This episode brings producer Joslyne into the hot seat for a conversation that covers heroes, haunted door latches and the ethics of checking out from the news entirely.

They dig into bucket questions about dreams quietly let go, why ugly people deserve more screen time, and whether Mac Miller and Kurt Vonnegut belong in the same breath. Joslyne reveals she's too scared of the dark to finish her Wicca initiation. Zach lands somewhere between reframing his comedy goals and seriously considering a move to the middle of nowhere.

Also: the Amish are selfish, ghosts probably aren't mad about candle scent, and someone should really start a Patreon.

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