The Within Podcast

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  • #18 The Truth About Hiring Fractional HR (What Most People Miss)

    Hiring a fractional partner can give your business the expertise it needs—without the full-time commitment. But not all fractional support is created equal.

    In this episode, Nicky and Ali dive into the questions every business owner should be asking before hiring a fractional HR partner (or any fractional role). They unpack the importance of aligning business strategy with people strategy, understanding your true growth goals, and getting clear on what you actually need support with—not just what you want off your plate.

    They also discuss:

    Why business strategy and people strategy must work together

    The impact of growth, acquisitions, and scaling on your people
    How to evaluate whether a fractional partner has the right experience
    The importance of culture, communication, and adaptability
    Why self-awareness as a leader is key to hiring the right support

    Whether you’re overwhelmed, scaling fast, or just trying to build smarter—this episode will help you make more intentional decisions when bringing in outside support.

    About the show: 
    Within is a podcast hosted by Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne, of The People Co. It explores what happens when organizations stop chasing surface-level solutions and start doing the real work from within. Each episode unpacks stories of leadership, burnout, growth, culture, and the messiness of being human at work. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or just rethinking how work fits into your life, Within offers a candid and refreshing look at how people-first business gets built.

    Potential Within website: thepeopleco-com/potentialwithin

    Connect with hosts & guests:

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell
    Ali - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/alipayne/

    For more information on The People Co., check out our Webiste: thepeople-co.com

    18 min
  • #17 Wish I would have known Business Math Mattered

    In this special “I Wish I Would Have Known” episode, Nicky Wallace sits down with Jim Roy to talk about a lesson many business leaders learn on the job: how to understand financial statements.

    Jim shares how stepping into leadership forced him to learn how to read balance sheets, interpret numbers, and make sense of financial reports — skills that aren’t always taught in school but are critical when running a business.

    The conversation highlights why understanding your organization’s financial health is essential and why building a strong support system — including trusted advisors and bookkeepers — can make all the difference.

    Key takeaway:

    If you’re running a business, you have to understand the numbers behind it.

    Connect with your Host: 

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell

    Connect with our guest: 

    Jim Roy - 
    Jim, Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-roy-5551644/
    Jim, website https://pwsemployment.com/
    Jim, email: [email protected]

    7 min
  • #16 Hiring Is Still Human: Recruiting Lessons with Jim Roy

    In this episode, Nicky Wallace welcomes Jim Roy o PWS Employment Solutions to talk about the realities of recruiting in today’s workforce.

    With years of experience in staffing and direct placement, Jim shares insights into how the hiring process has changed and what companies can do to create a better experience for candidates.

    From responding to applicants to building intentional hiring processes, this conversation highlights why the human side of recruiting still matters, even in a world filled with automation and technology.

    Nicky and Jim also discuss:

    Why communication with candidates is critical

    The impact of automation in recruiting

    How companies can improve their hiring process

    What makes an organization a “preferred employer”

    The importance of building strong professional networks

    At the end of the day, hiring isn’t just about filling roles — it’s about building relationships and creating a positive experience for the people who walk through your doors.

    Connect with your Host: 

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell

    Connect with our guest: 

    Jim Roy - 
    Jim, Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-roy-5551644/
    Jim, website https://pwsemployment.com/
    Jim, email: [email protected]

    31 min
  • #15 What Epigenetics Can Tell You About Your Health

    What if the symptoms you’re experiencing are your body trying to tell you something?

    In this episode, Nicky Wallace sits down with Integrative Trichologist Ali Sartain to talk about epigenetics — how your lifestyle, environment, stress, and nutrition influence how your genes are expressed.

    Nicky shares parts of her personal health journey and how learning about epigenetics helped her uncover factors that traditional testing wasn’t addressing. Together, they discuss how stress, toxins, processed foods, emotional health, and daily habits can all impact how the body functions.

    The conversation is a reminder that health isn’t just about one symptom or quick fix — it’s about understanding the bigger picture and learning how to support your body over time.

    In this episode we discuss:

    What epigenetics is and how it differs from genetics

    How lifestyle and environment affect gene expression

    The difference between epigenetic testing and bloodwork

    Why stress and emotional health play a role in physical symptoms

    The importance of self-awareness in your health journey

    Why small lifestyle changes can create meaningful shifts

    About Our Guest

    Allie Sartain is an Integrative Trichologist and women’s health advocate. She helps women stop guessing and start understanding their bodies. By blending scalp science, nervous system regulation, and conscious living, Allie teaches that beauty is a reflection of internal balance — and that hair is often just the beginning of the conversation.

    Connect with your Host: 

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell

    Connect with our Guest: 

    Allie - Instagram: @Allie.maneoasis 
    For more information on The People Co., check out our Webiste: thepeople-co.com
    For more informaiton on our Wellbeing event, The Potential Within: thepeople-co.com/potentialwithin

    Interested in epigenetic testing?
    Nicky offers epigenetic testing locally in Des Moines, and at-home testing kits are also available. Testing will also be offered at the upcoming June event.
    email Nicky at [email protected] for more information. 

