begin with these approaches. How do we begin creating healing when we’ve just learned these standardized approaches and struggle to stay authentic and present during the learning curve?
Topics Touched On:
Is EMDR 30 Years Old? https://gowiththat.wordpress.com/2020/05/27/many-questions-about-the-mechanism-of-healing-in-emdr/
EMDR- https://www.emdria.org/
DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy)
A.V.O.S Counseling- https://avoscounseling.com/
CBT (Cognitive Behavior Therapy)
SFT (Solution Focused Therapy)
EFT (Emotion Focused Therapy)
Narrative Therapy
Loving holding- https://psychoanalysis.org.uk/our-authors-and-theorists/donald-woods-winnicott
Jan Schaad- https://www.emdria.org/training-provider/jan-schaad-lcsw/
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Abby and Kellee introduce self-care to the listener and promise to make the conversation around this sometimes-dreaded topic different than what is talked about in the “Top 10 Self-Care,” articles most of us read. They begin by exploring where self-care starts (in the therapy room with the clients), and touch on how taking care of our human and therapist selves must change DC (During COVID).
Topics Touched On:
Marshall Lyles- https://www.marshalllyles.com
Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com
Lisa Dion- https://lisa-dion.com
EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing)- https://www.emdria.org
DC- During COVID
BC- Before COVID
AC- After COVID
Taking in 174 Newspapers a day- Bonnie Badenoch."The Heart of Trauma."
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What makes a good supervisor/consultant? What questions should you ask when interviewing one to meet with you? Abby and Kellee answers these questions and more, talk how they met, their experience with a shared consultant, and what they have learned about why getting good supervision/consultation is so important in the field.
Topics Touched On:
Theraplay- https://theraplay.org
Interpersonal Neurobiology (IPNB)- https://www.icc.institute/iccm/what-is-interpersonal-neurobiology-ipnb/
Marshall Lyles- https://www.marshalllyles.com
Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com
Synergetic Play Therapy- https://synergeticplaytherapy.com
Dr. Bruce Perry- https://www.bdperry.com
Dr. Dan Seigel- https://www.drdansiegel.com
Bonnie Badenoch- https://www.nurturingtheheart.com
IFS (Internal Family Systems)- https://ifs-institute.com
EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing): https://www.emdria.org
Krista Reichert- https://www.thebabyfold.org/experts/
Play Therapy: https://www.a4pt.org
Reflective Parenting: Circle of Security® - https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com
What to ask for in a supervisor/Consultation:
What is your model of Supervision?
What certification/credentials do you hold?
How long have you been supervising?
Why do you like supervising?
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As season one kicks off, Kellee and Abby provide digestible and relatable definitions around interpersonal neurobiology. They begin to explore concepts like neurons, mirror neurons, and why clinicians should care about the wisdom of our nervous system.
Topics Touched On:
Interpersonal Neurobiology (IPNB)- https://www.icc.institute/iccm/what-is-interpersonal-neurobiology-ipnb/
Dr. Dan Seigel- https://www.drdansiegel.com
Bonnie Badenoch- https://www.nurturingtheheart.com
Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com
Louis Cozolino- The Neuroscience of Psychotherpay: Healing the Social Brain
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