“Dreams are a doorway to the vast, inclusive world of unconscious images and connections.” So says today’s guest, Dr. Apela Colorado of the Worldwide Indigenous Science Network. Truly a “Woman between the Worlds”, Dr. Colorado promotes an understanding between indigenous and modern world perspectives.

Dr. Colorado starts by setting a ceremonial space using cedar and sacred music and offering an invocation. She describes the way she discovered the Circle of Listening she developed after a chance side trip to the Chartres Cathedral in France. This involves drawing the dreams that are shared, a process called glyphing which is often done by Katrina Arriola who also joined us for the show. Dr. Colorado speaks about how she learned to incorporate multiple ancestral lineages and encourages us to say “a dream came to me” rather than “I had a dream.” Katrina speaks about the importance of the communal experience in dream-sharing.

After the break, we two calls. The first is from Ryan from Philadelphia who had attended one of the Chartres Dreamwork Events and describes how several of the participants had strikingly parallel dreams… all about him! The second call comes from Ellen of Santa Cruz who shares a dream featuring a monkey-like spirit and an old friend from Japan.

BIO: Apela Colorado Ph.D., of Oneida-Gaul ancestry, has dedicated her life’s work to bridge Western thought and indigenous worldviews. In 1989, she founded the Worldwide Indigenous Science Network which aims to (1) foster the revitalization, growth, and worldwide exchange of traditional knowledge, (2) safeguard the lives and work of the world’s endangered indigenous culture practitioners, and (3) develop an interface with Western science. She has authored numerous scholarly articles on Indigenous Science and recently published, “Woman Between the Worlds: A Call to Your Ancestral and Indigenous Wisdom”

Find our guest at: WISN.org, FB: @apela.colorado and @WorldwideIndigenousScienceNetwork

This show, episode number 301, was recorded during a live broadcast on March 8, 2025 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for the answering the phones.

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