    36 min
  • #14 I Wish I Would Have Known I’m Not for Everyone

    You’re Not for Everyone and That’s the Point

    In this special edition of Wish I Would Have Known, Nicky shares a deeply personal reflection on identity, feedback, and the cost of trying to become someone you’re not.

    After years in a high-performance sales environment, she found herself chasing results while quietly losing clarity about who she actually was. The feedback kept coming. The expectations kept shifting. And the pressure to mold into a specific version of leadership created more confusion than growth.

    What happens when you are already performing at a high level, but are still asked to change who you are?

    This conversation explores:

    • The difference between development and distortion

    • How high-achievement environments can blur identity
    • Why self-awareness matters more than performance metrics
    • The role environment plays in shaping confidence
    • How tools like Simon Sinek’s Why framework and the Five Love Languages created clarity
    • The tension between inclusion and individual needs
    • Why authenticity is a leadership advantage, not a liability

    The episode also dives into emotional intelligence, personal values, and the realization that trying to be for everyone often leads to losing yourself.

    If you’ve ever walked out of feedback feeling confused instead of clear…

    If you’ve ever adjusted your personality to earn the next opportunity…
    If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re “too much” or “not enough”…

    This conversation is for you. You are not for everyone. And that is not a weakness, it is alignment.

    About the show: 

    Within is a podcast hosted by Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne, of The People Co. It explores what happens when organizations stop chasing surface-level solutions and start doing the real work from within. Each episode unpacks stories of leadership, burnout, growth, culture, and the messiness of being human at work. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or just rethinking how work fits into your life, Within offers a candid and refreshing look at how people-first business gets built.

    Potential Within website: thepeopleco-com/potentialwithin

    Connect with hosts & guests:

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell
    Ali - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/alipayne/
    Heidi- Linkedin- www.linkedin.com/in/heidibuttolph/

    For more information on The People Co., check out our Webiste: thepeople-co.com

    16 min
  • #13 Organizational Audits: The Step Most Companies Skip

    Before You Fix Culture, Do This

    Organizations often come to us asking for a specific solution.

    An engagement survey.

    A wellbeing program.
    A culture initiative.
    A human resource audit.

    And while those may be valid tools, they are rarely the right starting point.

    In this episode of Within, we unpack why organizational audits and culture exercises must come before solutions.

    Before adding more programs, leaders need clarity on three things:

    1. Leadership Alignment

    Are leaders aligned on vision, values, work-life expectations, and development priorities? Does the internal brand match the external brand?

    2. Workforce Demographics and Generational Dynamics

    Do you understand who is in your workforce? How different generations interact? What autonomy, flexibility, and growth mean to them today?

    3. Resource Audit

    Most organizations already offer 50 to 60 resources. The question is not what more to add. It is:

    Do employees know they exist?

    Are they valued?

    Should you stop doing something instead?

    We discuss why compensation and benefits alone no longer define employee value, how flexibility has evolved beyond location, and why psychological safety is not optional for high-performing teams.

    This episode also explores:

    Why smaller organizations often “accidentally” build HR

    The difference between adding initiatives and raising standards

    How to approach listening sessions and engagement surveys strategically

    The importance of challenging legacy thinking

    The intersection of organizational health and individual wellbeing

    Modern talent strategy is not about more programs.

    It is about better alignment.

    Because organizational health and individual health are directly connected.

    If your people are not well, your organization will not be well.

    About the show: 

    Within is a podcast hosted by Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne, of The People Co. It explores what happens when organizations stop chasing surface-level solutions and start doing the real work from within. Each episode unpacks stories of leadership, burnout, growth, culture, and the messiness of being human at work. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or just rethinking how work fits into your life, Within offers a candid and refreshing look at how people-first business gets built.

    Potential Within website: thepeopleco-com/potentialwithin

    Connect with hosts & guests:

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell
    Ali - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/alipayne/
    Heidi- Linkedin- www.linkedin.com/in/heidibuttolph/

    For more information on The People Co., check out our Webiste: thepeople-co.com

    18 min
  • #12 Women, Stress, Hair Loss & the Healing We Don’t Talk About

    In this episode of Within, Nicky Wallace sits down with Allie Sartain, an Integrative Trichologist and women’s health advocate, for an honest conversation about the hidden struggles so many women carry while still trying to show up for their families, businesses, and everyday lives.

