Reverend Fergus Butler-Gallie is a writer, priest, and current Vicar of Charlbury in Oxfordshire. Educated at Oxford and Cambridge, he has ministered in parishes in Liverpool and Central London, and spent time living and working in the Czech Republic and South Africa. Fergus is the author of Touching Cloth—a Times and Mail on Sunday Book of the Year—as well as Priests de la Résistance! (a Spectator Book of the Year) and, most recently, Twelve Churches: An Unlikely History of the Buildings that Made Christianity. He also writes widely for publications including The Times, The Independent, The Guardian, The Church Times, The Critic and The Fence, and won the 2022 P.G. Wodehouse Essay Prize.

In this episode, Fergus and I think out loud about his new book, exploring the paradoxes at the heart of Christianity through the stories of twelve remarkable churches. We discuss how events such as the Salem Witch Trials reveal the complexities of faith, the role of power in Christianity exemplified by Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, and the Church’s central part in the abolition of slavery. Fergus also reflects on how managerialism has almost—but not yet—killed the Church of England, why it must be rooted out, and how he himself came to faith after a period of teenage unbelief and much, much more.

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• The Guardian

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Nathan Pinkoski is a senior fellow at the Centre for Renewing America. He has written for First Things, Compact, Perspectives on Political Science, and The Claremont Review of Books. His forthcoming book, Actually Existing Post-Liberalism, explores the transformation of the West since 1989 and is due to be published by Basic Books. He is also translating Éric Zemmour’s bestseller The Suicide of the French into English for Encounter Books.

In this episode, Nathan and I think out loud about Nathan's academic journey, why Alasdair MacIntyre was one of the most important philosophers of our age, why modern moral discourse is so fragmented, how technological change significantly influences political discourse and how it has reshaped humanity itself, why one of the most taboo books of the 20th century is now back in print, why we need a common moral language for societal unity, why it is abundantly clear that multiculturalism presents challenges to national identity and cohesion, why the future of political philosophy may require abandoning liberal categories, how Nathan lost trust in society's key institutions, what comes next after the collapse of political consensus and much, much more.

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• Nathan’s Substack
• Compact
• First Things
• X

About Thinking Class:
Thinking Class is a long-form interview podcast exploring the cultural, historical, and moral forces shaping England, Britain, and the wider Western world.

Hosted by John Gillam, the show features serious conversations with historians, academics, and independent thinkers.

Thinking Class is concerned with discovering long-term patterns over headlines and hot-takes. Expect historically-grounded analysis on matters of national character, institutions, demography, belief, and political legitimacy.

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This is a compilation episode about the state of boys and families in Britain, the ideological crusades that have undermined them, why the loss of faith and hyper-liberalism are to blame for this, and what may be required to save our individual and collective souls.

You can expect to hear from Ed Davies of the Centre for Social Justice, Lois McClatchie Miller from the Alliance for Defending Freedom, Connor Tomlinson of Courage Media, Neema Parvini a.k.a. Academic Agent, the philosophers Carl Trueman and Ryszard Legutko, Father Benedict Kiely, Philip Pilkington and Bijan Omrani.

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Momus Najmi is a writer, cultural commentator and history enthusiast. He is the author of the Substack, "The World Of Momus" and owner of the popular YouTube channel of the same name.

In this episode, Momus and I think out loud about the manifold economic, societal and cultural issues experienced in Britain today, whether the monarchy needs to be reformed, including the need for a change in personnel, why the 2029 election will not see a credible government form, why each one of us should focus onbuilding physical, cultural and intellectual strongholds in the areas in which we live, why the 2034 general election might be the year in which we see true change in the country, why Britain needs to undergo a period of suffering between now and then so that it can find its way again, the importance of finding Christianity, our thoughts on the Catholic church, whether podcasting is worth it, and Momus' change of approach to his public profile, and much much more.

To see my previous conversation with Momus in February 2024 follow click here. 

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Father Benedict Kiely is a priest of the Anglican Ordinariate of the Roman Catholic Church. He is the founder of nasarean.org, a charity that supports and advocates for persecuted Christians across the Middle East and beyond, offering practical aid to displaced families and small businesses.

In this conversation, Father Benedict and I think out loud about the persecution of Christians in the middle East and Nigeria, the day-to-day struggles faced by Christians in predominantly Muslim countries, the nature of Christian persecution in Britain and what's behind it, why the media pays little attention to the ongoing atrocities against Christians, the future of Christian and Islamic relations in Britain and whether adherents of the two faiths can coexist peacefully, whether it is possible to be a Christian and patriot, the impact of aggressive secularism on political life, the importance of hope and the role of faith in overcoming despair, and much, much more.

