Donnovan brings on hockey analyst and writer Andrew Berkshire, who sparked a controversy with his comments on Edmonton Oilers forward Zach Hyman hitting the 50 goal mark for the first time in his career. What prompted those remarks? Were they fair? Donnovan and Andrew debate the treatment of Hyman's accomplishment across different levels of media, and discuss at a larger level what it means to make it in the NHL.

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