A visit to the emergency room illuminates what resilience means through personal experience.

What happens when a European demographic research project asks a Berlin podcaster from the United States to explore their findings? Find out in episode four of Certain Futures.

The final episode in this series begins with host Daniel Stern visiting the emergency room. He's inspired to reconsider the meaning of resilience. Reflecting on the journey of Certain Futures unveils a few more interesting twists and interesting complexities. Returning to conversations from previous episodes, Dan finds a hopeful theme for looking at today and into our Future.

Episode Four, "They're Our Future" includes new clips from:

• Prof. Jakub Bijak
• Dr. Miguel Sánchez-Romero
• Prof. Anna Rotkirch
• Prof. Arnstein Aassve
• Prof. Letizia Mencarini

This limited-series podcast is produced by Radio Spaetkauf in collaboration with the FutuRes Project .

The FutuRes Project brings demographers and economists together with policymakers to advance what we know and how we plan for Europe's ageing society. You can find all the FutuRes research and other resources for understanding ageing and resilience in Europe on their website: https://futu-res.eu/ or also follow FutuRes on Linkedin.

Research Links: Europe's challenges of population ageing: Are migration and automation possible solutions?

Additional Credits and links: Certain Futures Music by: Partefacts - Lani Bagley, Christa Belle Walley and Craig Schuftan Certain Futures Artwork by: Andy El Kanani www.andyelkanani.com Host and Producer of Certain Futures: [Daniel Stern](https://www.sterndaniel.com) Additional Editing by Jeff Emtman jeffemtman.com Medical Care by Josephs Krankenhaus

The FutuRes project is funded by the European Union (Grant Agreement # 101094741).