    Allie helps women stop guessing and start understanding their bodies. Blending scalp science, nervous system regulation, and conscious living, she teaches that beauty is a reflection of internal balance — and that hair is often just the beginning of the conversation.
    Together, Nicky and Allie talk about what happens when stress is ignored for too long, how symptoms often show up in ways we dismiss, and why healing starts with self-awareness, safe spaces, and small intentional practices that help women reconnect with themselves.
    About Our Guest
    Allie Sartain is an Integrative Trichologist and women’s health advocate. She helps women stop guessing and start understanding their bodies. By blending scalp science, nervous system regulation, and conscious living, Allie teaches that beauty is a reflection of internal balance — and that hair is often just the beginning of the conversation.
    Connect with your Host:
    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/
    Nicky - Instagram: @Freedomtoleadwell
    Connect with our Guest:
    Allie - Instagram: @Allie.maneoasis
    For more information on The People Co., check out our Webiste: thepeople-co.com
    For more information on our Wellbeing event, The Potential Within: thepeople-co.com/potentialwithin

    49 min
  • #11 What My 18-Year-Olds Taught Me About Nutrition

    In this episode of Within's podcast, I Wish I Would Have Known series, Heidi shares a powerful moment: asking her kids at 18 what she could have done better as a mom. Both of them said the same thing—nutrition.

    From busy sports schedules and drive-through dinners to learning about gut health, whole foods, and the differences between male and female fasting, this conversation explores what it means to grow alongside your kids.

    This episode is about awareness, not guilt. And it’s never too late to change your family’s health story.

    If this episode resonates, forward it to someone who needs it.

    About the show: 

    Within is a podcast hosted by Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne, of The People Co. It explores what happens when organizations stop chasing surface-level solutions and start doing the real work from within. Each episode unpacks stories of leadership, burnout, growth, culture, and the messiness of being human at work. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or just rethinking how work fits into your life, Within offers a candid and refreshing look at how people-first business gets built.

    Potential Within website: thepeopleco-com/potentialwithin

    Connect with hosts & guests:

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell
    Ali - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/alipayne/
    Heidi- Linkedin- www.linkedin.com/in/heidibuttolph/

    For more information on The People Co., check out our Webiste: thepeople-co.com

    12 min
  • #10 The Breaking Point That Built a Movement

    In this episode of Within, Nicky shares the deeply personal journey that led to the creation of The Potential Within.

    After the birth of her second daughter, what began as subtle health symptoms quickly escalated into a two-year medical journey filled with chronic pain, misdiagnoses, invasive testing, anxiety, and isolation.

    From being told she was “fine” to preparing for a possible cancer diagnosis, to emergency back surgery, to finally being diagnosed,  this episode unpacks what it feels like when your body is screaming but no one is listening.

    But this isn’t just a health story.

    It’s the origin story of The Potential Within.

    Through functional medicine, epigenetic testing, whole food changes, and radical self-advocacy, Nicky began peeling back the layers of what was really happening in her body.

    What she discovered wasn’t just about healing herself.

    It was about something bigger:

    • The lack of safe spaces to talk about health struggles

    • The gap between reactive and proactive care
    • The intersection of stress, leadership, and chronic illness
    • The need for community around wellbeing

    The Potential Within was created to:

    Educate.
    Provide resources.
    Build community.

    Because no one should feel alone navigating their health journey.

    And because wellbeing isn’t separate from how we lead, work, and live.

    About the show: 

    Within is a podcast hosted by Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne, of The People Co. It explores what happens when organizations stop chasing surface-level solutions and start doing the real work from within. Each episode unpacks stories of leadership, burnout, growth, culture, and the messiness of being human at work. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or just rethinking how work fits into your life, Within offers a candid and refreshing look at how people-first business gets built.

    Potential Within website: thepeopleco-com/potentialwithin

    Connect with hosts & guests:

    Nicky - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ 
    Nicky - Instagram:  @Freedomtoleadwell
    Ali - Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/alipayne/
    Heidi- Linkedin- www.linkedin.com/in/heidibuttolph/

    For more information on The People Co., check out our Webiste: thepeople-co.com

    26 min
  • #9- How Leaders Build Trust, Buy-In, and Better Teams

    SUMMARY

    In this episode of the Within Podcast, host Nicky is joined by Ali and Heidi for a deeper conversation on organizational culture with a specific focus on listening sessions. What begins as a discussion about employee feedback becomes a practical breakdown of how organizations can better understand what their people actually need without relying only on surveys or assessments.

    Ali explains why listening sessions are one of the most powerful and underused tools leaders have. By consistently asking employees for input and capturing feedback in a structured way, organizations gain real time insight into culture, leadership effectiveness, and unmet needs. Heidi expands on this by sharing her experience facilitating listening sessions and how curiosity, thoughtful follow up questions, and psychological safety help employees open up and engage more honestly.

    Nicky brings the conversation into a small business context, sharing examples of how informal listening conversations prevented turnover, uncovered hidden skills, and helped leaders course correct before disengagement became a larger issue. Throughout the discussion, the group reinforces a core message: listening only works if leaders communicate what they heard and take visible action. When done well, listening sessions build trust, empower employees, and move organizations forward.

     

    ABOUT

    Within is a podcast hosted by Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne, founders of The People Co. It explores what happens when organizations stop chasing surface-level solutions and start doing the real work from within. Each episode unpacks stories of leadership, burnout, growth, culture, and the messiness of being human at work. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or just rethinking how work fits into your life, Within offers a candid and refreshing look at how people-first business gets built.

    Connect with them on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ or www.linkedin.com/in/alipayne/ and www.linkedin.com/in/heidibuttolph/

    18 min

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