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• Nasarean.org

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Tom Jones is a writer and a councillor for Scotton and Lower Wensleydale, North Yorkshire. He is the author of the Substack, The Potemkin Village Idiot and has written for The Spectator, The Critic, Conservative, Home, CapX, UnHerd and The Guardian.

In this conversation, Tom and I think out loud about the dramatic shift in British political discourse since 2024, why public trust in institutions is at an all-time low, and what it means to say Britain is now operating under an “anarcho-tyranny”, why there is a growing public scepticism toward the judicial system and the implications of this, why Britain’s political culture is beginning to resemble that of South Africa, and what the consequences of mass immigration and communal politics may be for national cohesion, the Conservative Party’s identity crisis, the deep structural problems facing the British state, and why he believes radical political reform is not only necessary, but urgent, and much, much more. 

If you missed our first conversation from February 2024, I’d recommend going back and giving that a listen too.

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Ryszard Legutko is a Polish scientist and politician, professor of philosophy, publicist, author of over twenty books on socio-political topics, translator and commentator of Plato’s works. He specializes in political and social philosophy, ancient philosophy and the history of philosophy. Ryszard has served as a member of the European Parliament since 2009 and is Chairman of the European Conservatives and Reformists Group in the European Parliament.

In this conversation, Ryszard and I think out loud about revolutionary movements of today, why the fall of communism did not lead to a clear victory for liberalism, why sexuality has been politicised and is central to revolutionary movements along with sexuality, why strong family structures are seen as threats to political revolutions, how conservative media has suffered state persecution in Poland, how the liberal establishment has historically accommodated communist ideologies, why eprsonal growth often involves challenging long-held beliefs and why the current political climate in Poland reflects a generational battle and much, much more.

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Mark Walsh is a teacher of embodiment, trauma, education, and resilience. He is the author of Embodiment: Working with the Body in Training and Coaching and Embodied Meditation. Mark also hosts the Embodiment Podcast, which has been downloaded over two million times, and was the founder of the Embodiment Conference, which brought together over 1,000 teachers and half a million participants.

In this conversation, Mark and I think out loud about the importance of embodiment, connection, and community in modern life, how modernity leads us to disembodied lives, why we should reconnect to our spiritual nature, why we need to foster healthy relationships to thrive, how cultural dislocation threatens Western societies, what the challenges faced by men are today, the impact of modernity's cultural disconnection from nature and community, the practical steps people can take to reconnect with life, the importance of physicality, nature, what the role of men in society is and much much more.

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Ed Davies is Policy Director of the Centre of Social Justice. A veteran of health policy, he has a storied career as a journalist, editor, and policy wonk and has worked for several UK government cabinet ministers during his career. His work has focused on the role of relationships in making us truly happy and healthy.

In this conversation, Ed and I think out loud about the issues surrounding family dynamics and breakdown in the UK, the alarming statistics regarding family structures, the rise of fatherless households and the decline of marriage, what cultural shifts have influenced family formation or increasing lack thereof, why family formation and well-being should be prioritised over GDP, the concerning state of boys and young men in society and why they are struggling, the impact of technology on relationships, the need for male-only spaces to nurture boys and men's masculinity, the reasons behind and challenges of worklessness, the role of romantic relationships in employment, the need for reform in the criminal justice system, the housing crisis and much, much more.

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• CSJ Website

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Philip Pilkington is a macroeconomist and investment professional. He is the author of a book on economic theory, The Reformation in Economics and his most recent book is The Collapse Of Global Liberalism: And The Emergence Of A Post-Liberal World Order. Philip also runs the Macrocosm substack. Philip regularly writes for a variety of outlets, including Unherd, The Spectator, The Telegraph, The New York Post, Moneyweek, First Things, American Affairs, The Critic, and Postliberal Order. He is co-host of the popular geopolitics podcast Multipolarity. Philip also has a significant following on X @philippilk.

In this conversation, Philip and I think out loud about why global liberalism as ruling ideology has collapsed globally, why modern liberalism might have been a phenomenon of the baby boomers, the contradictions in American democracy, why many of the social issues we see today are due to what Philip calls 'hyper-liberalism', why humans resist being seen as economic widgets alone and why the distance between liberal philosophers and those deemed 'far-right' are smaller than you think, why it is liberals and not nationalists that are war-mongers, how the Russia-Ukraine war demonstrates the impotence of the standard-bearers of global liberalism in the West, why the great man theory is true, and much much more.

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• Unherd
• Substack

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