The Whole Therapist

Abby and Kellee explore how they have each evolved and transitioned between theoretical orientations. They discuss how shame can show up when we find a new orientation that brings deeper healing than we have previously provided. Abby and Kellee use IPNB to bring in compassion as they normalize this experience around growing up the field. They conclude that no matter the orientation you use as long you are grounded in it safety will be present, and treatment can begin. 

Topics Touched on:
Marshall Lyles- https://www.marshalllyles.com
Anna Gomez- https://www.anagomez.org
Robyn Gobbel- https://robyngobbel.com
Dr. Stephen Porges: https://www.stephenporges.com
Dr. Chaitra Wirta-Leiker: https://www.growbeyondwords.com
Debra Wesselmann & Dr. Ann Potter P-A-C EMDR Model 

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Abby and Kellee explore relationships in the therapy room, drawing inspiration from an unlikely pair in the documentary "My Octopus Teacher". They use the film to reflect on the many parallels of the client-therapist relationship: the struggle with our own agenda, when to take charge, when to sit back, how we all truly have everything within us to heal, and most importantly, how relationships are developed through a felt sense of safety (not with words) in the therapy room. 

Topics Touched on:
My Octopus Teacher- https://www.netflix.com/title/81045007
Mateo’s Salsa-https://mateossalsa.com
The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino- https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954

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When tragedy strikes in a therapist’s own community the ability to be present and hold space for others is an understandable challenge. Abby and Kellee explore their own thoughts, feelings, and experiences related to the recent tragedy in their community at the Boulder King Soopers Grocery Store. They highlight that safety can feel lost with each mass shooting, and explore how to find safety again, hold it, and offer it back to clients. Abby and Kellee speak to the grief therapists hold for their clients that were impacted, for their clients that were the victims, and for their client that was the shooter. 

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How does holding onto the concept of BOTH/AND help us during this global pandemic? For many therapists their caseloads are overflowing as the mental health crisis in the United States unfolds. With overflowing caseloads brings: abundance AND loss, privilege AND exclusion, Resources AND Scarcity. Abby and Kellee explore the many areas of where BOTH/AND show up in the therapist work. If our psychological immune systems are going to sustain, we must hold BOTH/AND in our own lives as well. 

Topics Touched on:
Robyn Gobbel: https://robyngobbel.com
Supporting Texas: https://feedingtexas.networkforgood.com/projects/101860-feeding-texas-general-support
Shortage of Child Therapists: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-02-pandemic-exacerbating-shortage-child-therapists.html
Moral Injury by Kim Young, LCSW: https://www.instagram.com/dopeblack_socialworker/
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com/members/cosp-videos-and-handouts/

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We hold stories of goodbyes long before we are Earth-side. Goodbyes are very much a part of the therapeutic relationship. Abby and Kellee touch on how goodbyes show up in the therapy space and how goodbyes have shown up in their personal lives. If our bodies hold stories from long ago around goodbyes, are we aware of how these stories are carried into our therapeutic work with clients? Abby and Kellee wonder out loud if goodbyes are actually the richest work we’ll do with any one of our clients.

Topics Touched on:
Robyn Gobbel: https://robyngobbel.com
Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com

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Abby and Kellee introduce their first guest of the podcast! Norina Asante who is a first-generation Ghanaian-American. Norina gives the listener(s) her lived experience around being a therapist of color in the mental health field, particularly during 2020, and also shares some more personal stories around being a woman of color. Norina describes for the listener(s) what support has been most healing for her, and what she believes therapist can offer to their clients to create healing; deep listening and presence. Norina addresses the work that we must all do to heal our communities. 

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Opportunities for White People in the Fight for Racial Justice
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Seeing White
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If you want to continue this conversation Motivo provides free peer consultation groups on a couple of topics relevant to racial equity: https://www.motivo.community/events?utm_campaign=Racial%20Trauma%20Webinar%20June%202020&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=109425188&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_l49l_4HHW5SxZ2anKRTSzQiAUqJWsB7FOi4j-ivRuLMpQ8WwriNq9JADPJIiBcg3SsVX7Ut_712BHPlZgozv7Y6zwhw&utm_content=109425188&utm_source=hs_email

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Abby and Kellee are back for season 2! There is a bit of a reunion feel to this first episode of season 2. Abby and Kellee fill in the gaps of what they have been up to since taking a break after season 1. They start touching on the topic of transitions and explore this idea that we cannot return to “what was;” We transform in transitions. 

Topics Touched on:
Michael Hamm: https://www.integrativebodyworkeducation.com
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com
Embodying Epigenetics Training: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/embodying-epigenetics-the-story-of-our-cells-tickets-136049097513

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Kellee and Abby come back for an encore in Season 1! They explore the layers of the upcoming holidays, winter moving in, and the pandemic worsening. In this episode they are curious about the mystical powers the cold may have, the need for preparation in a winter season, and the life that is actually present when something appears dead. Stay tuned for the end of this episode as there are some special guests at that end to offer messages of hope, and a remarkable song that carries a soothing tune for the weary therapist's soul.

Topics Touched On:
Winter: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times by Katherine May
The Keep Going Song by Abigail and Shaun Bengson (used with permission): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs-ju_L9pEQ

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Rachel Rossi: https://rachelrossicounseling.com
Lisa Dion: https://lisa-dion.com
Karen Doyle Buckwalter: https://northstarconsultingassociates.com/karen-doyle-buckwalter-lcsw/
Meghan Gentry, LCSW
Deb Wesslemann: http://www.atcnebraska.com/team/deb-wesselmann/
Marshall Lyles : https://www.marshalllyles.com

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Abby and Kellee take listeners on an exciting scientific journey exploring the idea that are genes are not stagnant and unchanging. They spend time helping the listener understand what a gene is, and how epigenetics is related to our genes. They explore conditions that are created in the environment that lead our genes to be expressed or not expressed like: mental health, obesity. physical ailments, disease, etc.  They find hope in their discussion along the way, noting the environment we create for our clients can truly change the genes and therefore future generations to come.

 Topics Touched On:
Moshe Szyf: https://www.ted.com/speakers/moshe_szyf
Bruce H. Lipton, PhD: https://www.brucelipton.com/books/biology-of-belief

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Under healthy conditions implicit and explicit memory are happening at the same time. Abby and Kellee define these terms and identify where these types of memory live within the brain. Several examples are given about each type of memory, and how trauma can impact our implicit and explicit memory. 

Topics Touched On:

Dr. Dan Siegel -  https://www.attachment-and-trauma-treatment-centre-for-healing.com/blogs/understanding-and-working-with-the-window-of-tolerance
Bonnie Badenoch- https://www.nurturingtheheart.com

Question: Can you pick one client and begin to notice what is happening for you implicitly, or what’s happening between the two of you implicitly? 

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